Gibbo675 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 6 hours ago, TheSignalEngineer said: A quick update on the D1755 BCK. Test fit of the compartment side. The toilet window is about 1mm too close to the brake doors and should have 2 equal panels on each side according to David Jenkinson's book. Not sure if I can be bothered with all of the cuts to put it right. Hi There, If you hadn't told us we wouldn't have noticed !!!!! Are there such people as Panel Beading Counters as there are Rivit Counters I wonder ? Gibbo. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted October 8, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 8, 2019 Must be getting late, I misread that as 'panel beating counters' 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted October 9, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 9, 2019 17 hours ago, Gibbo675 said: Are there such people as Panel Beading Counters as there are Rivit Counters I wonder ? Just read some of the posts on the Hattons Generic 4-wheeler thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted October 9, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 9, 2019 It always amuses me that for rtr stuff people get so hung up about the minutest of detail, but overlook the narrowness of the gauge and all the compromises that forces. Painted up & whizzing round, no-one will notice a missing mm. 1 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, Stubby47 said: Painted up & whizzing round, no-one will notice a missing mm. that's how I used to plan my Friday nights anyway 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 I popped a couple of noogies over in the 4 and 6 wheel thread, and will now depart from said thread for the remainder of time. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbowilts Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 A nice big wooden spoon for Herr Doktor, please nurse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Nurse only has a plastic spoon, but I'm ok with that... Surely that should be a silver spoon? 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, Dr Gerbil-Fritters said: Nurse only has a plastic spoon, but I'm ok with that... Surely that should be a silver spoon? If ever there was a picture ripe for a risque photoshop, it is this. That said her hand looks like it has been added after the event, the mind boggles what might have been there before. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 3 hours ago, Dr Gerbil-Fritters said: I popped a couple of noogies over in the 4 and 6 wheel thread, and will now depart from said thread for the remainder of time. My dear Fritters, Did you drop your noogies in this fashion ? Troll, troll, troll your quote gently down the page, Ignorance, arrogance, Ignorance, arrogance, Always ends in RAGE !!!! Gibbo. 1 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, TheSignalEngineer said: Just read some of the posts on the Hattons Generic 4-wheeler thread I avoid such threads for fear my brain might start to bleed at the insanity of it all. I may check it out for research and reference purposes though. Gibbo. Edited October 9, 2019 by Gibbo675 Spelling 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 No trolling from me, I merely played the Connoisseur Models card and left quietly. 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Goldfish Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 It's an interesting thread. Standard negative comments as expected by any announcement these days, but overall a largely positive response, and Hattons do seem to be reacting to the creative assistance being provided and altering the cads accordingly. I think I'd enjoy winding Clive up with a rake of these snaking across the throat of Sheffield more than anything in NSE 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, Satan's Goldfish said: I think I'd enjoy winding Clive up with a rake of these snaking across the throat of Sheffield more than anything in NSE Yes! The Jazz Train cometh... 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted October 9, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 9, 2019 8 hours ago, Stubby47 said: no-one will notice a missing mm. I know where it was lost Stu. If you start at the right hand end of the coach the first compartment window is 1mm too narrow. This must have come about by Mainline following the drawing in the Historic Carriage Drawings book, The drawing in the Jenkinson and Essery Pictorial History is correct but the other is wrong. Mainline followed this and it was carried on by Replica and Bachmann. Eric 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted October 9, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 9, 2019 3 hours ago, Dr Gerbil-Fritters said: Yes! The Jazz Train cometh... Anyhow the Jazz Service was out towards Chingford, and Enfield. Not Canning Town that is on the Woolwich line. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzer Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Clive Mortimore said: Anyhow the Jazz Service was out towards Chingford, and Enfield. Not Canning Town that is on the Woolwich line. I thought about that. Notwithstanding the fact that there are no coloured strips of the doors that for some reason gave it the jazz nickname, where was it coming from in order to terminate at Canning Town ? It wouldn’t have started from Woolwich only three miles away, so it presumably is on the Down line from Stratford, but surely it wouldn’t have started from Stratford only two miles away . So where did it come from ? I am not sure if it could have got to Canning Town From Liverpool St without a massive detour so that probably leaves two possibilities. One possibility ( perhaps the most likely one ) is that it came from Palace Gates, as there were through trains from Palace Gates to the North Woolwich branch until P.G. was closed more or less at the end of steam. That’s not a jazz train though. The other possibility that might just qualify it as a Jazz service is that it did indeed originate at Chingford, and picked up the Woolwich branch at , I think Silver Street. In later (post war ) years there was a morning and evening through service from Hertford East to North Woolwich so I guess it’s possible that at the turn of the last century with smaller engines ( with smaller tanks ) it could have run from Chingford or Enfield to Canning Town so by this convoluted reasoning I would suggest to the Rules Committee it could loosely qualify as a jazz service. How about that ? I still can’t work at why it would have been terminating at Canning Town though. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted October 10, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 10, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, jazzer said: I thought about that. Notwithstanding the fact that there are no coloured strips of the doors that for some reason gave it the jazz nickname, where was it coming from in order to terminate at Canning Town ? It wouldn’t have started from Woolwich only three miles away, so it presumably is on the Down line from Stratford, but surely it wouldn’t have started from Stratford only two miles away . So where did it come from ? I am not sure if it could have got to Canning Town From Liverpool St without a massive detour so that probably leaves two possibilities. One possibility ( perhaps the most likely one ) is that it came from Palace Gates, as there were through trains from Palace Gates to the North Woolwich branch until P.G. was closed more or less at the end of steam. That’s not a jazz train though. The other possibility that might just qualify it as a Jazz service is that it did indeed originate at Chingford, and picked up the Woolwich branch at , I think Silver Street. In later (post war ) years there was a morning and evening through service from Hertford East to North Woolwich so I guess it’s possible that at the turn of the last century with smaller engines ( with smaller tanks ) it could have run from Chingford or Enfield to Canning Town so by this convoluted reasoning I would suggest to the Rules Committee it could loosely qualify as a jazz service. How about that ? I still can’t work at why it would have been terminating at Canning Town though. Hi Jazzer Neither can I. Mind you when we done a blood donor session in Canning Town there was a nice cafe there, well nice grub, so may be there was a train load of people wanting to go to the cafe. Edited October 10, 2019 by Clive Mortimore missing to 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted October 12, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 12, 2019 (edited) Not up to too much. Operated the train set yesterday, nothing special. There was a thread about converting Lima class 117 Driving Motor Brake Second into a Driving Motor Second. I have two class 118s with two DMBSs each so this afternoon i now have two DMSs. I am converting one into a class 116, in this mornings research I discovered that only ones with 2 digit route indicators were transferred to the ER. I could make into one with four lights for its headcode display and keep it as a WR or LMR unit. Not decided on the final outcome yet. I am however making a Trailer Composite, all parts cut they just need to be made to size. I could change my mind and have it as a class 117 as I still have an untouched extra center car. The other unit will become a class 118. I will enlarge the heacode box and remove the gangway connectors. The Lima model has lower marker/tail lamps, class 117s did not have these until they were refurbished. All but the first few of the 118s had them from new. This will have to stay as a WR unit. Something a wee bit more bluesie for Mr P. Edited October 12, 2019 by Clive Mortimore 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Such detail. Beyond me to notice it on DMUs but I know why it is important, got to have it right or it will bug you. Richard 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 36 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said: Not up to too much. Operated the train set yesterday, nothing special. There was a thread about converting Lima class 117 Driving Motor Brake Second into a Driving Motor Second. I have two class 118s with two DMBSs each so this afternoon i now have two DMSs. I am converting one into a class 116, in this mornings research I discovered that only ones with 2 digit route indicators were transferred to the ER. I could make into one with four lights for its headcode display and keep it as a WR or LMR unit. Not decided on the final outcome yet. I am however making a Trailer Composite, all parts cut they just need to be made to size. I could change my mind and have it as a class 117 as I still have an untouched extra center car. The other unit will become a class 118. I will enlarge the heacode box and remove the gangway connectors. The Lima model has lower marker/tail lamps, class 117s did not have these until they were refurbished. All but the first few of the 118s had them from new. This will have to stay as a WR unit. Something a wee bit more bluesie for Mr P. Hi Clive, If that is for Tall Paul I have offered him some bodies for him to chop about, I have four in total so if he is good with the saw and glue he is onto a winner and if not he has plenty to go at. Can't loose at that ! Gibbo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted October 12, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 12, 2019 24 minutes ago, richard i said: Such detail. Beyond me to notice it on DMUs but I know why it is important, got to have it right or it will bug you. Richard It is a bit like running generic 4 and 6 wheelers on a pre-group layout, something many will do but not those in the know. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said: It is a bit like running generic 4 and 6 wheelers on a pre-group layout, something many will do but not those in the know. Hi Clive, I've just been looking at that thread, All I could think of was LMS 6 wheel sausage vans, I'm having sausages for tea although I shall be in the kitchen and not in a van. The other use would be crane jib runner as quite a few cranes had six wheeled ones of those too. Gibbo. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted October 12, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Gibbo675 said: Hi Clive, If that is for Tall Paul I have offered him some bodies for him to chop about, I have four in total so if he is good with the saw and glue he is onto a winner and if not he has plenty to go at. Can't loose at that ! Gibbo. Hi Gibbo It was his post that prompted me get me ar$e in gear. I would have offered but, one I do not do commissions only make for mates and, two the abuse I got from the DCC experts when he asked about was it worth going DCC and not staying with DC. I am still trying to drive the track but all I get is the trains moving, don't know what I am doing wrong. 1 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted October 12, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 12, 2019 Just now, Gibbo675 said: Hi Clive, I've just been looking at that thread, All I could think of was LMS 6 wheel sausage vans, I'm having sausages for tea although I shall be in the kitchen and not in a van. The other use would be crane jib runner as quite a few cranes had six wheeled ones of those too. Gibbo. I cooked sausages, mash and beans last night. It was chips and burgers tonight. Anyhow you are clever enough to make your own 6 wheeled chassis. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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