robmcg Posted October 1, 2018 Author Share Posted October 1, 2018 All of which begs the question, will the older Manor models be upgraded? Wouldn't it be a great coup for Hornby! pic edited 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted October 1, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 1, 2018 All of which begs the question, will the older Manor models be upgraded? 7806_GWR_Manor_portrait15_2abcdef_r1200b.jpg Wouldn't it be a great coup for Hornby! pic edited A no brainer, as a lot of parts for the Manor already exist in Hornby's tooling library... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted October 1, 2018 Author Share Posted October 1, 2018 A no brainer, as a lot of parts for the Manor already exist in Hornby's tooling library... Would it not depend somewhat on which factory where has said tools, and if they are compatible with the various new tools required? I don't know much about such production but doubt it is always simple. Meanwhile I have bought a pristine 2016 version 42XX, Will someone rid me of this Swindonitis? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted October 1, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 1, 2018 Would it not depend somewhat on which factory where has said tools, and if they are compatible with the various new tools required? I don't know much about such production but doubt it is always simple. Meanwhile I have bought a pristine 2016 version 42XX, Will someone rid me of this Swindonitis? I think Hornby keep their tooling in one place in China (from what I've read), when it's not in use. The Manor could be built on relatively cheap budget, as all that would be need to tool up is the loco & chassis - as the tenders, wheels and various other bits are already tooled up. A 42xx? I'll raise you a Star and some white metal Castle outside steam pipes 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted October 1, 2018 Author Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) I think Hornby keep their tooling in one place in China (from what I've read), when it's not in use. The Manor could be built on relatively cheap budget, as all that would be need to tool up is the loco & chassis - as the tenders, wheels and various other bits are already tooled up. A 42xx? I'll raise you a Star and some white metal Castle outside steam pipes It would certainly show everyone what Hornby can do, in no uncertain terms! I'm sure it will be in the shops by Christmas. Didn't they say something like that in 1914? 'It'll be all over by ...' .... I'm still expecting a new run of Sir William Staniers this month. After all, I did go out and buy (another) one. What a model! Pic edited. p.s. I notice that not only are new 46256 Duchesses due this month but for December there are red and blue Princess Coronations and a black semi Duchess, and quite a few other significant models, including J36s. Nelsons in January too? And the 15 Guinea Special with 70013 is available now Edited October 1, 2018 by robmcg 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Would it not depend somewhat on which factory where has said tools, and if they are compatible with the various new tools required? I don't know much about such production but doubt it is always simple. Meanwhile I have bought a pristine 2016 version 42XX, Will someone rid me of this Swindonitis? Swindonitis just has to be sweated out of the system. It does take time, usually a lifetime... I'm not complaining! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
railroadbill Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Here's a bit of LNER-itis. Personally think Hornby did very well with the B1. Details like the North British works plate are very finely printed. This one is a New England loco but one advantage of B1s is that they appeared in many different places (including a railtour over the SDJR for instance) so a very useful engine for a variety of layout locations! 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Not sure about 42XX and 52XX classes, but I daresay they spent a lot of time in storage, thus rust would be likely? I have read that GW locos rusted more quickly than those of the other railways because they had been kept cleaner, consequently lacking a protective layer of oil-soaked gunge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
railroadbill Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 So those BR(s) locos I remember from back in the day can't ever have rusted.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted October 2, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 2, 2018 I think Hornby keep their tooling in one place in China (from what I've read), when it's not in use. The Manor could be built on relatively cheap budget, as all that would be need to tool up is the loco & chassis - as the tenders, wheels and various other bits are already tooled up. A 42xx? I'll raise you a Star and some white metal Castle outside steam pipes Would it not fit on a grange chassis ? Several here have put Bachmann / mainline ones onto a Grange chassis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted October 2, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 2, 2018 Would it not fit on a grange chassis ? Several here have put Bachmann / mainline ones onto a Grange chassis. It may do, though I suspect alterations are needed - hence why I played it safe and said a new chassis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted October 2, 2018 Author Share Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) Still on anti-GWR pills, but they aren't working. Why are there no green 42/52XX 2-8-0Ts on the s/h market? Except one over-priced Australian offering at £170+ What's gone wrong with the world? Edit; And there are very few black L1s on the market. Millions of green 67717s.... Edited October 2, 2018 by robmcg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted October 2, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) Still on anti-GWR pills, but they aren't working. Why are there no green 42/52XX 2-8-0Ts on the s/h market? Except one over-priced Australian offering at £170+ What's gone wrong with the world? Edit; And there are very few black L1s on the market. Millions of green 67717s.... Judging by the number of green 4200/5205/72xx class, a client of mine has - I'm not surprised... Nothing's wrong with world - Toboldlygo's Locomotive (and Rolling Stock) Works, is very much in business Edited October 2, 2018 by toboldlygo 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted October 3, 2018 Author Share Posted October 3, 2018 Lovely Hawksworth. I have discovered a few 42/52XXs in GWR green, early versions, seem straight, so there are a very few about. My eyes glaze over when I see prices asked on Ebay for some Hornby models... