Gerald Henriksen Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Current example of what Rapido does in N can be found on their Facebook page (available to non-Facebook viewers) showing their latest North American model coming soon: https://www.facebook.com/rapidotrains/photos/a.111655425586997.24923.109954372423769/841664419252757/?type=1&permPage=1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmthtrains - David Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Incredible, more detail on this than the Hornby one! David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucazone Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 When the name voting closed, my choice didn't make the cut. Just want to check I haven't missed the chance to make my choice from the final line up? I've not seen any comms about it yet. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike Posted July 22, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 22, 2015 Nothing to worry about - we've just been busy with "proper" jobs and checking lots of CAD! We'll be in touch with people in plenty of time. Cheers, Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucazone Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Thanks Mike. Keep up the good work. Bread and butter first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu from EGDL Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 (edited) Mike/Ben, After seeing 390104 (Alsthom Livery) at Carlisle at the weekend, I've kind of gone off this as one of my choices. Hopefully, I can change this one to a more mainstream 390/1 along with the other 390/1 I have to choose anyway as 390130 City of Edinburgh didn't make the cut. The Poppy Pendo stays safe though.... Later, Stu from EGDL.... Edited July 23, 2015 by Stu from EGDL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted July 24, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 24, 2015 Mike/Ben, After seeing 390104 (Alsthom Livery) at Carlisle at the weekend, I've kind of gone off this as one of my choices. Hopefully, I can change this one to a more mainstream 390/1 along with the other 390/1 I have to choose anyway as 390130 City of Edinburgh didn't make the cut. The Poppy Pendo stays safe though.... Later, Stu from EGDL.... Hi Stu, The website will soon be ready for people to order specific models, so you can change then. However, I do wonder whether the Alstom version is one of those items that looks better as a model than as the real thing! I feel the Class 70 is a bit like that! Cheers Ben A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted July 24, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 24, 2015 Hello all, Apologies for the odd timing of this post but I'm abroad at the moment. However, we are keen to move forward with the CADs of the Pendolino so here are some more images for comment. The bogies are pretty much there now. The dampers are separate parts to allow the bogie frames to be correctly recessed... The PTF and PTSRMB vehicles have now had the pantographs added. These are plastic mouldings, and poseable, rather than sprung, since we felt that more people operate their models without contact wires than with!! We'd like to thank Brecknell Willis who sent us excellent drawings of the real thing to help us get this right. There are still a couple of mods to the collector needed - the ends should be less angular - but I think we are definitely getting there. As ever any feedback or comment appreciated. Cheers Ben A. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDP4D Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Thanks Ben, those CAD's look fabulous. Will the pantograph be available as a spare? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted July 24, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 24, 2015 Hi Ben. All looking good so far, and really nice to see an accurate and scale pantograph in N Gauge finally! Tom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike Posted July 24, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 24, 2015 Thanks Ben, those CAD's look fabulous. Will the pantograph be available as a spare? I don't know how much demand there would be for them as though they are based on the Brecknell Willis HS they are actually unique to the Pendolino IIRC. Cheers, Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDP4D Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 I don't know how much demand there would be for them as though they are based on the Brecknell Willis HS they are actually unique to the Pendolino IIRC. Cheers, Mike Indeed, but the pantograph could still be used by others with a modified base. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted July 24, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 24, 2015 Hi WDP4D, We will see what we can do. As Mike says, because this panto is designed specifically for the Pendolino (which tilts) there are some parts that are different to other high speed pantos in use. The visible differences seem, to me, to be around the base of the unit and the positioning of the aerofoils. Once we are approaching the actual point of commissioning production it may be we can arrange to produce a few additional pantos as separate items for a limited number who want them, but supplying them as an "official" separate item would create a need for packaging etc. Let's revisit this nearer the time. Cheers Ben A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted July 24, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 24, 2015 Hi WDP4D, We will see what we can do. As Mike says, because this panto is designed specifically for the Pendolino (which tilts) there are some parts that are different to other high speed pantos in use. The visible differences seem, to me, to be around the base of the unit and the positioning of the aerofoils. Once we are approaching the actual point of commissioning production it may be we can arrange to produce a few additional pantos as separate items for a limited number who want them, but supplying them as an "official" separate item would create a need for packaging etc. Let's revisit this nearer the time. Cheers Ben A. Is it going to be delicate enough that spares may be needed aswell for those of us who might get carried away running it on layouts that dont really have clearance for the panto' up?? