RMweb Premium keefer Posted September 15, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 15, 2016 J2440 - noticed the destination board on the 2nd coach, is it possible to read what it says? Looks like it might be a name rather than a 'somewhere-somewhere' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 15, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 15, 2016 J2440 - noticed the destination board on the 2nd coach, is it possible to read what it says? Looks like it might be a name rather than a 'somewhere-somewhere' I've enlarged the original and can't read anything on it. It looks as though the board may be reversed as all I can see see are some faint marks. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Today we look at trains around Great Ponton in the late 60s and very early 70s. Great Ponton is on the ECML to the south of Grantham. Great Ponton Class 47 up Nov 70 J2441.jpg Great Ponton Class 47 up Nov 70 J2441 David Nice ECML photos once again. The 47 in J2441 is one of the "Generator" first 20. Number is either 1513 or 1519, can't make my mind up which. Not helped by not finding many photos of 1513 to compare against. Paul J. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
avonside1563 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 A bit later than usual as I decided to go the Quayside to look at the preparations for the Tall Ships event from Friday to Monday. No ships yet. I don't think I'll be driving anywhere this weekend looking at the local restrictions. Back to the iron ore lines around Harlaxton and Woolsthorpe by Belvoir today. One working loco on a special, some dead ones and some views of the lines. k Harlaxton Quarries Stewart and Lloyds Austerity Jan 69 J1537.jpg Harlaxton Quarries Stewart and Lloyds Austerity Jan 69 J1537 The Barclay behind is probably either Denton or Rutland. The Barclay far right should be Ajax. Harlaxton Woolsthorpe Road crossing Sept 70 C341.jpg Harlaxton Woolsthorpe Road crossing Sept 70 C341 Hunslet 2413 built 1941 Gunby on a special k Harlaxton Quarries Gunby with special Sept 70 J2328.jpg Harlaxton Quarries Gunby with special Sept 70 J2328 Hunslet 2413 built 1941 Gunby Both Gunby and the loco to the left in J1573 are members of the Hunslet 18" 50550 class and as such precursors to the 18" Austerity. It's a common mistake as they are visually very similar but obvious differences are the deeper buffer beams, sloped bunkers and side rods with cottered split brasses rather than plain round brasses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 15, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) Both Gunby and the loco to the left in J1573 are members of the Hunslet 18" 50550 class and as such precursors to the 18" Austerity. It's a common mistake as they are visually very similar but obvious differences are the deeper buffer beams, sloped bunkers and side rods with cottered split brasses rather than plain round brasses. Thanks very much for reminding me that they are 50500 class members. A very long time ago I knew things like that as I sometimes needed the information but had forgotten. David Edited September 15, 2016 by DaveF 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted September 16, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 16, 2016 I've found these photos taken by Dad of the bridge rebuilding work. The first photo is before the work started. Rectory Junction Radcliffe on Trent viaduct Feb 77 J5627.jpg Rectory Junction Radcliffe on Trent viaduct Feb 77 J5627 Rectory Junction Radcliffe on Trent viaduct 25230 pw crane Dec 79 J6691.jpg Rectory Junction Radcliffe on Trent viaduct 25230 pw crane Dec 79 J6691 Rectory Junction Radcliffe on Trent viaduct 25230 pw crane Dec 79 J6692.jpg Rectory Junction Radcliffe on Trent viaduct 25230 pw crane Dec 79 J6692 Rectory Junction Radcliffe on Trent viaduct 25230 pw crane Dec 79 J6693.jpg Rectory Junction Radcliffe on Trent viaduct 25230 pw crane Dec 79 J6693 Rectory Junction Radcliffe on Trent viaduct 25230 pw crane Dec 79 J6694.jpg Rectory Junction Radcliffe on Trent viaduct 25230 pw crane Dec 79 J6694 Rectory Junction Radcliffe on Trent viaduct 25230 pw crane Dec 79 J6695.jpg Rectory Junction Radcliffe on Trent viaduct 25230 pw crane Dec 79 J6695 Rectory Junction Radcliffe on Trent viaduct scaffolding removal in progress March 80 J6805.jpg Rectory Junction Radcliffe on Trent viaduct scaffolding removal in progress March 80 J6805 Rectory Junction Radcliffe on Trent viaduct Class 47 Parkeston Quay to Manchester March 80 J6807.jpg Rectory Junction Radcliffe on Trent viaduct Class 47 Parkeston Quay to Manchester March 80 J6807 Rectory Junction Radcliffe on Trent viaduct Class 47 Parkeston Quay to Manchester March 80 J6808.jpg Rectory Junction Radcliffe on Trent viaduct Class 47 Parkeston Quay to Manchester March 80 J6808 Rectory Junction Radcliffe on Trent viaduct Class 114 Nottingham to Skegness March 80 J6809.jpg Rectory Junction Radcliffe on Trent viaduct Class 114 Nottingham to Skegness March 80 J6809 David The bridge work photos are very interesting. The Class 25 in those photos is 25320 not 25230 as marked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 16, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 16, 2016 The bridge work photos are very interesting. The Class 25 in those photos is 25320 not 25230 as marked. Thanks, captions now corrected. Typed it wrong once and then copied and pasted the error. