avonside1563 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Yes, I agree. It's disgusting behaviour using plastic cups for a good pint! Alan. We were just being safety conscious - didn't want glass all over the floor in the event of a breakage, and also meant we could lick up the beer without worry of getting glass in the tongue if it did happen! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaneofFife Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 meant we could lick up the beer without worry of getting glass in the tongue if it did happen! some tongues are already sharp enough here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alant Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 We were just being safety conscious - didn't want glass all over the floor in the event of a breakage, and also meant we could lick up the beer without worry of getting glass in the tongue if it did happen! Oh yes, of course, good point, I forgot about the H&S rules! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Mixed feelings about the show. As you entered there was no wow factor and an appearance of empty space where as before all the specialist and smaller traders were in there. A much better solution as it gave the feeling of a proper model railway exhibition on entry. Also if I recall there where often a couple of really good quality smaller layouts in there as well and again it added to the general we are at an Exhibition feeling. Sorry; I'm going to challenge that as I know you frequently make negative comments. As you walked through the door there was a layout in front of you, you could either walk left or right around that and there was a layout either side. There was also the most prominent stand in the show (BRM) and a series of demonstrators. Trade was concentrated in the main hall where the majority of people would spend their time. Of course it's subjective if there was a wow factor for you personally but I think anyone would be hard-pushed to think they were at anything other than a model railway exhibition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nconsistent Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 As someone who lives a very long way from the show, I was hoping to have seen some pics or video from the exhibition by now. Anyone going to put something up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted October 21, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 21, 2013 As someone who lives a very long way from the show, I was hoping to have seen some pics or video from the exhibition by now. Anyone going to put something up? We discussed this Sunday afternoon, you'd think that at least a couple of the hoards of snappers over the weekend would have been members who could post up some photos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 As someone who lives a very long way from the show, I was hoping to have seen some pics or video from the exhibition by now. Anyone going to put something up? There's quite a few in the BCB topic http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/74645-bcb-the-final-countdown/page-13 and others may do so for other content in due course. Please give people time to process pics and video. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40F Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Sorry; I'm going to challenge that as I know you frequently make negative comments. As you walked through the door there was a layout in front of you, you could either walk left or right around that and there was a layout either side. There was also the most prominent stand in the show (BRM) and a series of demonstrators. Trade was concentrated in the main hall where the majority of people would spend their time. Of course it's subjective if there was a wow factor for you personally but I think anyone would be hard-pushed to think they were at anything other than a model railway exhibition. I was meaning the Attrium as I believe it was called are`nt we allowed to voice opinions now, I hardly feel that mixed feelings is a negative comment and I did not say I did not like the show. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium polybear Posted October 21, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 21, 2013 A nice touch were the free books being given away - many thanks BRM! Downsides? Items on the menu board in the Restaurant that weren't available - and never were in the fist place. And then being changed a hundred bob (a fiver) for a couple of small plates of soggy chips; I nearly gave 'em back at the till - should have.... Overall, a very nice show. polybear Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nconsistent Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 There's quite a few in the BCB topic http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/74645-bcb-the-final-countdown/page-13 and others may do so for other content in due course. Please give people time to process pics and video. Thanks Andy, didn't want to seem impatient; just in need of an exhibition fix. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted October 21, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 21, 2013 Did anyone take a pic of the 'weathered' yellow Ford Mondeo parked outside the hall on Sunday? I wonder if it was advertised on e-bay? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Yup; professionally weathered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravensdmufan Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 I attended the show and thought the venue excellent. There are not many MRE's where you can get a nice nourishing full meal for around £7 in a proper restaurant in comfortable airy surroundings. I know the catering is nothing to do with Warners but I thought the lunch facilities were great. I enjoyed all the layouts at the show - best show of the year (along with DEMU) as far as I was concerned. Free book too - what more can I say?