Wolf27 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Looking at those pictures, it seems to me that the headcode is set well behind the centre window (probably to allow for swapping and lighting)... is that so? In comparison, the version offered by the Other Brand has its headcode much closer to the window. I agree, it looks the same as the Dapol 73 and changes the look of the front end. The Hornby 71 has self adhesive numbers which are fitted externally, which is also not correct but results in a better appearance and also makes it easier to change or apply the characters. I'm guessing that to change the DJM 71 headcodes, the body wil have to come off. Realistically though how many will changes them on a regular basis? Cheers Shane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spannerman Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 (edited) I could resist no longer so gave in and ordered the Hattons GA 71 in blue, now to sort a Kernow 4tc. And maybe a 74 Nik Edited June 21, 2016 by Spannerman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikesndbs Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 OK, ok I need a 74, help me out however were these only ever in BR blue? 74 003 looks interesting. Where do I order it? Cheers Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted June 22, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 22, 2016 Where do I order it? http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/c/1181/DJ-Models Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikesndbs Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Done it 74 003 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil gollin Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 . Over on the Hatton's commissioned models site, on the Class 71 "Golden Arrow" thread, "Hatton's Dave" stated that "mid-September to October release for these is looking likely." Are any other new Class 71 variants likely to turn up at the same time ? . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted June 22, 2016 Author Share Posted June 22, 2016 I think the problem with the 71 head codes is a good point. With the DJModels one you can interchange head and tail codes as much as you want.....even, I suppose, print your own favorite ones to fit. The trade off is that they are behind the glass window, but the benefit is that they are behind the glass window and can be used time and time again. And anyway, isn't behind the window prototypical? Lol Rest assured it's not that far back as you may think as the head code slots in in the front wall of the cab very snugly, as others who have seen the model in the flesh will testify. Cheers Dave 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikesndbs Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Hi, I was just a bit concerned to read that we will need to fit the pickup shoes, will this be an easy job? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Hi, I was just a bit concerned to read that we will need to fit the pickup shoes, will this be an easy job? The mounting holes are visible on the bogies under close inspection. I suspect it's a separate part purely to try and evade damage in transit. Regards, Matt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 The mounting holes are visible on the bogies under close inspection. I suspect it's a separate part purely to try and evade damage in transit. Regards, Matt They are separate parts because Dave has included two types to suit different layouts and the owners' methods of putting their third rail in. Dave has thoughtfully provided us with two different sets of clearances. It may well be that it is better for protection in transit too. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 (edited) It's worth noting here that I received exclusive permission in writing from the Secretary of State for transport to use the golden arrow headboard, logo and arrows for a period of 2 years. Unfortunately due to the protracted model development the deal only has about 5 months left to run, and so Hattons asking for 2 exclusive models is the perfect answer for the license permission. I recently showed Hattons the model in painted form and they were very impressed with it, and have today ordered the 2 models based on the start of the Golden Arrow service and last run of it. Were you able to do the same, for a, "Night Ferry", headboard Dave. Edited June 23, 2016 by David Todd 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted June 23, 2016 Author Share Posted June 23, 2016 Were you able to do the same, for a, "Night Ferry", headboard Dave. image.jpeg The answer comes under 'wait and see' I'm afraid ;-) Cheers Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Budgie Posted June 23, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 23, 2016 (edited) It's all very well having a loco decorated for the Night Ferry, but what about the coaches and luggage vans? I hope that's not a Fourgon conclusion. Edited June 23, 2016 by Budgie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Groan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Dave: I was looking at the pictures of those livery samples again just now, and I know you said there were things to fix up and change (the four speedo cable drives being one you mentioned). Are you also going to get those cabside door handrails straightened up a bit too? They should run parallel to the side profile rather than curving out then back in again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Groan. Shall I call, 111 or999 ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted June 23, 2016 Author Share Posted June 23, 2016 Dave: I was looking at the pictures of those livery samples again just now, and I know you said there were things to fix up and change (the four speedo cable drives being one you mentioned). Are you also going to get those cabside door handrails straightened up a bit too? They should run parallel to the side profile rather than curving out then back in again. Yes indeed. The models were just deco samples and not indicative of the final fit out. Cheers Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Groan. Come on Andy, you can do better than that - get us a groan 'button'! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted June 30, 2016 Author Share Posted June 30, 2016 Hi everyone, I'm delighted to say that since the deco samples came out the other week and were viewed online and at the GCC and Perth shows there has been a large 'spike' in fellow modellers wishing to be part of this wonderful crowdfunding project. With this in mind, and not wanting to snow Kernow down with nothing but orders for the 71 instead if their regular business, I'm extending the cut off date for a further 10 days until Midnight Sunday the 10th of July. This will help those that are undecided, to consider further, but once the cut off date and time is reached, that will be it for the crowd funded models and I will lock down quantities with China and start production. As a further update for you, revised deco samples are in production for me and include a change of roof grey colour, pick up shoe colour, kick plate painting, cab door handle re-pressing to correct the profile, correctly parked fine scale windscreen wipers, changes to the correct semi painted pantograph head, some detail painting of certain pantograph well items, full painting of buffer beam pipe connectors, correct painting of BR blue back ground on works plates (on BR blue versions), change of fuse box colour, and painting of some below chassis detail parts. Sounds a lot, but I expect to be manufacturing within 2 weeks for delivery very soon. Cheers Dave 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted June 30, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 30, 2016 So it's 'Midnight In Camborne' rather then in Moscow ? And there's me ordering a green FYE less than 5 minutes ago thinking the sands of time were running out ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoverPriory Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Very glad to see that orders for your class 71 are flooding in. This must reflect the trouble you have gone to with the model and your open contribution to the dialogue on RM web. Yes lots of us are looking forward to getting our hands on one and are doubtless pleased to hear that production start is imminent. The 'other company' looking to sell OO gauge 71's has given up on arrival dates for its produce it appears. I did have an order for E5001 with them but have canceled and bought another DJM 71 instead......that's three I've put in for! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted June 30, 2016 Author Share Posted June 30, 2016 Very glad to see that orders for your class 71 are flooding in. This must reflect the trouble you have gone to with the model and your open contribution to the dialogue on RM web. Yes lots of us are looking forward to getting our hands on one and are doubtless pleased to hear that production start is imminent. The 'other company' looking to sell OO gauge 71's has given up on arrival dates for its produce it appears. I did have an order for E5001 with them but have canceled and bought another DJM 71 instead......that's three I've put in for! Hi mate, Thank you for that. It's appreciated, it really is. Cheers Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted June 30, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 30, 2016 Very glad to see that orders for your class 71 are flooding in. This must reflect the trouble you have gone to with the model and your open contribution to the dialogue on RM web. Yes lots of us are looking forward to getting our hands on one and are doubtless pleased to hear that production start is imminent. The 'other company' looking to sell OO gauge 71's has given up on arrival dates for its produce it appears. I did have an order for E5001 with them but have canceled and bought another DJM 71 instead......that's three I've put in for! Good for you for choosing the better option ....as I have also done with Hattons and Kernow. But I must point out to you that the competition has just arrived...so where you get the impression that they have given up on arrival dates I cannot imagine.Look on the Hornby topic on this forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted June 30, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 30, 2016 The opposition might have arrived first by a whisker but I'm willing to bet they'll look like Railroad items alongside the better versions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoverPriory Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Good for you for choosing the better option ....as I have also done with Hattons and Kernow. But I must point out to you that the competition has just arrived...so where you get the impression that they have given up on arrival dates I cannot imagine.Look on the Hornby topic on this forum. Yes you are right about 'the other firms' delivery date.............only excuse for missing this is that I've been busy of late decorating, gardening etc and have been skimming through available information. But in all seriousness I really do think the DJM version is going to be way in front in terms of quality........as Gwiwer puts it.............the other model will probably look like a Railroad item! And I am very willing to wait for something good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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