Iain Popplewell Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 (edited) I was at my dads last week and pulled this out of the ceiling, I must have been 15 when I built it and being Australian and 15 I didn;t even know what thatch was but spent my May holidays glueing strands of wool to the roof and covering it with flock because Allan Downes told me to! IMAG0729 (1024x579).jpg Lovely cottage Monkeysarefun you've really caught that "Downes" cottage character.Brilliant stuff. However I must ask how the cottage became embedded in your fathers ceiling? I hope you didn't throw your model at it in disgust. If you ask me it's every bit as good as the stuff Allan was turning out in the early seventies.He inspired me too, I even built one of his windmills, although in my case I rather regret now throwing it at the ceiling. Edited October 10, 2014 by iainp 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalfytich Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Lovely cottage Monkeysarefun you've really caught that "Downes" cottage character.Brilliant stuff. However I must ask how the cottage became embedded in your fathers ceiling? I hope you didn't throw your model at it in disgust. If you ask me it's every bit as good as the stuff Allan was turning out in the early seventies.He inspired me too, I even built one of his windmills although in my case I rather regret now throwing it at the ceiling. Gravity caused it to embed itself in the ceiling because he's Australian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted October 10, 2014 Author Share Posted October 10, 2014 New build front gable. Cheers. Allan 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted October 10, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 10, 2014 Hi Allan, How do you cut the circular window frames ? Stu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted October 10, 2014 Author Share Posted October 10, 2014 Fair dinkum, I got that book 2 months ago and still haven't finished looking at all the pictures yet and there you are already building stuff from it! I'm only fairly new here but here's a couple of other books that I thought you might get some inspiration from: cathedral.jpg And have you ever thought about building one of these? windmill.jpg I was at my dads last week and pulled this out of the ceiling, I must have been 15 when I built it and being Australian and 15 I didn;t even know what thatch was but spent my May holidays glueing strands of wool to the roof and covering it with flock because Allan Downes told me to! IMAG0729 (1024x579).jpg I've already built a cathedral and so as not to upset Robinson, now might be a good time to show it again whilst he's out on the North Sea building model oil rigs at a massively great expense to the refineries. Expect 10 quid a gal' very shortly. Anyway, I'll put it up again if you haven't already seen it. Cheers. Allan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted October 10, 2014 Author Share Posted October 10, 2014 Hi Allan, How do you cut the circular window frames ? Stu Hi Stu. With a pair of dividers. Strike the circle then by applying pressure, keep turning the dividers until the point cuts right through the styrene. Cheers. Allan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravy Train Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Hi Alan, that is looking very inviting, is it American, they do have some stunning Architectural gems that are crying out to be modelled, its something different and with you at the helm, it all comes together as it should, experience rules the day, great modelling Alan. cheers Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted October 10, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 10, 2014 Hi Stu. With a pair of dividers. Strike the circle then by applying pressure, keep turning the dividers until the point cuts right through the styrene. Cheers. Allan D'oh! Simple, when you know how !! Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravy Train Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Or you could use an Olfa circular cutter, been using one for most of today. Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted October 10, 2014 Author Share Posted October 10, 2014 (edited) Hi Alan, that is looking very inviting, is it American, they do have some stunning Architectural gems that are crying out to be modelled, its something different and with you at the helm, it all comes together as it should, experience rules the day, great modelling Alan. cheers Peter Hi Peter. Yes, they are American, Southern States mostly, but similar architecture was also adopted elsewhere in sunny climates and California inparticular. The problem is that many of the details are well beyond just a Stanley knife and a sheet of plastic and really what I need is a mini-spindle router/ lathe/horizontal and vertical mill but there are limits to how far I'm prepared to go when all I'm building them for is just simply for something to do in old age and at times I must admit that I get sloppy. Cheers. Allan. Edited October 10, 2014 by allan downes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted October 11, 2014 Author Share Posted October 11, 2014 New US Victorian build. Side elevation Bay window construction x 2 Cheers. Allan. