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I hate it when my wife calls my trainset "that pile of c?@p in the corner".

 

I also hate it when my customers call me "Dave"...

 

Could be worse Tony, especially if the wife called you Dave.

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Yes, I hate those 'foreign' layouts with overhead catenary that is neither powered nor strong enough for the pantograph to touch ......

 

 

Ooops, that'll be me, then ?  I shall take mine to Bressingham in August ....and Letchworth in November... is that subtle enough advertising ?

 

Nah, nah, na nah nah  :jester: :jester: :senile:

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Could be worse Tony, especially if the wife called you Dave.

Dave was the man who owned my shop before the man I bought it off. I've been there ten years and Eddy (between me and Dave) was there for seven.

I sometimes think I'm living in an senility hotspot.

 

Come to think of it, the missus might be called Dave too. I can't remember... :D

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Dave was the man who owned my shop before the man I bought it off. I've been there ten years and Eddy (between me and Dave) was there for seven.

I sometimes think I'm living in an senility hotspot.

Your customers aren't all called Trigger, are they?

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This really does annoy me when people do how to videos and they encourage you to have a go then just go its really hard and make it sounds such a hellishly difficult task and how you shouldn't do it.

There's an example where someone goes 'it really looks good when it's done but it's very hard and definently not to be done for anyone who is not a very high standard of modeller'

It's only doing hard standing for god sake! I know it's hard but really?

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One of the difficulties of living abroad at times is finding a match for certain glues etc. nobody's fault, but can cause a certain amount of trepidation. Come to think about it, I seem to have a glue fixation at the moment.

 

Oh, and I know there was a thread about this a while, back, but I think it might be relevant here,and that is not being understood *sniff*. An old friend of my wife's moved a copy of Model Rail from the sofa and sat down, she then looked at the mag with a horrified look on her face as if she'd just picked up a porn mag. All I could think to say at the time was - "we'll, it keeps me busy". :-/

 

On the up side, (and I know positivity is off topic) I've managed to find a worldwide self help group of like minded souls within these hallowed pages.

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Magazines with pictures of Photoshopped and dubiously coloured smoke/steam rising most unconvincingly from steam loco chimneys, 

 

Articles about super- detailing and "improving" a RTR model, then spoiling it by fitting clumsily out of scale coupler/brake or MU pipes/windscreen wipers.

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My own pet hates:

 

1. The trouble finding anything I need for modelling locally - box-shifters are ok for RTR stock but a rubbish substitute for all the odds and sods that long since closed model shops were great for. (We have, however ourselves to partly blame for this)

2. Picking up a part finished project and re-starting it only to re-find several hours later why it had been abandoned! (Still not got all the bit I need, or can't find the reference material needed, or just plain stuck)

3. The very vocal modelling minority that insist that their views, preferences and interests are those that we should all have. (I'm pleased that we're all different - wouldn't it be boring if we all liked the same thing)

4. Threads getting turned into excuses for the usual suspects to have pointless circular arguments (Yawn)

5. Not having enough hours in the day to do the projects I want to do (like others I'd like a well paid job which only requires limited hours a week)

6. The amazing way that bits can vanish on the work bench or, worst still, in the carpet. 

7. Long lists

8. Magazines pushing their own in-house favourite products at every opportunity in 'show you how' articles

9. Writing magazine articles only to find that the article appears with added typos and the editors own inaccurate additions

10. The lack of proper substance in many modelling articles - in many cases they appear to be heading in the direction of 'Hello' magazine type pointless recycled stock fodder 

 

Oh, can I also include the tendon pain in my right foot?

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Oh, and I know there was a thread about this a while, back, but I think it might be relevant here,and that is not being understood *sniff*. An old friend of my wife's moved a copy of Model Rail from the sofa and sat down, she then looked at the mag with a horrified look on her face as if she'd just picked up a porn mag. All I could think to say at the time was - "we'll, it keeps me busy". :-/

 

Just ask her if she likes Bruce Springsteen, Rod Stewart or whoever fits her musical taste then drop the obvious bombshell into her narrow minded little prejudice.

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I know I said no more, but I can't sleep................

 

Birthdays. Christmas. The inevitable generic tat that passes as a railway book. The ones that are specificaly produced for unsuspecting relatives to proudly present, and which are only suitable to place under your wobbly bookcase

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Time and again the magazine pictures are close-cropped, well-lit, carefully set up, often photoshopped and positioned so that very rarely do you get a glimpse of the complete layout. 

 

To be fair that is what a pro photographer is paid for in any field, whether it is to avoid making your family portrait resemble the Munsters, to con potential buyers into believing that your house/car/boat etc is not a rot ridden money pit or to portray your model railway to the world in a way that makes it not look as if it was built on a Hornby Trakmat :D.

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Spending three years planning, three years builing, and 3 month after finnishing, finding a photo you have never seen before showing the other side of the loco shed.........Thier was a door on the other side!!!!!.

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Spending three years planning, three years builing, and 3 month after finnishing, finding a photo you have never seen before showing the other side of the loco shed.........Thier was a door on the other side!!!!!.

 

Yeah, I'm with you there - there was a goods shed in Wainfleet, and until now, only one side seems to have been photographed. I've built the shed based on anecdotal evidence, but you never know... The only option is to burn any photo that surfaces of the other side of the shed that comes into my possession!

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One of mine has to be the prices of stock over here in Oz compared to England.

