RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted September 12, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2016 A visit to the Midland today with photos between Nottingham and Loughborough. Approaching Beeston from the east from a dmu Aug 69 C028 Trent Class 44 up goods July 76 C2866 Kegworth Class 47 D1513 down iron ore May 69 J1660 Hathern Class 45 up Aug 78 C4108. Loughborough Midland Class 45 D11? up Thames Clyde May 69 J1699 David 34 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 A visit to the Midland today with photos between Nottingham and Loughborough. e Approaching Beeston from the east from a dmu Aug 69 C028.jpg Approaching Beeston from the east from a dmu Aug 69 C028 l Trent Class 44 up goods July 76 C2866.jpg Trent Class 44 up goods July 76 C2866 Kegworth Class 47 D1513 down iron ore May 69 J1660.jpg Kegworth Class 47 D1513 down iron ore May 69 J1660 Hathern Class 45 up Aug 78 C4108.jpg Hathern Class 45 up Aug 78 C4108. Loughborough Midland Class 45 D11 up Thames Clyde May 69 J1699.jpg Loughborough Midland Class 45 D11? up Thames Clyde May 69 J1699 David Another nice set of photos David. Thank you once again for sharing. The 45 in photo C4108 is a 45/1 as you can make out the ETH jumpers on the buffer beam. Should narrow the candidates down in any "what's the number" debate. Paul J. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted September 12, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 12, 2016 Hi, Dave. Exact photos of the Midland line today. In the first photo, it was taken from a class 120 Cross Country unit. The windscreen is the big clue here, and it is just possible to make out that the unit approaching on the other line is a class 104 unit. Again the cab windows are a good clue. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted September 12, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 12, 2016 The restriction for the roof horn mounted 37's was Clapton Tunnels on the section of line between Hackney Downs and Copper Mill Jcn. Apart from that route the were no other restrictions that I knew of for other routes. They could still get to Cambridge via the Southbury loop or via Stratford and Temple Mills. There were no restrictions on the route to Ipswich and Norwich. Paul J. Somewhat embarassingly I realise I have written about this previously on this thread, but seem to have forgotten since! It was rare though to see the centre headcode 37s at Liverpool St in the classic diesel era, SF allocated or otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
35A Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Interesting to see D1513 (in J1660) on the Midland. The ECML "Generators" did not tend to stray very far until the tail-end of their careers, when they became more wayward. This would have been taken at the time when the ECML was concentrating on keeping air-braked members of the class at the south end and those that were not yet fitted were exchanged with Immingham or, in this case, Tinsley examples until such time as they went through works. D1513 was sent north in 1967 and stayed away from the main line at Tinsley until it was dual-braked and blue-liveried at the end of 1969, at which point it was transferred to York and back on to ECML duties. The Deltics suffered similar treatment, with four of the Finsbury Park racehorses banished to Haymarket, in exchange for four air-braked Scottish examples, in order to keep air-braked locos at FP initially. I remember walking onto Swansea High Street station in 1986 and my surprise at finding 47 418 (D1517) at the head of a parcels train, a couple of months after withdrawal of the first examples of the original batch of Brush 4s had commenced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted September 13, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2016 London Tilbury and Southend today with the ubiquitous Class 302s seen at Laindon and Leigh on Sea ibetween 1974 and 1980. Laindon 302283 Fenchurch St to Shoeburyness March 77 C3242 Laindon Class 302 275 Shoeburyness to Fenchurch St Feb 80 C4952 Leigh on Sea dull day 302 down pass in station Sept74 C1783 Leigh on Sea 302 246 Shoeburyness to Fenchurch St July 77 C3378 Leigh on Sea 302256 Fenchurch St to Shoeburyness July 79 C4653 David 28 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted September 13, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 13, 2016 Hi, Dave. A great set of photos of the L.T.&S.R. today. As always, it is good seeing the class 302's hard at their everyday work. The photos form a valauble record of how the railway was back in the '70's. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted September 13, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 13, 2016 I have been looking at loads of photos of ER AC EMUs, On the guards doors they have something attached to them as in C1783. Where these mirrors so the guard could sight signals etc? Because when built that was a guards duty, hence duckets or periscopes being fitted to hauled stock. With the pantograph on top a periscope would have been no good and BR stock was built to the maximum loading gauge leaving no room for duckets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted September 13, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 13, 2016 Never noticed that before, the Blue Pullmans had something similar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted September 14, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted September 14, 2016 Bottesford and Radcliffe on Trent on the GNR line from Grantham to Nottingham for today. Quality wise some are better than others. Bottesford South. view to GN and LNWR joint line to Melton Mowbray July 83 C6126 Radcliffe on Trent viaduct (part of) from north side May 75 C2053 For those who know the area it was taken from the Cliff Walk. Radcliffe on Trent Class 114 Grantham to Nottingham Sept 76 C3014 Radcliffe on Trent Class 47 Parkeston Quay to Manchester April 79 C4441 Radcliffe on Trent River Trent bridge newly rebuilt April 80 C4973 David 34 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Radcliffe on Trent River Trent bridge newly rebuilt April 80 C4973.jpg Radcliffe on Trent River Trent bridge newly rebuilt April 80 C4973 David I have never noticed the concrete arches before. Do you know of any pictures of the work being carried out? