LongRail Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Dave have just finished going through this thread bit of a mamouth task but what a brilliant set of photos and what I found so interesting is the variety of the images and in so many instances photos which show so much more than just trains many of the pictures show so much of the infrastructure and adjacent detail. Really enjoyed looking through the photos and have got so many ideas about how I can incorporate some of the details on my layout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted March 4, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 4, 2015 J296 my eye was drawn to the crossing in the foreground. What is that object with the red sat on it? Another set of cracking shots. Andy G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted March 4, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 4, 2015 J296 my eye was drawn to the crossing in the foreground. What is that object with the red sat on it? Another set of cracking shots. Andy G I think (from memory as I was there when Dad took the photos) that it was a red flag draped over something to stop any train proceeding towards Ingleton on the "Little" North Western line as the line was out of use by then. As far as I know the last regular goods traffic over the route ceased on 1st October 1964 while passenger traffic had ceased on 30th January 1954. For a while after closure to goods traffic the line was retained as a possible diversionary route. The track was removed in 1967. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted March 4, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 4, 2015 I don't think this is the case, blinds on locos were a standard size, what makes it look different is that the metal surround the blinds run behind has either been painted grey or has faded to a grey colour. Centre head code peaks always had a bigger gap between the second and third character, I suspect this is because they utilised two two character units as used in the split box and split centre variants, side by side. Perhaps someone more familiar with the mechanisms could confirm this. D147 was one of the class 46s built with centre split headcodes, which was changed to centre type when they went through refurbishment at Brush from 1966. This loco must have been through early as most came out in corporate blue livery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted March 5, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2015 (edited) The East Coast Main Line again this evening. The photos were taken at the site of Hougham station and a little further north near Dry Doddington, south of Claypole. Hougham is to the north of Barkston. They are locations Dad and I visited quite often as they weren't too far from Mum and Dad's home. Hougham Station Class 47 down ex pass Kings X to Leeds and Bradford April 69 J1645 Hougham Class 40 40145 down ex pass 11 10am Kings X to Scarborough SO Aug 74 C1742 This is to the north of the station. The road bridge by the station is in the distance. Hougham Class 47 up cement Aug 74 C1740 This is looking north from the road bridge by the station. Dry Doddington Class 31s 5672 and 5675 High Dyke to Scunthorpe iron ore Nov 70 J2428 I think these numbers are right. Dry Doddington Class 47 up ex pass Dec 76 C3121 David Edited March 5, 2015 by DaveF 30 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 (edited) 3rd March - DSC5393. Not often that I make positive comment on modern liveries, but the Virgin East Coast livery sits rather well on that set I think. Thanks for photo's as ever Dave. Edited to correct the darned autocorrect error. Edited March 5, 2015 by leopardml2341 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted March 5, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 5, 2015 Nice picture of an elevated disc (J1645). Don't think I've seen a picture of Hougham signal box before, either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted March 5, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 5, 2015 Hi, Dave. I like tonight's ECML photo's, which I find very nostalgic. In particular, C1742 of class 40, 40145, is a classic shot of a 40 which I've spent some time viewing. The station is also very interesting and modellable. Please keep the photo's coming, All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 1N06 was the 0925 Kings Cross to Leeds & Bradford, due to pass Hougham at just after 11 a.m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted March 5, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 5, 2015 and 1L11 in C1742 was the 11:10 SO KX - Scarborough. Dec 1976 seems very early for a class 47 to have this type of headcode modification - C3121 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted March 5, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 5, 2015 1N06 was the 0925 Kings Cross to Leeds & Bradford, due to pass Hougham at just after 11 a.m. Jonny777, Thanks very much for identifying the train. and 1L11 in C1742 was the 11:10 SO KX - Scarborough. Dec 1976 seems very early for a class 47 to have this type of headcode modification - C3121 Stovepipe, Many thanks for identifying the train. I've checked the date of C3121, it is definitely December 1976 and I have a note in my slide catalogue that "it has the new marker lights", so it must have been the first one I saw with them David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted March 5, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 5, 2015 Hi, stovepipe. A thanks from me for the indentification of train 1L11. This ran via Hull, Beverley and Bridlington. I have a copy of the Working Timetable for 1979/1980, and it was still running in the Summer of 1979, from 2nd June, to 22nd September. In this timetable it is given as D315, AIR, reaching Scarborough at 15.54. I hope that this is of some additional interest. All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted March 6, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted March 6, 2015 Some odds and ends from Carlisle today. Looking at the photos you may wonder if the sun ever shines in Carlisle - It is rarely sunny when I am there. Carlisle 08844 station pilot 14th April 87 C8272 Carlisle 08419 up oil wagons trip working 21st April 87 C8345 Carlisle 08912 and 87021 1st Sept 87 C9098 Carlisle 45044 up empty steel 14th April 87 C8279 Carlisle 85009 down limestone 14th April 87 C8284 Carlisle Bruff rail road recovery vehicle 1st Sept 87 C9090 David 33 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted March 6, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 6, 2015 Am I supposed to believe that 08419 has a red buifferbeam? Jonathan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisman56 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 (edited) Am I supposed to believe that 08419 has a red buifferbeam? Jonathan Prototype weathering... you'd never get away with it on an exhibition layout... What's the purpose of the third rail in the centre road in that photo? Edited March 6, 2015 by talisman56 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted March 6, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 6, 2015 Hi, Dave. Some great photo's of Carlisle tonight. Quite seriously, 08419 does have traces of red paint on it's bufferbeam underneath all that grime - this is what I like about all of these photo's, you're getting to see the 'real railway', not the railway that we see when wearing rose-tinted spectacles! Please keep the photo's coming, All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Prototype weathering... you'd never get away with it on an exhibition layout... What's the purpose of the third rail in the centre road in that photo? Is it a test track for 00 locos and stock? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted March 6, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 6, 2015 Prototype weathering... you'd never get away with it on an exhibition layout... What's the purpose of the third rail in the centre road in that photo? The photo below shows the trap point which protects the northern end of the through roads. I think the third rail is to prevent anything derailed ending up on the platform(!) and hopefully off the platform roads. These lines only came into frequent use once freight trains started to pass through the station after closure of the freight lines after the runaway in 1984 which destroyed the bridge over the River Caldew. Carlisle 86257 Euston to Stranraer 14th April 87 C8286 The electric loco was about to come off the train to be replaced by a diesel for the rest of the journey. David 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted March 7, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 7, 2015 The third rail is indeed an extension to the trap points, to stop a derailed vehicle fouling the up main line at this point. It's not new though, it has always been there (and still is). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted March 7, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted March 7, 2015 (edited) A few photos from around the Southern in Kent for this evening. Most of them are landscapes with trains. They were all taken on days out, so most would be on Saturdays, when I was living in Essex. At that time the Dartford Tunnel was still a single tunnel with one lane each way and could be very slow indeed. If I remember correctly the second tunnel opened in May 1980, around the time of the last photo and a couple of months before I moved to the north east. Swanley down ex pass Nov 78 C4213 I cannot now remember exactly where I was when I took this, but Swanley was the nearest place according to my notes. Rochester bridge, up pass beyond 18th March 78 C3730 Chatham emu down pass 18th March 78 C3732 Chatham Class 423 down ex pass 3rd May 80 C5036 Bobbing 73104 down light engine 23rd April 77 C3305 David Edited March 7, 2015 by DaveF 32 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted March 7, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 7, 2015 C3305.....Is that a Kadee magnetic uncoupler? :scratchhead: 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 C3305.....Is that a Kadee magnetic uncoupler? :scratchhead: Wouldn't be surprised - the 73s were fitted with just about everything required for coupling! The Chatham shots are near the viaduct over the A2 heading out of town eastwards, or the "Luton Arches" as we called them. Was suprised to discover there was a bigger Luton about the same distance N of London as Chatham's Luton is E of London Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted March 7, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 7, 2015 Hi, Dave. I like the photo's that you have posted. The two of Chatham, C3732, and C5036 give a different perspective to the railway being taken from a high vantage point. In C3305, of the class 73, you have a good portrait shot of the 73. Please keep the photo's coming, All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SHMD Posted March 7, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 7, 2015 In post #2534 there is the picture of the 73 in picture C3305. On the adjacent running line, next to the leading cab, there are 8 wooden sleepers with some cabling and two black boxes. Does anybody know what it is/does? Kev. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisman56 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 In post #2534 there is the picture of the 73 in picture C3305. On the adjacent running line, next to the leading cab, there are 8 wooden sleepers with some cabling and two black boxes. Does anybody know what it is/does? Kev. My guesses: 1) Track circuits 2) Return current path bonding 3) Something else to do with the conductor rail breaks at that location Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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