JSpencer Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 (edited) All design is a compromise, so if such parts have to be left for the end user to fit, as to prefit them would have restricted the loco to running on scale curves or being a shelf queen then so be it. This is much more acceptable than compromised blobs which barely look like the thing. Remember, lots of manufacturers have left steps off for user to fit for exactly the same reasons. Edited March 24, 2016 by JSpencer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 But when other manufacturers come up short and leave stuff to be changed or added, or modified, all hell breaks loose ... Not from Me! Caveat Emptor, when I part with my money 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 All design is a compromise, so if such parts have to be left for the end user to fit, as to prefit them would have restricted the loco to running on scale curves or being a shelf queen then so be it. This is much more acceptable than compromised blobs which barely look like the thing. Remember, lots of manufacturers have left steps off for user to fit for exactly the same reasons. Agreed - most of us heretics will still happily run it on track 2.whatever mm too narrow and still be grinning like Cheshire cats ....... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidH Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Dave, I sent you a PM last week. I see on the J94 thread that messages from you to someone else haven't got through, so not sure if my message has been received or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted March 30, 2016 Author Share Posted March 30, 2016 Dave, I sent you a PM last week. I see on the J94 thread that messages from you to someone else haven't got through, so not sure if my message has been received or not. Hi David, No, sorry. I've checked my spam folder too but nothing. Cheers Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptic Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 As promised a fresh set of pics of the DJ Models Class 71. The revised corner taper should be evident in these. DJM_Class_71_Revised_EP_5s.jpg DJM_Class_71_Revised_EP_1s.jpg DJM_Class_71_Revised_EP_2s.jpg DJM_Class_71_Revised_EP_3s.jpg DJM_Class_71_Revised_EP_4s.jpg Firstly, apologies for my absence. Secondly, a belated P.S. This concerns comments / criticisms, made by another, friendly, fellow 'rivet counter' after bringing to my, previously un-noticed, attention that, ..... Those cab doors need slamming shut (If, on the model, they are non-opening. then, they would be closed flush. Any draught is chilling to us southern softies). Also, those front buffer beam 'fairings' corners need to be clouted, from behind, using a, fairly heavy, lump hammer, to bring them in-line with the downward slope of said corners. Regards, Ceptic (Rivet Counters, Inc.) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivegreen Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 This concerns comments / criticisms, made by another, friendly, fellow 'rivet counter' after bringing to my, previously un-noticed, attention that, ..... Those cab doors need slamming shut (If, on the model, they are non-opening. then, they would be closed flush. Any draught is chilling to us southern softies). Also, those front buffer beam 'fairings' corners need to be clouted, from behind, using a, fairly heavy, lump hammer, to bring them in-line with the downward slope of said corners. Regards, Ceptic (Rivet Counters, Inc.) Not sure about the buffer beams, but I have to agree with you on the (seemingly incorrect) recessed look of the doors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidH Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 I had a go at this comparison last week, and tried to send it to Dave. As it isn't working for us by PM, I'll post here. Apologies for the spelling, I didn't notice it until it was too late, and I hadn't the heart to start again. Now, I first should say that I think the moulding of the bogies in particular is first class, and the body is close - so nearly - perfect. I know a lot of hard work has gone into this. Going now to the comparison photo above, and the other photos posted on previous pages, I believe I can see a certain "up and down-ness" to the front end, in fact the corners/edges look completely straight (see image), whereas on the real loco there is a very slight bulge at the waist and then the cab corner curves inwards - the Bulleid coach profile spoken about earlier. (I'm trying to be precise about the description, but I hope the photo above makes this much clearer.) This straightness to the front profile is particularly noticeable at the far end cab of the 3/4 photos - most photos of the real locos taken from a similar angle show the front end curving in on itself. The model has a bit of a wedge look to it. (Please note, I know the cab front slopes back from side on; I'm talking about the 3/4 view, when the curving bodyside profile starts to become apparent.) Of course, I acknowledge that the focal length of the lens used for model/real loco will be different, and what I see may disappear with subtle shifts of angle and camera zoom. The shadow at the top of the body/cab corner, in particular, may simply be an illusion caused by the lighting on the model. Also I agree with Ceptic, the cab doors are recessed (and shouldn't be), and the buffer beam fairings appear to go straight down when they should follow the bodyside curve. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
petee19 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Do we have a possible release date for this model yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoverPriory Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 I note that Hornby have put back the delivery time of their 3 versions of the 71 by a month. So we will see them about Christmas time then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John ks Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Dave Thanks for updating the product progress page on your web site Does this mean we'll see a painted model of the 71 soon? John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted June 5, 2016 Author Share Posted June 5, 2016 Dave Thanks for updating the product progress page on your web site Does this mean we'll see a painted model of the 71 soon? John Yes, or models.......and even a surprise to tempt you all further. Cheers Dave 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
autocoach Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Yes, or models.......and even a surprise to tempt you all further. Cheers Dave Interesting those Budd like units in the background. Definitely not a Bud Lite US prototype. Hmmmmm.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted June 6, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 6, 2016 Yes, or models.......and even a surprise to tempt you all further. Cheers Dave A 71 in NSE stripes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DJM Dave Posted June 15, 2016 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 15, 2016 Hi everyone, Here's a small update for you.... Deco samples have arrived and i'm pleased to say they will be on public display at this weekends GCR event at Quorn in Leicestershire on the Kernow stand. You will also be able to view finished models of the OO J94 and the N gauge Mermaid wagon. I think the grey roof on the green models is too 'Diesel loco grey' for my liking and needs altering. Anyway, high res pics of these will be online on Friday. cheers Dave 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted June 15, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 15, 2016 Dave Looking forward to seeing them. Will you be on your own stand or sharing one with Kernow? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted June 15, 2016 Author Share Posted June 15, 2016 Dave Looking forward to seeing them. Will you be on your own stand or sharing one with Kernow? Hi mate, i'm just there on Saturday chatting to Chris and some of my stockists. if you see me.....and lets face it i'm hard to miss, please come and say hello. cheers Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted June 15, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 15, 2016 Hi mate, i'm just there on Saturday chatting to Chris and some of my stockists. if you see me.....and lets face it i'm hard to miss, please come and say hello. cheers Dave Will keep an eye out for you. If you are passing Banbury during the day, you are welcome to come into our VIP lounge (behind the layout)!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phatbob Posted June 15, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 15, 2016 Will keep an eye out for you. If you are passing Banbury during the day, you are welcome to come into our VIP lounge (behind the layout)!! If space permits, there will be a sofa in our VIP lounge, no kidding! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 From what I can see they look nice. Risking the wrath of all, might I suggest that they look a little dull and could do with more of a satin sheen? Only my own view but I found the finish of the Dapol Westerns (for example) a bit of a let down. Retreating to bunker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Hi mate, i'm just there on Saturday chatting to Chris and some of my stockists. if you see me.....and lets face it i'm hard to miss, please come and say hello. cheers Dave Call in at Hawthorn Dene if you get the chance. Les Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesysmith Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Can I just say nice, I might even get one. This comming from a person who thinks dc power should come from a line overhead not one in the muck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 (edited) Can I just say nice, I might even get one. This comming from a person who thinks dc power should come from a line overhead not one in the muck.Pedant mode alert Err, isn't that why they have (had) a pantograph - Edited June 16, 2016 by leopardml2341 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 A further note on that, should the TOPS numbered ones have pantographs, iirc I don't remember seeing them with? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 (edited) The pantographs weren't removed (unless by accident; Petts Wood's footbridge was responsible for one such removal!), except for those converted to class 74, of course. Edited June 16, 2016 by SRman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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