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted October 12, 2014 Author Share Posted October 12, 2014 I was kind of loosing my way with this build as the geometry has turned into a nightmare so I had to box up the main body of the building, drop the roof over, then work each bay windowed gable seperately where somehow, and much to my suprise, everything matched up at the eaves - but there's a third one yet to come and that might not match up to anything ! Cheers. Allan 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Popplewell Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 I love to see your methods Allan,sometimes try for fit, hack and hope, is the only practical method.Is the sill of the bay window "veranda" good old quarter round wooden beading? Excellent modelling as always, and keep this thread going it's one of the best on RMweb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted October 13, 2014 Author Share Posted October 13, 2014 (edited) Hi Iain. If you're referring to the bay header valance, yes it is - quarter round picture frame moulding from Wicks - mitering it was a swine ! Cheers. Allan Edited October 13, 2014 by allan downes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Popplewell Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 (edited) Bay header valance, sounds good.All I need to do is somehow drop that phrase into a conversation and just for once I might sound like I know what I'm on about. Cheers thanks for that Allan. Edit: To change valence to valance.That's two things Allan's taught me already today. Edited October 13, 2014 by iainp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted October 13, 2014 Author Share Posted October 13, 2014 New build assembled, now trying to convince myself that tiling's therapeutic! Cheers. Allan 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebottle Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Hi Iain. If you're referring to the bay header valance, yes it is - quarter round picture frame moulding from Wicks - mitering it was a swine ! Cheers. Allan I wasn't quite sure what a header valance was, Allan, but, Googling it, it seems to be a term in drapery. I would have thought that the architectural moulding we're talking about here is a convex cornice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted October 13, 2014 Author Share Posted October 13, 2014 I wasn't quite sure what a header valance was, Allan, but, Googling it, it seems to be a term in drapery. I would have thought that the architectural moulding we're talking about here is a convex cornice. Probably.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted October 13, 2014 Author Share Posted October 13, 2014 The verandas.Nothing like those in the drawing but don't tell Robinson. Cheers. Allan. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Popplewell Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) Lovely images as ever Allan, I particularly like the way you've modelled the bay header valance.Very nice. Edit: Oh no! there was me thinking I was sounding really knowledgeable and I find that Bluebottle's revealed I'm talking a load of Boxxocks yet again. He's always doing that. 2nd Edit: To change spelling of valance from valence to valance like I dId yesterday.I tell you it's not easy being me.. Edited October 14, 2014 by iainp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebottle Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Looking at your "albums and images" on RMweb, Iain, you're getting on with building things, which I'm not doing at the moment. If I differ with respected craftsmen such as Allen, it's generally on some minor point of terminology or historical fact. If I refer to things such as cornices and hanging buttresses, that's because I have books such as Banister Fletcher's "A History of Architecture on the Comparative Method" on the shelf. I try to quote from these when I think there may be some general interest in the matter, and Allan always acknowledges pedantry with genial good humour. I think it's fair to say that RMweb has a laudable ethos of tolerance and mutual respect, despite occasional spats between individuals. I'd be interested to know which upcoming shows you might be attending. I think I'll be going to Leeds on the 25th, and Wakefield next month. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted October 14, 2014 Author Share Posted October 14, 2014 Looking at your "albums and images" on RMweb, Iain, you're getting on with building things, which I'm not doing at the moment. If I differ with respected craftsmen such as Allen, it's generally on some minor point of terminology or historical fact. If I refer to things such as cornices and hanging buttresses, that's because I have books such as Banister Fletcher's "A History of Architecture on the Comparative Method" on the shelf. I try to quote from these when I think there may be some general interest in the matter, and Allan always acknowledges pedantry with genial good humour. I think it's fair to say that RMweb has a laudable ethos of tolerance and mutual respect, despite occasional spats between individuals. I'd be interested to know which upcoming shows you might be attending. I think I'll be going to Leeds on the 25th, and Wakefield next month. I've advanced since then, I used to call the bay header " the top bit "! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Popplewell Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Hi Bluebottle I'll be attending the Wakey show on the Saturday am. I usually go to the pub sometime in the afternoon.The Redoubt just down the road, although last year the landlady said the pub group might be selling the pub on, so it's probably gone down the tube by now.Send me a PM. and we can arrange to meet up if you like. Is Banisters Fletcher's "A History of Architecture on the Comparative Method" a real book or did you just make it up.It's no good me asking Allan as I suspect he wouldn't have a clue.Bay Header Valance indeed, everybody knows it's a convex cornice, although Allan will probably say it's a flying buttress now.He's built cathedrals you know, but he doesn't like to go on about it,well not much anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
C&WR Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 With a pair of dividers. I thought it was a constipated Geometry student who worked it out with a pencil and dividers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebottle Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 I thought it was a constipated Geometry student who worked it out with a pencil and dividers I've heard the pencil version of the joke before, but if you did get the point of the dividers one, the punch line would be a visit to A&E. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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