 

For example, to pre-order a City of Liverpool from Hattons, it would be (currently) $145.77 minus VAT. Over here from two shops? $207.95 or $209.

 

Wow, that's actually not bad compared to prices up here in QLD. A fairly average current production diesel sits between about $229 and abour $279. Want a steam loco? Expect to be paying over $300. Want one that doesn't say "railroad" on the box? Oh, you are picky now. Add another $100. I seem to recall I ordered three class 37s from Hattons when they were on special for less than the price of one from a local shop. But did cave in and buy a coach locally once - for $65 no less - which had sold out in all usual suspects in Britain...

 

And with these prices, it should not come as a surprise that you see much the same same stock in the shop when you next go in there in six months time...

 

 

Oh, add to the list of pet hates:

 

People who put old tat up on the bay of flea for mega money

... and the people who bid on it. Repeatedly.

 

No, your old broken lima trainset with half the track missing, the rest rusty, a controller that probably doesn't work (and certainly isn't /safe/ looking at that picture of the mains cable), the parts of the train that remain have obviously distorted due to being left in the sun, and no box, is *not* worth $50, and that is *not* a sensible starting bid. And all you idiots out there clicking the 'bid' button on this abomination -- do not bid on it. I can't imagine what you think you are getting, but it certainly isn't worth the money you are planning to spend on it...

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Hi

Spending three years planning, three years builing, and 3 month after finnishing, finding a photo you have never seen before showing the other side of the loco shed.........Thier was a door on the other side!!!!!.

 

Hi

Spending three years planning, three years builing, and 3 month after finnishing, finding a photo you have never seen before showing the other side of the loco shed.........Thier was a door on the other side!!!!!.

 

Hi

Spending three years planning, three years builing, and 3 month after finnishing, finding a photo you have never seen before showing the other side of the loco shed.........Thier was a door on the other side!!!!!.

 

Hi

Spending three years planning, three years builing, and 3 month after finnishing, finding a photo you have never seen before showing the other side of the loco shed.........Thier was a door on the other side!!!!!.

 

Hi

Spending three years planning, three years builing, and 3 month after finnishing, finding a photo you have never seen before showing the other side of the loco shed.........Thier was a door on the other side!!!!!.

Did exactly the same thing!!!

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CGI steam and smoke effects on Mag pictures.  Don't like them whatsoever and has in the past even put me off buying a mag on occasion.

Spilling mistaks

Model parts manufacturers advertising stuff on their websites that they have not had in stock for at least five years (and counting!) and obviously have no intention whatsoever of having in ever again (one particular outfit is the target for my ire here, my 442 will never be built now)

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To be fair that is what a pro photographer is paid for in any field, whether it is to avoid making your family portrait resemble the Munsters, to con potential buyers into believing that your house/car/boat etc is not a rot ridden money pit or to portray your model railway to the world in a way that makes it not look as if it was built on a Hornby Trakmat :D.

 

Absolutely. Speaking as a photographer, an author of a few articles, and a magazine buyer

Of course you want to see the layout presented in the best way

 

And after all, it's how most of us take photos of the real thing

The big difference is that reality has no baseboard edges or skyline limits....

 

I know what some people mean, when they say they don't like photoshopped steam, rising from a model loco

but that can add to some photos, and wouldn't put me off buying a mag anyhow.....

 

This thread has been quite enjoyable and often very funny

perhaps we now need a "sister" thread - the 3 things we really like about railway modelling? ;)

 

Marc

 

EDIT: Re my first point

I'd also like to add, I do always like to see an overall plan view and a wide shot or 2

Just to give a bit of context, and sense of the space the layout is in.....

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My big "pet hate" is when my Mum calls my railway my "train set".

No Mum, that is NOT a train set, it's my LAYOUT!!!

When I go to work, I usually say I'm off to play trains.. After all, it's a big figure eight, with tracks leading off to some hidden sidings marked 'SNCF' and 'BR'.

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1. I have run into this when needing to ship out of Europe to North America and other locations in a different business context. Insurers quickly alter their charges to reflect the losses from claims, destinations which generate many claims then require the use of a more costly secure carrier (cost to customer) in addition to a larger insurance charge (cost to customer) and the additional workload to the retailer of finding and operating with the competent agent for shipping to any specific territory. There is no universal competent agent so to serve the world you end up with quite a list. Customer complains like fury, makes accusations of uncompetitive practises and the like; but there it is, it costs what it costs. I can quite imagine some retailers deciding that the profit on such transactions is insufficient recompense.

 

2. Having seen some of the delivered items which led to claims, typically handled them rather roughly. Tyre tread marks on a package clearly marked fragile, and other impacts, crushings, lacerations, penetrations, part combustions(!) which did the contents no good at all. Those that clean disappeared who knows. Now of course this happens everywhere in the world; even in merrie old England, Postman Pat occasionally boobs. It is the rate of occurence which the insurers see, that determines where the rates are increased in just proportion.

 

But you knew all that...

This, from Cambrian Model's site, might be apposite:_

PLEASE NOTE: we are no longer able to supply goods direct to the USA or Canada, as our insurers have advised us that our product liability insurance does not cover these countries.

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When I go to work, I usually say I'm off to play trains.. After all, it's a big figure eight, with tracks leading off to some hidden sidings marked 'SNCF' and 'BR'.

ISTR most of the main line is "hidden" too - under rather a lot of water!

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