DJM Dave Posted July 2, 2016 Author Share Posted July 2, 2016 I'm glad to see that the NRM is yet again looking after one of it's none steam locos in their usual way... ie letting it rust away... Shocking.. Andy G Not a lot to say to this comment, apart from it should have been painted 16 months ago but for politics. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted July 2, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 2, 2016 (edited) . Edited November 12, 2016 by 4630 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted July 2, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 2, 2016 Wow Dave, that's really good of you to answer all those questions. Can't see any other manufacturer doing that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium amwells Posted July 3, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 3, 2016 74 duly ordered (on top of the long standing order for a crowd funded 71 and Hattons GA 71). Only mention it as a comment earlier suggested that the 74 take up hasn't been as good. Hopefully good enough to proceed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Just seen Dave's Pre Production sample of the Class 71, WOW! Cleverly designed DCC Sound area is superb, unlike the OTHER MAKE which is 'Limited' in the available space especially if fitting sound. Just for interest we are developing a 'Legomanbiffo' sound unit for this model and aim to demonstrate it in BR Blue Livery fitted with one of our 'supersound speakers' at shows from September. Well done Dave, took some guts to stick up the BIG BOYS but on what I have seen its been worth the effort. Charlie 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikesndbs Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Hi everyone, Had some more questions in overnight on this project and thought, as i have a decent set of pics, i should reply with my reasoning and back up pics of the real thing. Cheers Dave Questions.... 1) I noticed on an ep model you published that the doors were recessed. In real life they were flush. Will you be correcting this? 1a) Yes, this was corrected before the recent decorated samples and is more flush than before. 2) I like the idea of the booster equipment visible behind the centre bodyside glass, will you be doing this? 2a) I like the idea too, but the booster is actually quite far back from the window and there is a walkway between the window and the booster and in fact the booster doesnt extend more than 2 thirds up the window in the 'visible' area so no, i wont be doing a model representation of the booster. However, i am looking at getting the booster painted on the side of the chassis in a darker colour to represent the booster but at a distance (its almost 10mm in scale back from the glass) to represent it in the shadows. 3) Is yours DCC ready? 3a) yes indeed, its 21pin DCC ready and it is very easy to fit a decoder too. In fact its very easy to fit a speaker into as well, as the photo attached shows. 4) There is a panel behind the door either side that is flush with the bodyside, is yours? 4a) Hi, lol, yes indeed. Ironically this has always been flush on the model even if the doors werent (to start with) 5) Will you be selling the wonderful windscreen wipers and separate lamp irons as spares? 5a) Yes i will, hopefully at launch of the model to crowdsourcers and not heavily delayed like the O2 have been. 6) Why are you ending the crowdsourcing of the 71 on the 10th of July, why not have it go on until you release the model? 6a) Hi, the offer ends, to allow me to lock down quantities i need to order from China and to allow a greater deal of exclusivity of numbers as i have promised to never repeat the running number / livery combo of these models, so if 1 model only sells 130 units to crowdsourcers, they in essence have a very limited edition model and makes their wonderful contribution worth more both to themselves and to any collectors should they decide to sell at a later date. 7) Why are you not painting the whole pantograph head the same colour? 7a) in truth i thought about it, but in reality the centre section of the head (the part that contacts the wire when in yards) got very dirty, very quickly, and actually developed a carbon like substance between the raised areas of the head. As this happened in weeks rather than over the years, i decided to paint this area graphite in colour to faithfully match the loco after only a few weeks service. (photo attached) 8) Will you be producing the model with disc wheels rather than spokes? 8b) Yes i will, and at present i know of only 1 loco that had discs (i'm still looking for pictures of others if anyone has them). And it seems discs were only used as a last resort if spoked ones werent available, certainly on the one i'm thinking of. After all, its an important feature to get right. Just sent you a PM re this post Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted July 4, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 4, 2016 A 71 would be totally out of place on my layout, but having heard how good the model is, I've ordered a 74, plus a 4TC for it to pull. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted July 4, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 4, 2016 (edited) A 71 would be totally out of place on my layout, but having heard how good the model is, I've ordered a 74, plus a 4TC for it to pull. I think I was one of the lucky ones who has just had to push my modelling period a bit earlier and not actually have to change much. 2 71s and 2 74s ordered, roll-on delivery! Roy Edited July 4, 2016 by Roy Langridge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted July 4, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 4, 2016 A 71 would be totally out of place on my layout, but having heard how good the model is, I've ordered a 74, plus a 4TC for it to pull. And push 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikesndbs Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 A 71 would be totally out of place on my layout, but having heard how good the model is, I've ordered a 74, plus a 4TC for it to pull. How much did you pay for the 4TC can I ask? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve1023 Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 4TC pre-orders at a penny shy of £270. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikesndbs Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 4TC pre-orders at a penny shy of £270. Steve Holy shhhh, I could have two and a bit 71s for that price! far to high for me that thanks anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikesndbs Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 I need a photo of a 71 with its pan up for my YouTube review video, can anyone help me? Need permission to use etc. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 I need a photo of a 71 with its pan up for my YouTube review video, can anyone help me? Need permission to use etc. Thanks What is the review of Mike? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikesndbs Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 What is the review of Mike? It will be of Dave's 71 once it arrives just doing the background homework now. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 It will be of Dave's 71 once it arrives just doing the background homework now. Ah, I see, the photo you need is if a full size one - makes sense now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRAILRAGE Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 (edited) Really looking forward to my 2 71's arriving. Having a real hardtime with the modellng Mojo right now. Think this might just be what the DR ordered. Thank you Dave for taking a big risk to deliver what are probably the best looking models I will ever own. Except the weathered 74 I've just ordered! Edited July 5, 2016 by TRAILRAGE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Scott Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Dave, Now we are past the deadline can you give any indication for manufacturing time and hence likely delivery Dave Scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted July 11, 2016 Author Share Posted July 11, 2016 Hi Dave, The final figures are being collated and the final order will go to China on Friday. I'll know more after next weekend as I'll know a production slot, production time, and delivery schedule. Bear with me and I'll get back to you and all the other crowdsourcers on here as soon as I have them. Cheers Dave 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted July 15, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 15, 2016 http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/pg/149/DJ-Models-Class-71-Project VERY limited edition weathered ones from Kernow MRC with different numbers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted July 15, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 15, 2016 http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/pg/149/DJ-Models-Class-71-Project VERY limited edition weathered ones from Kernow MRC with different numbers See also here https://grahammuz.com/2016/07/15/kernow-model-rail-centre-announce-weathered-version-of-class-71-in-00 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ryde-on-time Posted July 15, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 15, 2016 Wow, those weathered ones do look stunning IMHO the weathering really shows off just how fine the bogie detail is Looks like I'll finally succumb and be ordering a blue one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funtleyworks Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 The weathered ones look amazing. In all honesty a truly wonderful loco. As good as the Hornby one is this looks a step up. What can we expect next Dave? A decent Crompton?!!!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted July 16, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 16, 2016 The weathered ones look extremely tempting though I have committed already to one more 71 than I have any use for purely on the basis of it looking rather nice and being a mite different to anything else. I already have a weathered 74 on order. Hmmmmmmmm ............... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 I know it did happen that they got dirty, but all my memories of green ones are that they were quite clean and shiny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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