RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted September 7, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 7, 2017 Scout Green Class 50 down Feb 73 C1201.jpg Scout Green Class 50 down Feb 73 C1201 D436 I reckon! Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 The photo of the class 66 passing under the footbridge looks familiar, the bridge is the same make as that put in place outside Dover after the landslip didn't know that they had built one before?. It seems quite a quite common design for footbridges now. I've see quite a few appear over motorways as replacements for earlier structures. I think it's a Half Through Warren Truss type but you'd need a civil to confirm that. P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Pilotman Posted September 7, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 7, 2017 Scout Green Class 50 down Feb 73 C1201.jpg Scout Green Class 50 down Feb 73 C1201 D436 I reckon! Mike. Whichever one it is, it's got an easy job. Looks like just five coaches to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Louch Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Hi Dave, love the pictures of the electrics at Shap. I have a couple similar to J5418 also taken at Scout Green. Not sure if you can get into a similar position now as last time I went what looked like a small maintenance area had blocked the view south? Also, I gather that a vast array of palisade (anti-trespass?) fencing has been erected in the area at huge expense which only seems to be capable of trapping sheep and deer between the rails and adjacent moors? Would be interested to know why such a decision was taken by Network Rail. Was trespass really an issue at such a remote location? Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidBird Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 (edited) ... The photo is at the northern end of the (horribly-complicated) Trent Junction complex. The bridge carries the Toton High-Level Goods Line, which crosses over the whole sprawl of junctions, until rejoining the main line towards London at Trent South Junction. Actually the bridge carried the East Arrival & West Arrival lines from the High Level Goods to the down side sidings, the HLG itself drops down to Old Bank Sidings on the up side. You can also see semaphore signals TE1, TE2 and TE15 and TT 207 colour light and Toton East Jn signalbox. The Cl25 and train is on the Down Main, having come up from Trent Junction through Long Eaton. Edited because I can't tell up from down... Edited September 7, 2017 by DavidBird 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted September 7, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 7, 2017 Hi, Dave. I like the WCML photos. The class 87 hauled trains of Mklll stock look look most impressive, in the last two photos, which is something that has been lost with today's unit railway. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Glory Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 West Coast Main Line elecrtrcs and diesels today in the 1970s. The photos are near Penrith and around Scout Green and Shap Wells. Scout Green Class 87 87025 down Aug 76 J5418.jpgScout Green Class 87 87025 down Aug 76 J5418 David Looks like 87019 to me. I'd forgotten Class 87s had numbers at both ends at this time, assuming that fact ever registered in my brain in the first place! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 West Coast Main Line elecrtrcs and diesels today in the 1970s. The photos are near Penrith and around Scout Green and Shap Wells. You may have to look hard to see the train in the first one. Scout Green Class 50 down Feb 73 C1201.jpg Scout Green Class 50 down Feb 73 C1201 Shap Wells Class 86 up Aug 76 J5413.jpg Shap Wells Class 86 up Aug 76 J5413 Shap Wells Class 86 up Aug 76 J5414.jpg Shap Wells Class 86 up Aug 76 J5414 Scout Green Class 87 87025 down Aug 76 J5418.jpg Scout Green Class 87 87025 down Aug 76 J5418 Penrith Class 87 Glasgow to Euston Aug 77 J5780.jpg Penrith Class 87 Glasgow to Euston Aug 77 J5780 David Once again some atmospheric photographs, depicting what is to my mind the most interesting section of railway in the whole country. Be it steam, diesel or electric, this section of the WCML brings out the best, no matter what the traction. Davey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 7, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 7, 2017 Looks like 87019 to me. I'd forgotten Class 87s had numbers at both ends at this time, assuming that fact ever registered in my brain in the first place! Many thanks, as usual I was in too much of a hurry and once again didn't have a close look at the photo before I typed up the caption. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Actually the bridge carried the East Arrival & West Arrival lines from the High Level Goods to the down side sidings, the HLG itself drops down to Old Bank Sidings on the up side. You can also see semaphore signals TE1, TE2 and TE15 and TT 207 colour light and Toton East Jn signalbox. The Cl25 and train is on the Down Main, having come up from Trent Junction through Long Eaton. TotonBridge.jpg Edited because I can't tell up from down... I did say it was 'orribly complicated.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 HI Dave, Fantastic Shap Wells selection, recalling Derek Cross's images taken there in the 60's its one location I never got to but always intended, same applies to the overbridge at Crawford. The closest I found for Shap Wells was a 'private' road leading to a hotel would that be the access road can you recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidBird Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) I did say it was 'orribly complicated.. Just to confuse things even further, on the Trent PSB diagram I have - the extract above is from that diagram - the designation "Down High Level Goods" extended through Toton Yards as far as Stanton Gate, even though they are all on the same level; presumably to avoid confusion with the "Down Goods", the continuation of the line from Trent Jn through (the site of) Long Eaton Town. Futher confusion is that I have also seen this line called the "2nd Down Goods"... Diagram here - (Not mine, I must add!) https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4083/4971450542_e070a745a0_b.jpg Edited September 8, 2017 by DavidBird 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) Interesting old map there David, thanks for sharing that - you wouldn't belive jus thow much of the trackage is now hidden by weeds, trees and general vegetation today. When I left my train on the Old Bank last weekend I htought I was in the jungle! Edited September 8, 2017 by Rugd1022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted September 8, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 8, 2017 Interesting old map there David, thanks for sharing that - you wouldn't belive jus thow much of the trackage is now hidden by weeds, trees and general vegetation today. When I left my train on the Old Bank last weekend I htought I was in the jungle! Just most of the down side living up to its name (Meadow...