RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 11, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 11, 2013 The pictures of Colwick highlight what a large complex this was and also as a secondary point, its loss demonstrates how savagely Nottingham was hit by the closures of the 50s and 60s. Was there any other large city that lost such a high proportion of its rail network as Nottingham did, including 2 of the 3 main routes to London? ROB I thought that Nottingham still had two routes to London - the last time I went there I travelled north from St Pancras and came back via Kings Cross (because at my time of departure it was quicker). Admittedly no through trains to KX but some good connecting services. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orinoco Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 I think at one time Nottingham had a through coach via the GN&LNW Joint line to Euston too. That's 4 London termini in total - not bad for a railway backwater 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted June 11, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 11, 2013 (edited) This afternoon's photos include Rugby, Grantham and one of the coaling tower at Colwick. Rugby 4F goods c1952 Scan-130526-0002 Rugby 3MTT le c1952 Scan-130526-0003 Rugby Rebuilt Royal Scot ex pass c1952Scan-130526-0004 Rugby Class 5 ex pass c1952 Scan-130526-0005 Grantham J6 down ex pass c1950 Scan-130526-0035 Grantham A3 down ex pass c1950 Scan-130526-0038 Grantham A3 down ex pass c1950 Scan-130526-0039 Colwick B1 A5 and coaler c1955 Scan-130526-0070 David Edited June 11, 2013 by DaveF 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob F Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 I thought that Nottingham still had two routes to London - the last time I went there I travelled north from St Pancras and came back via Kings Cross (because at my time of departure it was quicker). Admittedly no through trains to KX but some good connecting services. The accepted meaning of through route is a direct service, to me at least. By the standard of the Kings Cross example you could also claim a route with a change at Derby or Tamworth or Birmingham or even Reading (off the one a day Cross-Country service to Bournemouth). Nottingham lost the GCR and the MR route via Melton which I think is unprecedented for any other city (we can get into arcane discussions about Wells and St Andrews but you know what I mean ). I don't know when the last direct service to Kings Cross ran. I know the GNR ran some from London Road Low Level but I don't know if the LNER ever did after the grouping. Maybe the GNR stopped when the GCR and Victoria opened, over to someone with more knowledge than me! ROB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(W) Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 "Rugby 3MTT le c1952 Scan-130526-0003" Sorry, I'm not nit-picking - honestly, but the little Ivatts were classed by BR as 2MT, not 3MT. Although according to the LMS and very early BR, they were 2P. Cheers, BR(W). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 There was still a through morning service to KX via Grantham well into the 1950s. Coaches were attached at Grantham to a London-bound train. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted June 11, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2013 (edited) This evening starts with the last two photos from Volume 10, at Boston. We then move on to Volume 8. As far as I know Volumes 8 and 9 were Dad's favourite prints. A few of the images have already been seen in this thread and elsewhere, but generally the prints from this Volume are better quality and/or are less heavily cropped, so I will use them again, I hope no one minds. The vast majority have not been seen before. Volume 8 starts with some colour prints made in 1960, according to the dates on the back of them, they are from old colour slides. All the slides had been taken on Ilford slide film, in those days it was known as "Ilford Colour". Most were taken with a Retina 1a camera with a f3.5 Xenar lens. On a very sunny summer day the exposure was 1/250 at f4 according to Dad's notes. In less good light he might be able to get 1/100 at 3.5. A far cry from today's digital cameras. He had moved these prints from earlier albums, which explains some of the gaps in the image numbers in earlier volumes. Boston J69 68581 c1955 Scan-130526-0071 Boston J52 68765 c1955 Scan-130526-0072 Lewes 6PUL Eastbourne to Victoria Oct 50 JVol4035 Grantham A3 60053 Sansovino l e c1950 JVol4036 Barkston A4 60010 Dominion of Canade up Flying Scotsman Aug 55 JVol4037 Barkston A3 60063 Isinglass ex pass Necastle to Kings Cross Aug 55 JVol4038 Barkston A4 down ex pass June 1953 JVol4039 Barkston A2 up ex pass June 53 JVol4040 David Edited June 11, 2013 by DaveF 22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted June 11, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 11, 2013 "Rugby 3MTT le c1952 Scan-130526-0003" Sorry, I'm not nit-picking - honestly, but the little Ivatts were classed by BR as 2MT, not 3MT. Although according to the LMS and very early BR, they were 2P. Cheers, BR(W). Thanks very much for this. I have no idea why I put "3" not "2", I really do know they were class 2. It must be old age creeping up on me. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted June 11, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 11, 2013 Interesting to see some of the LNERs bewildering array of 0-6-0Ts e.g. 130526-0071 & 0072 I also notice at by the time the coloured shots were taken the coaches behind the pacifics were in a uniform livery. Keith 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted June 11, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 11, 2013 (edited) I think at one time Nottingham had a through coach via the GN&LNW Joint line to Euston too. That's 4 London termini in total - not bad for a railway backwater If it was in LNWR days it was before 1921 - in my (reprinted by OPC in 1981) timetable for that October the through coach is shown as Melton Mowbray to Euston and back. Now I just need an earlier timetable! The service from London Road Low Level (the station used then) was quite sparse, There were 5 trains to and from Northampton each day plus one short working from Melton Mowbray to Nottingham, but no apparent return working. There appear to be no Sunday trains. Edited for spelling again. David Edited June 11, 2013 by DaveF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted June 11, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 11, 2013 Hi David and all All the fuss over the experimental convertible version of the V2, with its hood down, in Scan-130526-0069, what about those 16 ton minerals, left to right we have a Diagram 108, no brake push rods visible so has Morton brake on the opposite side, a Diagram 103 with no top door, a Diagram 105 riveted body, and a Diagram 106 still in MoS bauxite livery. The last three all have bottom doors and double brake. What a wonderful small collection of different 16 tonners. Note that they are not rust colour, this was a sixties livery often modelled incorrectly by those who like the 1950s. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 I recall someone asking for clarification of which direction was "up" on the ex-LMS lines in Nottm. Hope this diagram helps a little. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JCL Posted June 12, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 12, 2013 Hi there, thanks so much for putting up the photos from my old neck of the woods - Skegness -> Boston. There's not that many photos about, so it's always great seeing some more. cheers Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted June 12, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 12, 2013 Some more colour ones to start with this afternoon then back to monochrome. As yesterday the colour ones are 1960 prints from Dad's slides. Linby GC O1 down goods Nov 52 JVol4041 Stanton Gate 4F 44119 down goods July 52 JVol4042 Madeley Coronation class 46254 City of Stoke on Trent down Royal Scot June 60 JVol4043 Madeley D227 down ex pass Euston to Liverpool June 60 JVol4044 Saltash Bridge plus Dad's A40 Aug 60 JVol4045 Saltash Bridge Warship up goodsAug 60 JVol4046 York A1 down ex pass 1953 JVol4047 Trent 8F 48611 down goods c1953 JVol4048 David 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSutt Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Some more colour ones to start with this afternoon then back to monochrome. As yesterday the colour ones are 1960 prints from Dad's slides. Linby GC O1 down goods Nov 52 JVol4041.jpg Linby GC O1 down goods Nov 52 JVol4041 Stanton Gate 4F 44119 down goods July 52 JVol4042.jpg Stanton Gate 4F 44119 down goods July 52 JVol4042 Madeley Coronation class 46254 City of Stoke on Trent down Royal Scot June 60 JVol4043.jpg Madeley Coronation class 46254 City of Stoke on Trent down Royal Scot June 60 JVol4043 Madeley D227 down ex pass Euston to Liverpool June 60 JVol4044.jpg Madeley D227 down ex pass Euston to Liverpool June 60 JVol4044 Saltash Bridge plus Dad's A40 Aug 60 JVol4045.jpg Saltash Bridge plus Dad's A40 Aug 60 JVol4045 Saltash Bridge Warship up goodsAug 60 JVol4046.jpg Saltash Bridge Warship up goodsAug 60 JVol4046 York A1 down ex pass 1953 JVol4047.jpg York A1 down ex pass 1953 JVol4047 Trent 8F 48611 down goods c1953 JVol4048.jpg Trent 8F 48611 down goods c1953 JVol4048 David Thanks for posting images of Saltash Passage and the St. Budeaux side of the Royal Albert Bridge. Ahh, takes me back to my youth. Note the start of the Tamar Road Bridge on the Saltash shore. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Grafarman Posted June 12, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 12, 2013 Great shot of D227, later to be named 'Parthia' (1962) and renumbered 40027 - was about a year old in this pic and looking pretty grubby at that! Good to see the colour pics coming out now... David 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 My dad had a red Austin A40 too. Can still remember the reg - 471 CRC 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted June 12, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 12, 2013 (edited) Second batch for today, from all over place. There are no more colour ones in Dad's print albums, sorry about that. For those who crave colour photos then look below. However, there are over 8,000 of Dad's and my color slides on flickr at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidwf2009/ If you go to this link and then click on "Sets" you will be taken to the list of my sets of photos, which are generally arranged geographically. There are about 177 sets,the titles are spread over two pages on flickr almost all of them are railways from 1947 to the present day, black and white and colour . All the photos in this thread are also on flickr. Now for the photos. Nottingham Victoria K2 61773 shunting parcels vans Jan 53 JVol4108 Nottingham Victoria B17 l e and O1 down goods c1954 JVol4231 Chester (probably) 51xx 5176 ecs c1952 JVol4270 Trowell Junction flatbottom track and bullhead check rail c1952 JVol4271 Has anyone ever modelled this? Wollaton Switch sign c1952 JVol4274 Millers Dale LNWR 2-4-2T Buxton to Milers Dale c1952 JVol4277 Nottingham Victoria J6 down pw train c1952 JVol4281 Barkston V2 up ex pass c1952 JVol4282 David Edited June 14, 2013 by DaveF 21 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Like the first one at "The Vic" especially tonight David. The mixed flatbottom/bullhead is not quite all it seems as the bullhead is just a checkrail - the other running rail will be flatbottom. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted June 12, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 12, 2013 Hi David JVol4271 is not mixed track. Look carefully there is a second shinny rail behind the dull bullhead rail. The bullhead is a check rail. Even today bullhead is used as the check rail on flatbottom running lines but not points. see http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/63134-unusual-checkrailed-track/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted June 12, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 12, 2013 Like the first one at "The Vic" especially tonight David. The mixed flatbottom/bullhead is not quite all it seems as the bullhead is just a checkrail - the other running rail will be flatbottom. Hi David JVol4271 is not mixed track. Look carefully there is a second shinny rail behind the dull bullhead rail. The bullhead is a check rail. Even today bullhead is used as the check rail on flatbottom running lines but not points. see http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/63134-unusual-checkrailed-track/ Many thanks for pointing this out, I can see it now. Caption amended David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Grafarman Posted June 12, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 12, 2013 Second batch for today, from all over place. There are no more colour ones in Dad's print albums, sorry about that. For those who crave colour photos then look below. However, there are over 8,000 of Dad's and my color slides on flickr at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidwf2009/ If you go to this link and then click on "Sets" you will be taken to the list of my sets of photos, which are generally arranged geographically. There are about 177 sets,the titles are spread over two pages on flickr almost all of them are railways from 1947 to the present day, black and white and colour . All the photos in this thread are also on flickr. David Many thanks for this link David; far far far too many pics to pass comment on each one but be assured they are hugely appreciated! Keep 'em comin' on here too... David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Peter Beckett Posted June 12, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 12, 2013 Dave, Is that you sitting in the back of the A40? Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted June 13, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 13, 2013 Dave, Is that you sitting in the back of the A40? Peter No, it's Mum. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45568 Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 No, it's Mum. David Look how clean the cars are!! Period modellers please note! People who had motor vehicles at this time looked after them very well, Dad's car was washed every Saturday,(how do I know this?). Dad bought an A40 "Farina" Mk.II in 1962, first car I drove, (12 at the time!!!). Cheers, Peter C. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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