RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted September 6, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 6, 2014 Already pre-ordered a BR late crest job but since I'm on the verge of putting together a c1949/50 mixed rake of passenger stock I'm seriously tempted by one of the early BR period offerings. Said combo won't really be for a layout, more as a display piece once my back room 'modelling space' is replastered, decorated and shelved. Despite the post-war gloom, Paddington must have been a strangely colourful place back then with blue Kings, a smattering of chocolate & cream remnants with 'W' prefixed running numbers amongst the passenger rolling stock, with newly painted blood & custard examples in the mix. Nigh on irresistable! I knew I should have left those Jim Russell carriage books in the box last week... Well yes,it was.....underneath the grime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
60800 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 1971 KGV - order switched. All three as preserved - perfect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted September 6, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 6, 2014 I have preordered all the BR versions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRealistic Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Think it's time for me to 'unfollow' this topic now that it's become a 'pre-orderers' message board... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 7013 Posted September 8, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 8, 2014 The games afoot given Hornby's announcement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 The games afoot given Hornby's announcement Yes, it will be interesting to see who is first and who has the better model in the end. "Speed to the West" is on. Hattons/DJModels will still likely offer a broader range of liveries, though Hornby coming out with three (almost certainly four) with probably additional liveries over the years is no slouch either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mow Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 The games afoot given Hornby's announcement The game's afoot: Follow your spirit, and upon this charge Cry 'God for Harry, England, and Saint George!' King Henry V 6019 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I must admit having seen the cad/cam and looked at the spec, I'm not unduly concerned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadnought05 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Probably will get a Hornby one, but still gonna get one (or more?!) from Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted September 8, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 8, 2014 Dave, if Hattons made a business decision and decided not to go head to head would you be happy to switch to another prototype? I think a loco with equal standing and maybe more resonance for a north western retailer would be the Princess Royal. 2 preserved, multiple liveries and plenty of detail variations. The current Hornby model would be easy to usurp...................... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronny Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Good luck to everyone - here's hoping Dave, Hornby & Hattons all make a shed load of money!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Dave, if Hattons made a business decision and decided not to go head to head would you be happy to switch to another prototype? I think a loco with equal standing and maybe more resonance for a north western retailer would be the Princess Royal. 2 preserved, multiple liveries and plenty of detail variations. The current Hornby model would be easy to usurp......................Hi mate, If that unlikely circumstance came about I'd produce whatever the customer wants! Cheers Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 838rapid Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Any chance of a O Gauge version of the King, Dave?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Any chance of a O Gauge version of the King, Dave?? Not from me, remember this is a Hatton's model, designed and supplied by me, but it's their model. Cheers Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 838rapid Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Ah I see,no worries. Thanks for reply though Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 7013 Posted September 8, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 8, 2014 Cat is certainly amongst the pigeons, I have decided to stay with Dave's model because I still believe it will have the edge and the price is comparable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
60800 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I'll be firmly sticking with DJ models too - regardless of announced numbers, liveries and era variants, I'm not convinced by the Hornby CAD. A King should look bulky and elegant; not ungainly. The front bogie in it's entirety on the Hornby CAD is a complete turn off for me. The price is not too different and the DJ models spec is superior. Thanks for providing an uplifting alternative Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I'll be firmly sticking with DJ models too - regardless of announced numbers, liveries and era variants, I'm not convinced by the Hornby CAD. A King should look bulky and elegant; not ungainly. The front bogie in it's entirety on the Hornby CAD is a complete turn off for me. The price is not too different and the DJ models spec is superior. Thanks for providing an uplifting alternative Dave Hi mate, well I've got more things in mind for this model too. Cheers Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Does "Sprung front bogie" mean it is sprung only in a single place and in the vertical direction? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Not from me, remember this is a Hatton's model, designed and supplied by me, but it's their model. Cheers Dave Hi Dave, Do you have a way of preventing light showing too much over the front wheels? A bit of an issue with a lot of 00 GW 4-cylinder models with inside cylinders and motion over the front of the bogie, and still having clearances for model curves. All the best, Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Hi Dave, Do you have a way of preventing light showing too much over the front wheels? A bit of an issue with a lot of 00 GW 4-cylinder models with inside cylinders and motion over the front of the bogie, and still having clearances for model curves. All the best, Rob I think that in this last week, competitors using our spec for the King, have had a chance to up their game and alter things accordingly. With this in mind I think it best if I keep quiet about the development of the Hatton's King, and features and level of detail it will have. Needless to say I think the £10.00 difference will be viewed by many as the best 'extra' £10.00 they have spent on a model! Cheers Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Harvey Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 To Be honest after the "Duke of Gloucester" if I wanted a quality model of a Classic British Steam Loco I wouldn't buy one from Hornby who ever has commissioned the model, So Dave's model will get my vote and Hatton's my money when they are ready. Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 This is probably the cheaky curiousty question for which I guess there may not be a reply (and I respect that) but..... were you or Hattons aware that Hornby had a King on the drawing board before Hattons made their annoucement? Good luck with the project anyway and I agree the new red King does look narrow although maybe that is because the old model looked wide! Also what colour box do you have in mind? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Hi mate, well I've got more things in mind for this model too. With this in mind I think it best if I keep quiet about the development of the Hatton's King, and features and level of detail it will have. Quite a remarkable 30-minute U-turn in PR approach! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Quite a remarkable 30-minute U-turn in PR approach! Not really, as I've said I have things in mind, but not what! Simple really! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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