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 14, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 14, 2016 I have never noticed the concrete arches before. Do you know of any pictures of the work being carried out? I'll have a look. I know Dad walked down there a few times while the work was being done. I think I only saw it on a visit to my parents after it was finished. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Bottesford and Radcliffe on Trent on the GNR line from Grantham to Nottingham for today. Quality wise some are better than others. dc Bottesford South view to GN and LNWR joint line to Melton Mowbray July 83 C6126.jpg Bottesford South. view to GN and LNWR joint line to Melton Mowbray July 83 C6126 j Radcliffe on Trent viaduct from north side May 75 C2053.jpg Radcliffe on Trent viaduct (part of) from north side May 75 C2053 For those who know the area it was taken from the Cliff Walk. Radcliffe on Trent Class 114 Grantham to Nottingham Sept 76 C3014.jpg Radcliffe on Trent Class 114 Grantham to Nottingham Sept 76 C3014 Radcliffe on Trent Class 47 Parkeston Quay to Manchester April 79 C4441.jpg Radcliffe on Trent Class 47 Parkeston Quay to Manchester April 79 C4441 Radcliffe on Trent River Trent bridge newly rebuilt April 80 C4973.jpg Radcliffe on Trent River Trent bridge newly rebuilt April 80 C4973 David Some more nice photos David. The 47 on the Parkeston Quay to Manchester in photo C4441 looks to be one of Stratfords Union Jack pair, 47164. Paul J. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted September 14, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted September 14, 2016 (edited) I've found these photos taken by Dad of the bridge rebuilding work. The first photo is before the work started. Rectory Junction Radcliffe on Trent viaduct Feb 77 J5627 Rectory Junction Radcliffe on Trent viaduct 25320 pw crane Dec 79 J6691 Rectory Junction Radcliffe on Trent viaduct 25320 pw crane Dec 79 J6692 Rectory Junction Radcliffe on Trent viaduct 25320 pw crane Dec 79 J6693 Rectory Junction Radcliffe on Trent viaduct 25320 pw crane Dec 79 J6694 Rectory Junction Radcliffe on Trent viaduct 25320 pw crane Dec 79 J6695 Rectory Junction Radcliffe on Trent viaduct scaffolding removal in progress March 80 J6805 Rectory Junction Radcliffe on Trent viaduct Class 47 Parkeston Quay to Manchester March 80 J6807 Rectory Junction Radcliffe on Trent viaduct Class 47 Parkeston Quay to Manchester March 80 J6808 Rectory Junction Radcliffe on Trent viaduct Class 114 Nottingham to Skegness March 80 J6809 David Edited September 16, 2016 by DaveF 35 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Wow the boat train with a met cam Pullman.. Would it be fair to say the inner cast iron arches were encapsulated in concrete rather than complete replacment? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 14, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 14, 2016 (edited) Wow the boat train with a met cam Pullman.. Would it be fair to say the inner cast iron arches were encapsulated in concrete rather than complete replacment? I believe that the arches were indeed encased in concrete. I think there was something about it in the local newspapers at the time. Edit: I've just looked at the online archive of Railway Magazine and can't find anything there. David Edited September 14, 2016 by DaveF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted September 14, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 14, 2016 Hi, Dave. I like both sets of photo's. That viaduct at Radcliffe on Trent certainly has had an interesting history. After that work had been carried out on it,I would hope that it would then be as good as new. The Metro Cammell Pullman in the boat train is one which has been downgraded to a FO. Hence its appearance in that train, and they would have been used as needed when first class accommodation was required. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 The size of the works doesn't look big enough for full arch replacement. I've never seen anything regarding temporary track layout changes etc for Rectory Junction with regard to single line working. The works appear to be not too intrusive. Fantasstic pictures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted September 14, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 14, 2016 (edited) From its position next to the RB, I presume the Met-Camm is being used as a dining car? Re : the viaduct, I have the 1979 RO, there may just be something about it in there (given the delay in publishing the info) Edited September 14, 2016 by keefer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 A quick search pulled up this text a few times.. ''The bridge’s internal cast iron ribs were encased in concrete by British Rail in 1981 to increase its strength, but the original cast iron ribs on the exterior were left exposed, leaving the appearance of the bridge little changed to this day''. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted September 14, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 14, 2016 Whereas NR would just pull it out and put a concrete slab span instead... Good Old BR could really pull things out of the bag at times.... Andy G 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted September 15, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) Today we look at trains around Great Ponton in the late 60s and very early 70s. Great Ponton is on the ECML to the south of Grantham. Great Ponton Class 47 up ex pass Nov 68 J1504 Great Ponton Class 47 Grimsby to Kings X Nov 70 J2440 Great Ponton Class 47 up Nov 70 J2441 Great Ponton Class 55 9009 up April 71 J2547 Great Ponton Class 31 5674 down iron ore April 71 J2549 David Edited September 15, 2016 by DaveF 30 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted September 15, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 15, 2016 J2549. D5674? Sort that finger out!!!! Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted September 15, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 15, 2016 Hi, Dave. I like the photos from Great Ponton. They are very nostalgic, and I particularly like the one of Deltic 9009. And the class 31 5874 in the last photo would make a great livery variation on a model - green with full yellow ends - I don't recall seeing a model in that livery before. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 15, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 15, 2016 J2549. D5674? Sort that finger out!!!! Mike. Can I blame wearing the wrong specs this time? David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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