mattymoose Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Dave, had an email today cancelling my pre-order (OO) as the Class 59 no longer happening? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted July 23, 2015 Author Share Posted July 23, 2015 Dave, had an email today cancelling my pre-order (OO) as the Class 59 no longer happening? Hi mate, yes, unfortunately i have had to withdraw from this model in both scales. Ilve put a full explanation on 'Ask Dave' in this DJM part of the forums. Cheers and sorry Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattymoose Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Dave thats a real shame, many thanks for your reply and your efforts - does mean though I can def afford a Class 71 now ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoovered Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 A real shame as the 59 was the one I was looking forward to most, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold colin penfold Posted July 24, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 24, 2015 Odd, I had one on order and didn't get the email, is it going out in batches? Is there a way for individuals to check the pre orders they have done are registered on the site Dave? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 7013 Posted July 25, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 25, 2015 How short sighted and mean of the companies not to grant the licence, The Class 59 is a superb looking loco, my instinct would be to produce those that had granted a licence, lets face it ingenious modellers could easily produce the missing liveries on their computer. I cannot understand the mentality of theses companies, its a model locomotive for goodness sake not a rival. Our loss as modellers but the companies have lost out on free advertising. Are you going to name and shame Dave? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted July 25, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 25, 2015 How short sighted and mean of the companies not to grant the licence, The Class 59 is a superb looking loco, my instinct would be to produce those that had granted a licence, lets face it ingenious modellers could easily produce the missing liveries on their computer. I cannot understand the mentality of theses companies, its a model locomotive for goodness sake not a rival. Our loss as modellers but the companies have lost out on free advertising. Are you going to name and shame Dave? I suspect Dapol getting the licence might have been an exclusive deal on those liveries? Certain companies like exclusive deals as we've seen with the Eurostar and DRS's class 68's. It's better than what UP tried in America slapping a hefty fee on top too. I assume Dave got beaten to the critical person after the reorganisation as he's quoted previously that there was a hold while they were taken over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tase Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Dapol scanned the class 59 near Shepton Mallet at the end of May. I'm not sure whether these are being produced in 2mm, 4mm scale or both. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted July 25, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 25, 2015 Dapol scanned the class 59 near Shepton Mallet at the end of May. I'm not sure whether these are being produced in 2mm, 4mm scale or both. ... or when ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeharvey22 Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 How short sighted and mean of the companies not to grant the licence, Our loss as modellers but the companies have lost out on free advertising. Are you going to name and shame Dave? Not sure that as quarry and building materials company that I would put much value on advertising on a model train. Passenger operators just maybe, but for heavy industrial freight the buyers of the products know the very few suppliers already. Shame that we miss out on a DJM Class 59 all the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Whether it's reflective of the owning companies values or not who knows, but Mendip Rail (a joint venture between Hanson and Yeoman, now Aggregate Industries) is obviously proud of it's operation with a display case in their reception with a large variety of 4mm models ranging from steam through Westerns, 56s, through to the modern stuff. Back to researching my kit bash I go jo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James90012 Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 It is a shame as it's the only item in the DJ line up that I was interested in. Maybe the 117 but I'm undecided on that yet. Yep at least Dapol would know the market won't be competitive in OO anymore so I would be suprised if they didn't announce a OO version Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sub39h Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 It's a shame this was no longer to be. I was looking forward to owning my first DJ model. If you change your mind you'll still have two sales from me! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reevesthecat Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Over on mremag Simon Martin is stating that Dapol already held the license to produce the liveries before Dave even announced his model. Is this correct? I didn't think Dapol had announced one before Dave but am happy to be corrected. Also if Dave knew someone else held the license for the livery why even announce one? More to the point who is going to announce one in OO now? Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cromptonnut Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I'm happy with my Lima/Hornby 59 - but it sits quietly in its box, unchipped, waiting for the day when someone actually produces something it can pull. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted August 4, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 4, 2015 Over on mremag Simon Martin is stating that Dapol already held the license to produce the liveries before Dave even announced his model. Is this correct? I didn't think Dapol had announced one before Dave but am happy to be corrected. Also if Dave knew someone else held the license for the livery why even announce one? More to the point who is going to announce one in OO now? Mark I would have thought Dapol is the obvious choice. If you want an OO one , as I understand they are only doing an N one at the moment, I'd petition them . Sounds like they may have exclusivity on certain liveries, which effectively prevents any one else bringing one out commercially. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I'm happy with my Lima/Hornby 59 - but it sits quietly in its box, unchipped, waiting for the day when someone actually produces something it can pull. What version do you have? There's RTR options that will work with most... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cromptonnut Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 What version do you have? There's RTR options that will work with most... R3041 in Foster Yeoman livery. Be interested to hear your thoughts as to what should go with it as I've clearly missed something (at least something that is currently available in model shops)... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 R3041 in Foster Yeoman livery. Be interested to hear your thoughts as to what should go with it as I've clearly missed something (at least something that is currently available in model shops)... Ah, currently available is different. A mix of Hornby and Lima PGA's would be applicable...Fox do all the right decals if you need to repaint though that can get expensive unless you can find cheap donors... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cromptonnut Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Yep, "currently" is the problem I am having Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyneux Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Over on mremag Simon Martin is stating that Dapol already held the license to produce the liveries before Dave even announced his model. Is this correct? I didn't think Dapol had announced one before Dave but am happy to be corrected. Also if Dave knew someone else held the license for the livery why even announce one? More to the point who is going to announce one in OO now? Mark Yes this is correct, Dapol announced their 2mm one first on July 18th 2012. I think Dave was still working there at this point? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Yep, "currently" is the problem I am having Bachmann POAs might be more current stock-wise? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cromptonnut Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Bachmann POAs might be more current stock-wise? Unfortunately I can only find pictures of those running behind 56's, not 59's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyneux Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 If you build kits (if not, why not?!?) then you have a quite a choice: DEMU Kits: PTA/JTA/JUA S-Kits: PTA/JTA/JUA S-Kits: PXA S-Kits: JYA (O&K Boxes ) E.g. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Unfortunately I can only find pictures of those running behind 56's, not 59's. Likewise* - though they were working (see Paul Bartlett's pics) out of Westbury so it would seem unlikely it never happened... (*Though in a quick search i'm finding more shots of 59s on shed or on railtours than ones showing a freight train so how reflective of reality the images are is a question...photography approaches of the day etc...from that regard a headboard and a rake of blue and grey Mk1s will sort you out!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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