Fat Controller Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 TIMBER P ? Regards, John Isherwood. There don't seem to be a mid-wagon bulkhead, as fitted to the 'P's- perhaps the purpose-built Dia 1/420 type which worked from Portishead in later days, but which had been used on sawn timber traffic from various East Coast ports to various destinations? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Belgian ferry van further over by the signal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HitchinLoco Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Some more photos from visits to York for today in 1965, 1966 and 1979. York Class 03 D2451 and Class 04 D2231 and Class 08 up Aug 65 J238.jpg York Class 03 D2151 and Class 04 D2231 and Class 08 up Aug 65 J238 York Class 47 D1588 Kings X to Newcastle Dec 66 J705.jpg York Class 47 D1988 11.00 Kings X to Newcastle Dec 66 J705 York Class 101 Sat 7 Apr 79 C4384.jpg York Class 111 Sat 7 Apr 79 C4384 York Class 47 Liverpool to Newcastle and V2 4771 ecs for York circular The Northumbrian Limited Sat 7 Apr 79 C4391.jpg York Class 47 Liverpool to Newcastle and V2 4771 ecs for York circular The Northumbrian Limited Sat 7 Apr 79 C4391 York Class 40 special York to Chester Sat 7th April 79 C4412.jpg York Class 40 special York to Chester Sat 7th April 79 C4412 David Hi David, really enjoy seeing your pics. Not sure if I have helped or not but had ago taking the guys out of the shot. Please delete if not wanted. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 (edited) To be honest, I feel the two "spotters" make the picture David. I've tweeked it slightly..... Edited September 18, 2016 by Peter Kazmierczak 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted September 18, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted September 18, 2016 (edited) Today's "preserved" photos are simply records of visits to Ashchurch and Parkend in very dull and dismal weather sometime in April 1972. Hence the "softness" (i.e. they are not very sharp) as I was using a wide aperture to get a reasonable shutter speed on 100 ASA film. Ashchurch Dowty Rly Pres Socy Barclay ex Devonport Dockyard April 72 C893 Ashchurch Dowty Rly Pres Socy Barclay ex Devonport Dockyard April 72 C0894 Ashchurch Dowty Rly Pres Socy Barclay ex Devonport Dockyard and 6201 April 72 C0895 Ashchurch Dowty Rly Pres Socy rail wheeled lorry April 72 C896 It is a Bedford QL - many thanks to Clive Mortimore for the information. Parkend Peckett 2147 Uskmouth No 1 exUskmouth Power station April 72 C899 (2) Parkend Peckett 2147 Uskmouth No 1 ex Uskmouth Power station April 72 C901 David Edited September 18, 2016 by DaveF 24 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted September 18, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 18, 2016 The lorry is a Bedford QL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted September 18, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted September 18, 2016 A few on the Cambrian Coast line for the second set today. Once again they were taken on holidays in the area when Dad or I were visiting the narrow gauge lines. Criccieth Class 24 5145 down goods July 72 J3039 Criccieth view east 23rd July 01 C25593 Barmouth Bridge July 82 C5773 Tywyn Park Royal dmu Pwlhelli to Machynlleth 10th Aug 79 C4775 Tywyn Central Trains 158847 to Pwlhelli 26th July 01 C25431 David 33 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 18, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 18, 2016 Hi David, really enjoy seeing your pics. Not sure if I have helped or not but had ago taking the guys out of the shot. Please delete if not wanted. To be honest, I feel the two "spotters" make the picture David. I've tweeked it slightly..... post-5613-0-66153800-1474037357_thumb1.jpg I don't mind when individuals do small changes to the photos, I enjoyed looking at both of them. I have to admit I very rarely remove anything from my railway photos - very few railway publishers will accept an image where something has been removed or altered. An altered photo is also less useful to anyone who uses a photo as a historical reference. The change in contrast in Peter's version has improved the image. I actually worked on the photo a long time ago and selected it to put on here in a hurry (as happens when I am pushed for time) and hadn't noticed how "flat" it is. I have also found that since moving to Windows 10 I was getting a slightly different image in terms of contast and saturation when working on the image in Photoshop than I saw on the screen when looking at photos with "Photos" in Windows 10. I have now recalibrated my monitor and altered some settings in Photoshop which has helped. A trap for the unwary though. David 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Must admit I did add a little more hair to the individual on the right though............ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted September 18, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 18, 2016 Hi, Dave. Very interesting photos of Ashchurch and Parkend today. What interesting vehicle the Bedford QL is, I've not seen anything like it before. The Cambrian Coast line photos are as interesting as ever. At Tywyn, the track layout has been rationalised over the years, and the units have gone from class 103's to class 158's. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnH Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 (edited) Thanks again David for continuing to post your excellent photos. I particularly like the Cambrian pick up freight in J3039. Even though all the wagons appear to be fitted there's a brake van at the rear - do you know if this was the standard practice at that time? Edited September 19, 2016 by JohnH Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 19, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 19, 2016 Other goods trains I saw that holiday on the Cambrian had them. I'm not sure what the official position was, I'm sure others here will know better than I do. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Thanks again David for continuing to post your excellent photos. I particularly like the Cambrian pick up freight in J3039. Even though all the wagons appear to be fitted there's a brake van at the rear - do you know if this was the standard practice at that time? A brakevan would have been in the consist as a matter of course as unfitted wagons, 16t + 21t minerals/hoppers usually, may well be added to the train later in its journey, or indeed left at a previous yard. Trip or pick up workings, which is most probably what the photo is of, would have still had a brake van in the consist up until the mid 80's, and beyond in some areas, due to the mix or lack of continuous brakes that might be encountered with wagons left or picked up en-route. Only with the withdrawal of unfitted wagons towards the end of the 80's did the requirement of brake vans really start to diminish, and eventually disappear except for a few exceptional traffic requirements. Paul J. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Hi, Dave. Very interesting photos of Ashchurch and Parkend today. What interesting vehicle the Bedford QL is, I've not seen anything like it before. The Cambrian Coast line photos are as interesting as ever. At Tywyn, the track layout has been rationalised over the years, and the units have gone from class 103's to class 158's. With warmest regards, Rob. The QL conversion was not that unusual; quite a few ex-military 4x4 vehicles were adapted to act as shunters on private sidings. One of the more unusual ones was a White Scout-Car (like a M3 half track, but with wheels fore and aft) at a grain silo in Western France; modifications were minimal, even the front visor with a 'letter-box' to look through was retained. Dowty were involved in developing retarders for hump yards; I believe this lorry was used to propel test wagons towards the retarders. I recollect reading that it was replaced by a later Bedford. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium D.Platt Posted September 19, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 19, 2016 Thanks David for the Healy Mills shots ,It brought back happy memories as it was always a diversion for us on our way to Wakefield model exibition. Dennis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted September 19, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted September 19, 2016 We'll head in a generally northerly direction along the Midland today, starting north of Keighley and ending up beyond Skipton. Steeton and Silsden Sept 74 J4050 Kildwick new barriers lifting Sept 66 J650 Cononley LMS Class 5 44884 down parcels June 67 J917 Cononley 144006 down pass 24th Aug 98 C23980 Gargrave LMS 8F 48136 up light engine Oct 65 J405 The original slide had suffered over the years. David 37 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnH Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 More brilliant photos Dave and thanks for all the responses to the 'Brake Van' question on the Cambrian freight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted September 19, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 19, 2016 Hi, Dave. Love the photo's of the Midland line to just after Skipton. In the second photo, J650 at Kildwick, you can see that the, for want of a better description, 'control boxes' are pink in colour. I have often wondered why they should be in pink, of all colours! J917, at Cononley is absolutely brilliant, so full of atmosphere and nostalgia. Just how things were back near to the end of steam on BR. Thank you for posting the last one of Gargrave in October, 1965. It forms a further historical record of the Settle and Carlisle railway in the mid '60's. Therefore the condition of the original slide is not of too much worry - it only would have been if it could not have been used at all. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted September 20, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted September 20, 2016 As it was sunny this morning with barely a cloud in the sky I decided to spend some time at Damdykes crossing on the ECML north of Newcastle. A number of trains were running late but a catching up process was going on, so I saw 10 trains in 43 minutes. The trains I saw at the end of my visit were more or less on time. I thought I'd post a few photos over the coming days. BSC_1758 Damdykes Class 43 down 1S03 Leeds to Aberdeen 0951 20th September 2016 BSC_1759 Damdykes Class 43 down 1S03 Leeds to Aberdeen 0951 20th September 2016 BSC_1768 Damdykes Class 91 1S04 Kings X to Edinburgh 0957 20th September 2016 BSC_1772 Damdykes 156444 Morpeth to Metrocentre 1001 20th September 2016 BSC_1773 Damdykes 91104 1S05 Kings X to Edinburgh 1003 20th September 2016 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted September 20, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted September 20, 2016 (edited) Now for today's older photos. This time they are from Yorkshire, most are not far from Harrogate. Wilstrop crossing and siding. Cattal view from Harrogate to York dmu Aug 65 J215 Taken from rear of train. Crimple junction view to Prospect Tunnel on Wetherby line Aug 65 J266. Harrogate Class A1 60131 Osprey up light engine Aug 65 J270 Collingham pw tamper after closure Sept 65 J354 Garforth Class 101 Leeds City to Hull May 67 J0897 David Edited September 20, 2016 by DaveF 41 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 I believe this lorry was used to propel test wagons towards the retarders. I recollect reading that it was replaced by a later Bedford. Scroll down to the bottom of this page for a pic of the other Dowty Bedford. http://www.tewkesburydirect.co.uk/times-gone-by/ The lorries propelled wagons onto the test rig as well as carrying out other duties. Heres the rig when new. A regular on the forum and no mean buffer manufacturer himself may be along in a mo to give further details, as his dads Dowty office overlooked the rig. P 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted September 20, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 20, 2016 J215 - I wonder what the construction on the left was - was it railway related? I am quite familiar with the York-Harrogate line having worked on it in recent years as a Guard, however I don't recognise that structure! Garforth station (J0897) however remains very recognisable apart from the class of DMU! I have often wondered how long ago the steps to the left were added to the typical NER footbridge to make a down side entrance; evidently longer than I had thought. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 (edited) J215 - I wonder what the construction on the left was - was it railway related? I am quite familiar with the York-Harrogate line having worked on it in recent years as a Guard, however I don't recognise that structure! Wilstrop crossing & Siding. http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/w/wilstrop_siding/ Edited September 20, 2016 by Porcy Mane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted September 20, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 20, 2016 Hi, Dave. A lovely set from Damdykes today, and I must add that the weather there is infinitely better than here where it has been cloudy and wet all day! The Yorkshire photos are such gems. The first one is of such historical importance, and thank goodness for the first generation DMU's so that the photo could have been taken - it shows both NER lower quadrant and BR upper quadrant signals being used side by side, as well as the intriguing cover over the goods siding. In the photo at Collingham, I am wondering what that tamper will have been doing there, for surely track lifting would be the only thing likely to have happened next in that closed line. Finally at Gartforth in the last photo, the train formation is another hybrid unit as follows, from the camera: Class 101 DMCL + Class 104 TBSL + Class104 TSL + Class 101 DMCL. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted September 20, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 20, 2016 Wilstrop crossing & Siding. http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/w/wilstrop_siding/ So it is! Never seen a picture of Wilstrop when it was a passenger station before; now just a staffed level crossing. The lever frame 'cabinet' in the picture on the linked page looks to be of the same as the one still in use at Hammertoe station. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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