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted October 4, 2018 Author Share Posted October 4, 2018 (edited) found this for UKP62.50 very happy no brass bearings, no rear wheel guards, moulded smokebox darts, runs well, straight. Design Clever lives on. pic edited from Hattons who sold the model, slow runner, details detached. Swindon rules. where is Crewe anyway? Edited October 4, 2018 by robmcg 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted October 4, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 4, 2018 found this for UKP62.50 very happy 5274_52XX_portrait1_2abcde_r1200.jpg no brass bearings, no rear wheel guards, moulded smokebox darts, runs well, straight. Design Clever lives on. pic edited from Hattons who sold the model, slow runner, details detached. Swindon rules. where is Crewe anyway? Slow runner - check the DCC blanking plate is plugged in properly or the clamping brackets for the motor are screw down properly or there's a dcc chip fitted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted October 4, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 4, 2018 Nothing's wrong with world - Toboldlygo's Locomotive (and Rolling Stock) Works, is very much in business 316_rh.jpg 316_lhran.jpg That's a bit classy having screw link couplings fitted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted October 4, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 4, 2018 That's a bit classy having screw link couplings fitted. I didn't fit them on them on 316, that was my clients work (excellent job he did too) Though I did on this one.. Fiddly, yet rewarding job to fit them - as it required the carriage to be dismantled (something I haven't done in a while) And something out of a Blue Box... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted October 4, 2018 Author Share Posted October 4, 2018 (edited) more GWR madness... Whatever happened to the good old days? When the LNWR would build things like the Crumlin Viaduct just to keep things honest! not that 42XX engines worked over it? pic edited, derived from Hattons ad, of loco I bought. Edited October 5, 2018 by robmcg 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted October 6, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 6, 2018 Nice weathering. See 42xx not bashing re Crumlin viaduct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted October 6, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 6, 2018 more GWR madness... Whatever happened to the good old days? When the LNWR would build things like the Crumlin Viaduct just to keep things honest! not that 42XX engines worked over it? 4266_42XX_portrait1_3ab_r1200a.jpg pic edited, derived from Hattons ad, of loco I bought. You might have been surprised at what actually did work over the Crumlin viaduct,though double headers were not permitted.The leading loco was obliged to uncouple and proceed solo over the viaduct.During the 1939-45 war the line was vital to the war effort and carried a great amount of essential material. The GW heavy tanks and others...even ROD's....worked the line,apart from the occasional Grange and Manor. I have fond memories of it from childhood and youth.Looking down from the carriage window was not for the squeamish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted October 6, 2018 Author Share Posted October 6, 2018 You might have been surprised at what actually did work over the Crumlin viaduct,though double headers were not permitted.The leading loco was obliged to uncouple and proceed solo over the viaduct.During the 1939-45 war the line was vital to the war effort and carried a great amount of essential material. The GW heavy tanks and others...even ROD's....worked the line,apart from the occasional Grange and Manor. I have fond memories of it from childhood and youth.Looking down from the carriage window was not for the squeamish. Thanks, I also have memories of travel over steel truss viaducts 150-250'-high here in NZ as part of my childhood adventures, mostly on the North Island Main Trunk, it certainly was a scary feeling. The Crumlin viaduct and the shifting of coal and freight in and out of Wales certainly was part of an age now gone. I think that is why I so love 00 trains. Apart from their natural appeal. I have just bought 4 new books on the 42/52/72xx tanks and others, and the Welsh Valleys, and will have no excuses soon. but just to reassure you that I have not become a Welsh-speaking outcast, here is a pic to balance the books... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted October 6, 2018 Author Share Posted October 6, 2018 (edited) Why have I started talking funny...? What means 'boyo...?' (I welcome a short and clear explanation of the Welsh Language) The rather rare R3222.... Edited October 7, 2018 by robmcg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
railroadbill Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 Here's something a bit different as a Hornby's Best Ever model. I was looking at pics of the excellent Rapido LNER dynometer car made for Rails, and I thought of the Hornby Gresley buffet car. Looks good from the outside.... ...but it has a very detailed interior. The serving counter is great with tea urn etc. No too sure but I think the "teak" version had a different earlier layout to suit the period. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted October 7, 2018 Author Share Posted October 7, 2018 I like it! There are people elsewhere in this forum who might want to burn you at the stake, chanting 'turnbuckle! turnbukle!...!' but they may be safely ignored in this thread. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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