pointstaken Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Those rather sad, rather pathetic, individuals who have to vent their unsubstantiated political opinions on here. Dennis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightengine Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Harold Macmillan. Quite simply because he either did not see (or deliberately ignored) the plainly obvious conflict of interest in appointing Ernest Marples as transport secretary. The Beeching report was given carte blanche by this crook [Marples], blinded by self-interest to the point of criminality, when any number of the closures should have been actively challenged (the railways providing a service to the community anyone?). We are still paying the price for this today; sadly something Macmillan and Marples will never be held to account for. Many years ago I nearly got equal for you. I walked through the 12 car Vep prior to arriving at Victoria and sat in with the driver for the last few minutes. When we stopped I got out the drivers door and as I turned to leave, my huge guards bag on my shoulder, I sent an elderly man, who had just got out of 1st class, spinning. Mac nearly had a tumble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Deltic Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Owners of companies with 'solutions' in the name. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted July 15, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 15, 2014 Harold Macmillan. Quite simply because he either did not see (or deliberately ignored) the plainly obvious conflict of interest in appointing Ernest Marples as transport secretary. The Beeching report was given carte blanche by this crook [Marples], blinded by self-interest to the point of criminality, when any number of the closures should have been actively challenged (the railways providing a service to the community anyone?). We are still paying the price for this today; sadly something Macmillan and Marples will never be held to account for. I quite agree with most of the sentiments but given we're supposed to steer clear of poltics on here and for the sake of balance surely there are those who also should share accountability - namely the politicians who implemented something like two-thirds of the closures during the late 60's. It was no longer a MacMillan govt by then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted July 15, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 15, 2014 Murray Walker, for decades of disservice to motorsport. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
decauville1126 Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 The next cyclist who speeds through the red lights by the clocktower in Brighton and hurls abuse at me, with 15 tons of Scania, coming towards him with the lights in my favour (see thread on pedal cyclists and the law). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanier16 Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Gordon Brown for keeping an eye on the budget!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete 75C Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Murray Walker, for decades of disservice to motorsport. He never did have a coronary whilst commentating, did he? He used to get so worked up, I always thought one was imminent! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium skipepsi Posted July 15, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 15, 2014 Ian Duncan Smith for his services to the sick, terminaly ill and disabled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Claude_Dreyfus Posted July 15, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 15, 2014 I quite agree with most of the sentiments but given we're supposed to steer clear of poltics on here and for the sake of balance surely there are those who also should share accountability - namely the politicians who implemented something like two-thirds of the closures during the late 60's. It was no longer a MacMillan govt by then. Slight divergence to defuse potential arguements... Agreed... Just to quantify my comment, had greater diligence been taken prior to 1964 the precidence would have been set around which lines were closed. I do not suggest for a moment no lines should have been closed, clearly some rationalisation was needed; however the political will at the time was for increased road-building, and a reduction in what was still a victorian railway infrastructure and, in many cases, practices. Having a transport minister who was the Marples in Marples Ridgeway - who had a number of significant road-building contracts in the 1950s and 60s - was even then suggested to be a conflict of interest (cited on a number of occasions in Hansard, especially in relation to Marples' attempts to sell his shares in Marples Ridgeway). The word 'Crook' has been widely used to describe him [Marples] - both in his share dealings and ultimately his fleeing to Monaco in the mid 70s upon allegations of tax evasion. Even some Conservative writers and bloggers are of the opinion that Marples was less than scrupulous (he was also linked with the Profumo scandal). Beeching was an accountant (actually a chemist, but took an accountant's approach (not that accountants are bad people...I'm married to one!)) working to a very narrow brief; he made his recommendations, but the politicans were the ones to add the extra hues of colour and look to more than just financial viability. This did not happen, and the decision to close many of these routes has left many areas wholely reliant on the car. That is a negative legacy of the Macmillan government (perpetuated by the subsequent Wilson government); some of the Hansard reports date from 1960, so it was not as if Macmillan was unaware of the uneasiness around Marples' responsibilities; hence my submission of the Honourable Earl of Stockton to this august list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted July 15, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 15, 2014 hence my submission of the Honourable Earl of Stockton to this august list. But it's only July! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 My Senior colleague has just called across to say she would like to add "Anyone from BT" to the list..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted July 15, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 15, 2014 Ian Duncan Smith for his services to the sick, terminaly ill and disabled. I have a disabled friend who has a house specially adapted for him courtesy of the local council. He is now in arrears with his rent due to the so called 'bedroom tax'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowshunt Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 all of the above!!......and more! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohmisterporter Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 My old school PE teacher who had a muscle for a brain and terrorised me for five years. He must be in his nineties now. I think I could take him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium QWILPEN Posted July 15, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 15, 2014 Oh, and the guy who cancelled Mongrels Fully agree one of the best TV shows from BBC3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium QWILPEN Posted July 15, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 15, 2014 Motorists that drive at 42mph regardless of the speed limit being 20/30/40/50/60/national and regardless of traffic/weather conditions.... HGV / Coach drivers who feel the desperate need to overtake another HGV / Coach on a dual carridgeway or 2 laned motorway just as they approach a hill and then overtake for the next 5 miles at 56mph holding all of the other road users up. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted July 15, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 15, 2014 Liberals, Socialists and do-goers. Stupid, wet lefties, political correctness and those that seem to always suggest that aside from on the sporting front, patriotism is a dirty word! Gordon Brown for keeping an eye on the budget!!! People who cannot read the rules of this site that say NO POLITICS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted July 15, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 15, 2014 People who drive far to close to my front bumper... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelintrev Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Young management "Wheel re-inventors" who cannot / will not understand that skilled & experienced people do actually know what they are talking about! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Those rather sad, rather pathetic, individuals who have to vent their unsubstantiated political opinions on here. Dennis Perhaps I'm being 'a bit thick' here, but opinions are just that - opinions, they do not necessarily have to be substantiated! Mine is as valid as yours, whether you lean to the left or right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nedrahn Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 A rabidly right wing fanatic who chooses to inflict his unpleasant political views on a model railway forum, insulting the name of a great locomotive designer in the process. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol Wilkinson Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Investment bankers, town planners, estate agents and people who have no consideration for how their lifestyle directly affects those around them. On a more local level, those that talk about this hobby being a broad church and then talk about "rivet counters". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted July 15, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 15, 2014 But surely this is a broad church as it encompasses the rivet counters as well as those who use only unmodified r-t-r stock (e.g. me). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightengine Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 My old school PE teacher who had a muscle for a brain and terrorised me for five years. He must be in his nineties now. I think I could take him. My old school PE teacher who had a muscle for a brain and terrorised me for five years. He must be in his nineties now. I think I could take him. I can relate to that. The vicious bxxxxxd PE teacher at a school I attended was similar. I hope he suffered! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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