RMweb Gold big jim Posted July 7, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 7, 2013 and back up north again today 6c37 from chirk, 56105 and 56087 in multi today first job was fuel them as west coast worked it in last night and dont know how to use the fueller (photo edited/cropped down to just show the locos, not any infrastructure! and away, first stop bushbury jn for a few minutes next stop was winsford jn, sat on the slow while a few passenger trains passed, then on to tebay, another shot of tebay loop (i seem to frequent it quite a lot), and another combo of locos! and on to carlisle, almost at journeys end, just about to run round to propel back into the wood yard 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 something a bit different and the first ews 66's i've driven too Jim, when you have two locos on a train are they both under power, or are you dragging the trailing one? I'm assuming we don;t have DPU in the UK, and the wagons don't have MU so the second loco is just a dead weight and there to save on running round? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted July 8, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 8, 2013 Jim, when you have two locos on a train are they both under power, or are you dragging the trailing one? I'm assuming we don;t have DPU in the UK, and the wagons don't have MU so the second loco is just a dead weight and there to save on running round? What we used to call in BR days 'ANR' = Attached Not Required, i.e. simply a deadweight on the back of the train and basically done to save running round the operators having seemingly found it cheaper to employ a million quid loco to do not much instead of shunters at a few thens of thousands per annum. Assistance on the rear is still only permitted where authorised in the relevant Sectional appendix etc and requires a Driver to man the rear loco.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted July 8, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 8, 2013 What we used to call in BR days 'ANR' = Attached Not Required, i.e. simply a deadweight on the back of the train and basically done to save running round the operators having seemingly found it cheaper to employ a million quid loco to do not much instead of shunters at a few thens of thousands per annum. Assistance on the rear is still only permitted where authorised in the relevant Sectional appendix etc and requires a Driver to man the rear loco.. ... But I assume very useful in a possesion when there's a train on one line & the other line's being worked on, so no actual way to get loco from one end to another? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted July 8, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 8, 2013 aslo to add to what mike has written, yes the rear loco is shut down, if it was running then it would require a 2nd driver as class 66s don't have automatic fire fighting equipment fitted so the lead driver would not know if it was on fire! its not just about supposedly saving money, there are of course operational reasons for top and tail, no run round facilities, possession instructions etc RHTT wagons have multi cables and control air pipes fitted so both locos can be running, similarly things like chltern's silver sets running with dvts can remotly operate the fire equipment on the 67s, if they use non fire equipment 67s then they have to be manned too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Interesting read there Jim!! so only few locos are fitted with automatic fire systems... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druid Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Double headed 56s through Leyland today 15.38 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ews60002 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Guess who I saw flying through Sandbach on his way to Carlisle double heading a 56 duo of 56087 and 56105 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted July 14, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 14, 2013 nice! enjoyed working through manchester again today, been a while since i last did it with fastline, a few changes en route, no mayfield parcels station and lots of new flats around ordsall lane not to mention OHLE there too was running over 3 hours late but still lots of photographers about on the diversionary route passed a scorched class 70 near salford crescent being dragged by a 66, apparently it spontaniously combusted near hindley on an engineers train, has the fire brigade attend apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted July 14, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 14, 2013 passed a scorched class 70 near salford crescent being dragged by a 66, apparently it spontaniously combusted near hindley on an engineers train, has the fire brigade attend apparently 70005 is the casualty. http://www.flickr.com/photos/61693261@N03/9286766694 http://www.flickr.com/photos/httpwwwpeakdaleworkscom/9283991615/in/photostream/ Cheers, Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornbyandbf3fan Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 70005 is the casualty. http://www.flickr.com/photos/61693261@N03/9286766694 http://www.flickr.com/photos/httpwwwpeakdaleworkscom/9283991615/in/photostream/ Cheers, Mick I don't think the photographer is fond of the class 70's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Richard E Posted July 15, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 15, 2013 (edited) Picture here also of the same self igniting class 70 http://www.flickr.com/photos/skiddaw_d3/9285706921/ Edited July 15, 2013 by Richard E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted July 15, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 15, 2013 (edited) here are a few pics from the last couple of days, unfortunatly today was my only day on the logs this week (so far), i was hoping to get to take it along the cheshire lines through altrincham but i've got a coupel of days of engineers trains to work instead heading north last night, 56087 leading a dead in train 56105, 087 was only running on 4 traction motors but performed effortlessly, the northbound run was via stockport, manchester and bolton and onwards to preston, pretty much first stop was carnforth to allow a pendo past and back south this morning, ready to depart kingmoor with the 56s running in multi this time after picking up a conductor again at preston it was on to manchester, stopped at bolton to allow a few passenger trains past and on to deansgate where the conductor and i got off and the train continued on to chirk via stockport, altrincham and northwich, i seriously considered