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted September 16, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) Some more photos from visits to York for today in 1965, 1966 and 1979. York Class 03 D2151 and Class 04 D2231 and Class 08 up Aug 65 J238 York Class 47 D1988 11.00 Kings X to Newcastle Dec 66 J705 York Class 111 Sat 7 Apr 79 C4384 York Class 47 Liverpool to Newcastle and V2 4771 ecs for York circular The Northumbrian Limited Sat 7 Apr 79 C4391 York Class 40 special York to Chester Sat 7th April 79 C4412 David Edited September 16, 2016 by DaveF 46 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cctransuk Posted September 16, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 16, 2016 York Class 03 D2451 and Class 04 D2231 and Class 08 up Aug 65 J238.jpg York Class 03 D2451 and Class 04 D2231 and Class 08 up Aug 65 J238 David, J238 is, I believe, D2151 not D2451. Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted September 16, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 16, 2016 Hi, Dave. Excellent photos of York. In C4384, the unit is a Rolls Royce engined class 111. The cab wind screens, battery boxes and large radiator are all identifying factors. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted September 16, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) Hi Dave More smashing photos ... Apologies but a spanner in the loco works again... J705 D1588 was a WR loco so was surprised - but not impossible - to see her at York on a KX - Newcastle - displaying wrong headcode too? Edit - corrected by Mark , see below Phil However D1588 was built with 3piece fixed rad grilles and still had them when she went to GFYE - see https://www.flickr.com/photos/67444577@N02/7263947944/in/photolist-c4TCDN-a93qjB-5t8Kk9-54e2Wv-55udoa-hUg7o5-Mtjmd-2995Tq-b9tqSx-ENBcxW-behiu2-7TC83p-6MjAHk-cHEd5o-cHEd85-anTxnX-NBEz7-NBEzm-anW9Nf-dXQJpq-93SSPC-e1rRny-299hu3-cHE4K1-dYZXeW-8Qbcp6-a2hiyq-aERrrD-7TC7xn-e1sbYA-r6KNHw-Mtjmh-r6KNPy-7TC95K-dXR48A-r6KNQA-2995Rq-7TC9mF-aES6Yg-299hxE-dZ17nh-auj27D-aujodX-6PPRdH-ag4FTh-e1rRo9-behjFk-GwmjrE-7zVZ8e-NBEyY The Serck grilles as fitted to the loco in the photo are correct for D1988 which was an ECML machine - and on scrutinising the enlarged photo would suggest that is the loco in your photo. Wonder if you agree? Kind regards Phil Edited September 16, 2016 by Phil Bullock Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Endacott Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) Back to the great number debate. I don't think it is 36 because that one had the top of its electrification flashes level with the top. of the headcode. The loco in this photo has them slightly lower down. I have only just looked at this part of the thread and now have an excuse to go through my Class 45 photo collection again. Geoff Endacott Edited September 17, 2016 by Geoff Endacott 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark54 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 J705 D1588 was a WR loco so was surprised - but not impossible - to see her at York on a KX - Newcastle - displaying wrong headcode too! 1A22 was the 11:00 KX-Newcastle. Looks to be the Saturday train from the formation. Agree the loco is D1988 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 16, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 16, 2016 Hi Dave More smashing photos ... Apologies but a spanner in the loco works again... J705 D1588 was a WR loco so was surprised - but not impossible - to see her at York on a KX - Newcastle - displaying wrong headcode too! However D1588 was built with 3piece fixed rad grilles and still had them when she went to GFYE - see https://www.flickr.com/photos/67444577@N02/7263947944/in/photolist-c4TCDN-a93qjB-5t8Kk9-54e2Wv-55udoa-hUg7o5-Mtjmd-2995Tq-b9tqSx-ENBcxW-behiu2-7TC83p-6MjAHk-cHEd5o-cHEd85-anTxnX-NBEz7-NBEzm-anW9Nf-dXQJpq-93SSPC-e1rRny-299hu3-cHE4K1-dYZXeW-8Qbcp6-a2hiyq-aERrrD-7TC7xn-e1sbYA-r6KNHw-Mtjmh-r6KNPy-7TC95K-dXR48A-r6KNQA-2995Rq-7TC9mF-aES6Yg-299hxE-dZ17nh-auj27D-aujodX-6PPRdH-ag4FTh-e1rRo9-behjFk-GwmjrE-7zVZ8e-NBEyY The Serck grilles as fitted to the loco in the photo are correct for D1988 which was an ECML machine - and on scrutinising the enlarged photo would suggest that is the loco in your photo. Wonder if you agree? Kind regards Phil Phil, You could well be right. As you will already know any image with a file number beginning with a "J" is one of Dad's photos, usually I take the loco details from his catalogues. His identifications may or may not be correct, depending on whether he made notes at the time or tried to read the number off the slide later on. Knowing how often I can write down the wrong number it is not surprising he got them wrong too. I am always a bit wary of changing his identifications as the scans are not always that clear, the numbers weren't always clear on the original slides either - Agfa 50ASA slide film was nothing like as "sharp" as Kodachrome 25 which was used by some photographers, but which had the problem that a fast shutter speed could only be used in the best of light. So I am always very pleased when someone has the time and knowledge to think about the various possible numbers and come up with a good answer. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 16, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 16, 2016 1A22 was the 11:00 KX-Newcastle. Looks to be the Saturday train from the formation. Agree the loco is D1988 Thanks once again Mark. It probably was a Saturday. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted September 16, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 16, 2016 Thanks Mark Interesting take on the headcode - Did many north bound trains have A headcodes? Always thought that was London bound.... Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted September 16, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 16, 2016 ECML KX trains were 1Axx in both directions at that time with down trains being even numbers and up trains odd numbers: http://www.napier-chronicles.co.uk/wtt66-67.htm Headcodes changed in 1969 when all up KX trains became 1Axx and down trains used a 'destination' letter. Trains from Scotland became 1Exx and to Scotland 1Sxx (i.e. normal inter-regional letters) http://www.napier-chronicles.co.uk/wtt69-70.htm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted September 17, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 17, 2016 York Class 40 special York to Chester Sat 7th April 79 C4412 Looks like 40015, which was reported leaving York southbound at around 5:30pm on 7th April 1979. Nameplate bolts just visible and still with frost screens. Another partial shot at York on the same day here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
35A Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 York Class 40 special York to Chester Sat 7th April 79 C4412 Looks like 40015, which was reported leaving York southbound at around 5:30pm on 7th April 1979. Nameplate bolts just visible and still with frost screens. Another partial shot at York on the same day here. I checked The Railtour Files on Six Bells Junction and couldn't find any reference to a York to Chester excursion that day. However, there was a BR Merrymaker on 7th April '79, trundling around South Yorkshire and the Woodhead route, which reached York later in the day en route back to ChesterFIELD, but that is recorded as being headed by 40 013. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted September 17, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 17, 2016 Yes I thought it would be that tour at first (with class 13 haulage!), but 40 013 had lost its frost screen by April 1979 and had the OHLW signs lower down. Class 40 motherlist has 40 015 on a southbound departure, and the other photo confirms she was at York that day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted September 17, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2016 Thanks for all the information about the York photos. Today's batch includes one from Ravensthorpe, the rest are from Healey Mills at various times. Ravensthorpe Class 25 D7573 up parcels Aug 67 J1104 Healey Mills Class 08 D3361 April 68 J1274 Healey Mills 56008, 56044, 56067 3rd Jan 87 C8163 Healey Mills Classes 45,31, 56 3rd Jan 87 C8165 Healey Mills 37203 & 37370 Sandite train 26th Oct 99 C24697 David 45 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted September 17, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 17, 2016 J1104....brilliant shot Dave! Thank you for sharing Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted September 17, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 17, 2016 Hi, Dave. I like the photos posted today, and that first one is remarkable, such a collection of stock behind the 25. Healey Mills was full of interest and I can't help noticing all the MGR wagons! With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBill Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Post 7767, photo J1274: fantastic shot. What are the wagons to the left of the trestle wagon (behind the LMS-design guards van)? Note the unusual grey shade of the farthest right-hand mineral wagon in the same rake. Thanks, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cctransuk Posted September 17, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 17, 2016 Post 7767, photo J1274: fantastic shot. What are the wagons to the left of the trestle wagon (behind the LMS-design guards van)? Note the unusual grey shade of the farthest right-hand mineral wagon in the same rake. Thanks, Bill TIMBER P ? Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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