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted October 21, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 21, 2013 I attended the show and thought the venue excellent. There are not many MRE's where you can get a nice nourishing full meal for around £7 in a proper restaurant in comfortable airy surroundings. I know the catering is nothing to do with Warners but I thought the lunch facilities were great. I enjoyed all the layouts at the show - best show of the year (along with DEMU) as far as I was concerned. Free book too - what more can I say?! Yes, I thought the catering was good, and reasonably priced for that sort of venue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium t-b-g Posted October 22, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 22, 2013 OK, so the catering was good/bad/expensive/good value and RMwebbers have no scruples about drinking beer from a plastic receptacle. There was an old Dean Martin joke about him having a car accident but it was OK, no glass was broken. He was drinking out of a plastic cup at the time. And there may have been too many traders except there weren't any, just lots of exhibitors. Although I didn't get to Peterborough I have found Doncaster to be a little bit of a "hunt the layout". It seemed that although there were around 30 layouts, many were quite small compared to quite large trade stands. Rather than number of stands, does anybody have figures for the actual frontage of trade vs layouts? ie total trade footage compared to total layout footage. A show with 30 layouts and 60 traders is, to me, 50/50 if the trade stands are half the total size of the show, such as average layout = 12 ft and average trade stand = 6 ft. On the other hand, if the trade stands are twice the footage of the layouts, then the show is 20% layout and 80% trade. Does anybody else think that is a valid way of looking at such things or or is it just me? Actual numbers of stands can be quite misleading. Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted October 22, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 22, 2013 OK, so the catering was good/bad/expensive/good value and RMwebbers have no scruples about drinking beer from a plastic receptacle. There was an old Dean Martin joke about him having a car accident but it was OK, no glass was broken. He was drinking out of a plastic cup at the time. And there may have been too many traders except there weren't any, just lots of exhibitors. Although I didn't get to Peterborough I have found Doncaster to be a little bit of a "hunt the layout". It seemed that although there were around 30 layouts, many were quite small compared to quite large trade stands. Rather than number of stands, does anybody have figures for the actual frontage of trade vs layouts? ie total trade footage compared to total layout footage. A show with 30 layouts and 60 traders is, to me, 50/50 if the trade stands are half the total size of the show, such as average layout = 12 ft and average trade stand = 6 ft. On the other hand, if the trade stands are twice the footage of the layouts, then the show is 20% layout and 80% trade. Does anybody else think that is a valid way of looking at such things or or is it just me? Actual numbers of stands can be quite misleading. Tony I think it depends on the trade stands to be honest. If they 'overpower' the layouts then it would disappoint some (?many) punters visitors even if the numbers or frontages or whatever balance, The reason for this is that some trade stands tend to be taller than many layouts plus some of them also tend to attract far bigger crowds than some of the layouts which tends to over-emphasise their presence (although some layouts also fall into that category. If the trade stands are less obtrusive on the eye and your ability to get around a show then you tend not to notice them as much - unless you are specifically looking for them or for something on them. last Saturday we went to a 'small' local show in Didcot and although some of the layouts were quite long some were pretty small. But the way the show was arranged meant that the long trade stands didn't dominate things and the layouts caught the eye as you walked in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted October 22, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 22, 2013 I do like the Derby approach with traders round the outside and layouts in the middle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
avonside1563 Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Stafford goes for the same approach as Derby with traders round the outside and layouts in the middle which works well for me. I must admit that I found the intermingling of layouts with traders a little confusing, particularly where a small layout was next to a trader so that it almost looked like an extension of the trader's stand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffers Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Having attended on Saturday (complete with cowboy hat and, no, I did not introduce myself to fellow webbers 'cos I was too shy and retiring) for my 5th successive Peterboro show I did think it was a little quieter with fewer traders than previously. However, once again enjoyed the show with some super layouts and plan to be back again next year. As someone who has exhibited several times in the past (20 years ago with an S&DJR layout called Henstridge) I once again admire the tenacity, hard work and guts of all the exhibitors and gladly recognise that and commend all regardless of whether the layout was to my liking or not. So thanks again to all. Hopefully Spalding next. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted October 22, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 22, 2013 I do like the Derby approach with traders round the outside and layouts in the middle Yes - Abingdon do that with the Abrail show (and they ran the Didcot show as well, too small and odd shaped halls prevented it being done exactly like that but still nicely laid out). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted October 22, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 22, 2013 Geoffers, I shall watch out for the hat........... P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUTLER2579 Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Geoffers, I should watch out for that Duck and keep your hat on to protect you from whatever he may drop. Mucky Ducks :stinker: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffers Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Hah - "mucky ducks". So too watch out for Mallard, Wild Swan, Peregrine, Kingfisher et al. Hat is part beaver fur felt so has some waterproof ability although high-flying A4s may be a bit beyond it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Photos :paint: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Photos :paint: Manners please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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