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeharvey22 Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Is it going to be delicate enough that spares may be needed aswell for those of us who might get carried away running it on layouts that dont really have clearance for the panto' up?? Been there, done that just yesterday with a Minitrix SNCF BB22200 under a newly installed parapet. Doh! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmthtrains - David Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 While everyone involved in this project deserves huge rounds of applause almost daily in my opinion, I'd like to give an extra clap or two for the unnamed genius who manages to wrestle Solidworks into producing such beautiful CAD creations. In my experience its not an easy program to love, and Rapido obviously have some very talented designers on their books! David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu from EGDL Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Hi Gang, Add me in a handful of pantographs, for spares and repairs... I'm bound to break at least 2 out of 6 over the three models, especially when you have to lower the front pan and raise the rear pan every time you change direction!!! Later, Stu from EGDL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Adam1701D Posted July 26, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 26, 2015 I could see an immediate need for about 6 pantographs for my current home fleet and a lot of potential sales if made available for, say, N-Train EMU kits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapidotrains Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 While everyone involved in this project deserves huge rounds of applause almost daily in my opinion, I'd like to give an extra clap or two for the unnamed genius who manages to wrestle Solidworks into producing such beautiful CAD creations. In my experience its not an easy program to love, and Rapido obviously have some very talented designers on their books! David Thanks, David. That's really appreciated. We do indeed have some very talented people on staff. We've also had help from some Pendo experts who prefer to remain nameless. Without them, we could not get this done with anything approaching this level of accuracy. -Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davepallant Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Been there, done that just yesterday with a Minitrix SNCF BB22200 under a newly installed parapet. Doh! I've also wiped out the pantograph on a Hornby 92 running it on a layout with OHLE but which was not smooth enough for the lightweight Hornby pantograph they fit on the 92. If a thin lightweight pantograph like the Baby Pendo one does get caught on something accidentally then it will get torn off. I agree that spares for the pantograph need to be available but I think that there will need to be a other spares for the Pendolino held and sold by someone even if the Revolution guys are not able to spend the time doing it. Maybe set up an official spares dealer supplied with adequate stock in the way that Dapol and others outsource spares now. Couplings, chassis, motors, nosecones that sort of stuff. The bits that could get lost, broken or badly customised and either need replacing straight away or repaired when purchased/sold second hand. Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted July 31, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 31, 2015 Hello all, We are reaching the approval phase for the CAD drawings. This is coach U - in the 653XX range - which is one of the two vehicles that were manufactured later to strengthen the 9-car sets to 11-car sets. These ones have a pantograph well but no pantograph. The part at far right is simply the coupler from the adjoining vehicle to allow the designer to check clearances, the kinematic envelope etc. This exploded drawing of the same vehicle shows the fit of the bodyshell and the seating unit - however the seats shown are an older version. This is Coach J, a Motor First in the 694XX series: The Pantograph on the PTF and PTSRMB has been chanrged to more accurately depict the high speed tilting Brecknell Willis unit developed for the Pendolono: Please ignore the "shine" on the windows that make them the same colour as the bodyshell - all vehicles will have separate glazing of course. Finally, the cab interior. Sorry there's no driver - but the postioning of the desks, seats etc looks right! cheers Ben A. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted July 31, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 31, 2015 Hello all, Just a couple more showing the revised pantograph CAD and some improvements now made to the pantograph well of the cars. I believe this pantograph differs from "standard" high speed pantographs because the base is asymmetric. cheers Ben A. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDP4D Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Great stuff....Good thing no driver is added. Always a better move to let the customer do that. Otherwise we may have one driver at one end only driving from the wrong cab. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted August 1, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 1, 2015 Super stuff Ben! All looks spot on to my eyes. Looking forward to seeing the driving vehicles. Tom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireflashfive Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 It's all starting to get very exciting! I'm really enjoying seeing the CAD updates for the Pendolino. As an aside, I noticed on the Gaugemaster website, they are taking orders for the Kato Eurostar 8 car set and the 4 car add-on set. Interestingly they also list the model in the new Eurostar livery too. I've had the original livery Eurostar for many years and it has always run beautifully. I may have to dip in and get a new livery one too. With this and the Pendolino, modern N scale EMU's are certainly getting the boost they deserve! Doug. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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