jumping onto a tram to alty to get a few shots of it coming through but decided to go to see what was left in modelzone on deansgate instead Edited July 15, 2013 by big jim 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swifty11 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Hi Jim, do you know what time the logs run through Sandbach station south/northbound? Thanks very much Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted July 15, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 15, 2013 they dont run southbound but the northbound is about 23:15, have a look on real time trains, it should be on there 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swifty11 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 they dont run southbound but the northbound is about 23:15, have a look on real time trains, it should be on there Thanks, where do they run via northbound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted July 15, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 15, 2013 they run a bit closer to you than sandbach actually, they go stockport, altrincham, northwich, chester may be worth getting a lift to northwich for a few pics, one going over the viaduct over the weaver would be good or climbing up to cuddington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11B Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Whilst waiting for this today at Carnforth I do believe Jim sneaked up behind be...... Not the best photo in the world...... but Ian 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swifty11 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 they run a bit closer to you than sandbach actually, they go stockport, altrincham, northwich, chester may be worth getting a lift to northwich for a few pics, one going over the viaduct over the weaver would be good or climbing up to cuddington I've got family round there so... My last experience of Chester was bad, I'll find out anymore info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike tugsandsheds Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Excellent pictures Jim. hank you for confirming that I wasn't seeing things ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianwales Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Hi Sorry to hijack Jim's thread, but, thought some may be interested, 47727 just arrived in Baglan to pick up the logs. Ian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted July 16, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 16, 2013 did something different today, should have been a nice little out and back light engine job but as with most things it never goes smoothly started the day at 04:00 in basford hall to collect my train for the day, should have been ready to roll but when i got there the train was on 1 road and the locos were on 19 road so i had to, with the help of the freightliner shunter put them top and tail on the train 66846 one end 66849 the other end the train was a network rail test train to stoke, set off about 30 late due to a bit of confusion, it was an "X" classification which is an exceptional load, in this case out of gauge so had to keep to certain routes and had to obey local rules such as it being unable to use certain platforms and lines, add to that it was over length (officially) which meant i could only use platform 6 in crewe it took a good bit of work by the signaller to get us in and out without impacting too much on other traffic ready for the off, 405 meters(1325 ft) of train so off on my way, into crewe, changed ends and on my way to granville sidings in stoke, all good, got the train in with help of the PICOS (person in charge of sidings) as they were under T4 possession then it was doscovered the train was the wrong way round, a bit of discussion went on and it was decided to take it out and turn it, basically run back to crewe, into basford hall, back out to gresty bridge, into crewe again and back to stoke which is what i did, unfortunatly it took a few hours to get a new path in here is the train waiting to leave the sidings from here it was out towards stoke, drop behind the signal at cockshutte, change ends again and onward to crewe to do the turn as described above, again as we could only use 6 at crewe it caused the signaller a few headaches with other traffic routed round me but i got on my way back to stoke, time for a couple of pics as i could see things moving around me! into the sidings, propelled the train back up the "ore fulls" siding which is basically the old road into shelton steel works, another siding to colour in red in on my quail map! once propelled in i chopped off the south end loco and moved it onto the departure road before walking up to the north and setting the train back into the sidings where we split it into 2 sections for the various tests/work sites here is the north end loco on the "ore full" line hard to believe there used to be a steelworks here! end of the line! it was then a case if uncoupling the loco and recoupling it to the other one and heading back to crewe, at crewe i then resplit the locos in the goods loop and another driver took 849 to chirk to replace the 56s on the logs and i returned to basford hall with 846 all split and ready to go their separate ways back into basford hall and headed home, got a quick pic of this while walking back to the van in all a good day, despite what should have been an 8 hour day turning into considarably more (lots of "hidden" paperwork for control), again something different and interesting to do, the on site network rail and amey guys were brilliant, very professional as can be expected, they even ran me out to morrisons on festival park for provisions when it looked like i was there for the duration! by my calculations i changed ends a number of times and walked the length of the train 10 times to do so, a total of just over 2.5 miles walked just changing ends!! looking forward to thursday when i go back and pick it up again to return to crewe day off tomorrow though, layout time! 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swifty11 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Lovely pics Jim! Do you know when the 56s wull return to logs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 More super photos Jim!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianwales Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Hi Jim and all I didn't have my camera this morning so these were both taken using my Blackeberry, 47727 on the Baglan Log empties then returning L/E past Port Talbot Ian 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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