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted September 8, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted September 8, 2017 Some of Dad's photos again today, taken in Scotland. There is no real link between them. Very often he would only take one or two photos at a particular location, probably because of the cost of film. Stannergate Dundee industrial sidings Aug 74 J3933 Stirling Class 27 up Aug 73 J3337 Wemyss Bay July 74 J3847 West Ferry Dundee Class 47 down Aug 74 J3932 Wodhall 303 100 Wemyss Bay to Glasgow C July 74 J3851 David 41 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Some of Dad's photos again today, taken in Scotland. There is no real link between them. Very often he would only take one or two photos at a particular location, probably because of the cost of film. Stannergate Dundee industrial sidings Aug 74 J3933.jpg Stannergate Dundee industrial sidings Aug 74 J3933 Stirling Class 27 up Aug 73 J3337.jpg Stirling Class 27 up Aug 73 J3337 Wemyss Bay July 74 J3847.jpg Wemyss Bay July 74 J3847 West Ferry Dundee Class 47 down Aug 74 J3932.jpg West Ferry Dundee Class 47 down Aug 74 J3932 Wodhall 303 100 Wemyss Bay to Glasgow C July 74 J3851.jpg Wodhall 303 100 Wemyss Bay to Glasgow C July 74 J3851 David Love shot J3932 of Stannergate industrial sidings Dundee, David. So much atmosphere. Love the wall with the new brick pillar at this end. Would look totally wrong on a model. Some of that trackwork was not laid to P4 standards. Thank you so much for sharing them with us. Paul J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted September 8, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 8, 2017 Hi, Dave. What an excellent set of Scottish photos. The tankers look very interesting in the first photo, and I'm sure would make excellent models. I like the view of the class 27 in Stirling, which must have been taken from the castle, in the second photo. The last photo is a great view of a 303 at Wodhall in some scenic countryside. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted September 8, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 8, 2017 J3337 another pic with one of the famed Griddle cars J3932 second last coach looks like an RSO but with no accompanying restaurant car? i think i can make out a red stripe, but definitely writing on the side. Also shows the mk2a BFK had red gangway doors, not green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Just going back to the designation of lines north of Toton, I always thought they were (from east to west: Up Goods Dn Goods Up Main Dn Main 2nd Dn Goods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Just going back to the designation of lines north of Toton, I always thought they were (from east to west: Up Goods Dn Goods Up Main Dn Main 2nd Dn Goods Looking at Quail, this appears to be the case north of Stapleford and Sandiacre, except that the westerly Down Goods is now referred to as the 'Mapperley Goods Branch, as it isn't accessible from the other lines north of S&S any more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted September 9, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted September 9, 2017 (edited) I suppose I could say that all today's photos were taken in Derbyshire to form a link between the locations. Whaley Bridge course of C&HP incline April 72 J2907 Whaley Bridge Peak C&HP canal basin April 72 J2908 near Stenson Junction Class 46 46016? Plymouth to Sheffield Aug 76 J5438 near Stenson Junction Class 120 Crewe to Lincoln Aug 76 J5439 Whittington Junction Staveley works behind Sept 76 J5450 David Edited September 10, 2017 by DaveF 40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrowroad Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 I suppose I could say that all today's photos were taken in Derbyshire to form a link between the locations. Whaley Bridge course of Peak Forest tramway incline April 72 J2907.jpg Whaley Bridge course of Peak Forest tramway incline April 72 J2907 Whaley Bridge Peak Forest tramway canal basin April 72 J2908.jpg Whaley Bridge Peak Forest tramway canal basin April 72 J2908 Willington Junction Class 46 46116 Plymouth to Sheffield Aug 76 J5438.jpg Willington Junction Class 46 46116 Plymouth to Sheffield Aug 76 J5438 Willington Junction Class 120 Crewe to Lincoln Aug 76 J5439.jpg Willington Junction Class 120 Crewe to Lincoln Aug 76 J5439 Whittington Junction Staveley works behind Sept 76 J5450.jpg Whittington Junction Staveley works behind Sept 76 J5450 David Hi David, Excellent photos as usual. J2908 is the Whaley Bridge Incline on the Cromford & High Peak Railway rather than the Peak Forest Tramway. Regards Robin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beechnut Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Great pix as ever but Willington Junction? Just passed North Staffs and heading for Stenson Junction. Power Station to the left and Greyhound Inn to the right. Cheers Brendan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBill Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 J5438, J5439: note all the windows open in the unforgettable summer of '76... Bill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grovenor Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Hi David, Excellent photos as usual. J2908 is the Whaley Bridge Incline on the Cromford & High Peak Railway rather than the Peak Forest Tramway. Regards Robin same goes for the basin in the second shot, the sheds were for transhipment from the C&HP. The Peak Forest Tramway terminated at the, much larger, Bugsworth basin a short distance away on the other arm of the canal. Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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