bike2steam Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 A tip of dulling down bright pipes. Use acrylic paint diluted in water with a minor touch of Fairy Liquid and capillary action should draw the mix around the back of the pipe and pipework in awkward places. A good tip 'coach', 40+ years in the hobby, and still learning, I hadn't thought of that one - thanks, so I withdraw my comment in post # 236 . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted October 9, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 9, 2015 http://s3.freefoto.com/images/809/26/809_26_5288_web.jpg I wonder what happened to the flared top tender it had originally? Did any of the preserved ones have one? Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 S15 with BR early emblem now appearing in retailers, my local shop had their delivery today. Good day for me, S15 and Kernow BR O2 as well, managed to hide from swmbo, for my own health of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted October 9, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 9, 2015 I wonder what happened to the flared top tender it had originally? Did any of the preserved ones have one? Keith Many locos came out of Woodham's yard with different tenders to those with which they arrived and further purchases/swaps have, no doubt, occurred since! This particular loco seems to have been shared around various interested parties when it came out of Barry. According to Mr Swift's book, the boiler went to the Mid-Hants for No.506 in 1981 and the frames/wheels to Shipyard Services, Essex in 1986, from whence it was presumably resurrected. Neither transaction appears to have involved a tender. 30825's original tender (3222) was exchanged with that from 30826 (3223) at Eastleigh in 1963. The latter loco was then cut on site, presumably along with tender 3222. 825 as preserved must therefore be something of a Bitza and may not include very much of the loco that BR owned. The boiler, tender, and possibly more came from 841 which effectively no longer exists. No doubt someone can provide a fuller explanation but 825's most recent restoration looks like a case of making one good loco up out of two. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I wonder what happened to the flared top tender it had originally? Did any of the preserved ones have one? Keith I believe the 3 S15's based at the Mid Hants Railway, are paired with flared top tenders or varying patterns. Urie S15 30499 - Under Resteration - 5,000 Gallons Urie S15 30506 - Under Overhaul - 5,000 Gallons Maunsell S15 30828 - Under Overhaul - 4,840 Gallons Regards, Matt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
locoholic Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 From Peter Cooper's book on the Maunsell S15s, there is only one flush-sided 8 wheel tender left, which came from Barry with 841, and is now behind 825. The 6 wheel tender that was with 847 in Barry was sold separately to go with a mogul. I bought the Hornby model of 30843 today. It's a lovely model, which will look even better when I get around to weathering it. However, I do wonder whether, if it had been painted green, I would have been able to tell it apart from a King Arthur. (It was the same when I saw Tornado and Blue Peter together at Barrow Hill.) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaymzHatstand Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 I had a good look at 30843 in Monk Bar Models (York) today, and have to admit, it's a lovely model! I was very close to taking one home for conversion onto 841, but the moulded smokebox number plate would be a heck of a challenge to get rid of while retaining the distinctive conical shape of the prototype. Hopefully a future release will be a suitable doner (or ready done version!) Cheers J Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted October 10, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 10, 2015 I had a good look at 30843 in Monk Bar Models (York) today, and have to admit, it's a lovely model! I was very close to taking one home for conversion onto 841, but the moulded smokebox number plate would be a heck of a challenge to get rid of while retaining the distinctive conical shape of the prototype. Hopefully a future release will be a suitable doner (or ready done version!) Cheers J The smoke box door comes off quite easily, you could always use the smoke box door off a Schools or King Arthur (with a bit of tweaking). If you can find a spare body relatively cheaply on ebay.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted October 10, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 10, 2015 The S15 is one of the real highlights of the current new release pipeline for me, fantastic news they are out in the shops and even better that it looks like Hornby have done a good job. Can't wait to receive mine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Godfrey Glyn Posted October 10, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 10, 2015 Picked up the early BR version at Alton yesterday afternoon, soon after they been delivered. Paul tested it - he always does this as a matter of course before a loco leaves the shop - and it ran sweetly straight from the box. IMHI it's a really beautiful model and Hornby deserve great credit for producing such a masterpiece. I only ever saw them in their 'weathered state' but I will have to summon up significant levels of bravery before attacking mine with the airbrush, it really is a most impressive model. Really looking forward to the Radial, the Merchant Navy and the ex-LSWR coaches now. Godfrey 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted October 10, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 10, 2015 I don't think anyone's mentioned it yet, but the fall plate is moveable - a first for a Hornby Steam loco. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike2steam Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 I only ever saw them in their 'weathered state' - Godfrey Likewise, but, like the W's, they only seemed to be in an all over grey, not degenerating into rust colour while they were working, it'll be interesting how modellers will interpret it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 I never saw a grey loco in steam day, well certainly not a straight grey. The overall weathering coat had a sandstone or rust tinge as might be expected considering a loco is basically a kettle of boiling water running on rusty steel rails. Other colours from various sources only stood out when close-up, otherwise they were 'feathered' into the overall scene. The only weathering with sharp edges was priming oil and washout plug leaks. A form of weathering impossible to replicate without making the model look like crap was paint on top of flaking paint. This occurred over many years and was particularly noticeable on smokebox doors due to them (and the smokebox) getting a regular coat of paint on shed when rust started after a burn-up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike2steam Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Interesting, but at the moment the only example I can find of 'Feltham grey' is the colour pic of W 31912 on Feltham shed in the 'Locomotives Illustrated' magazine number 18. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted October 10, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 10, 2015 I don't think anyone's mentioned it yet, but the fall plate is moveable - a first for a Hornby Steam loco. They usually move to the "Fallen-off" position" Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
neal Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Picked one up on Friday, it's a real gem! Beautifully smooth, you get a feel for the flywheel effect by lifting the loco (with tender still on the rails) then running at moderate speed and changing direction. The torque on the loco in noticeable. It runs well, however front steps preclude third radius curves. These are however a reasonable interference fit, so can be inserted for display, then removed for running on layouts with tighter bends/points. Only minor flaw was the handrail wire which appears slightly over length to both sides of the boiler. This wouldn't slide in the end handrail knobs, thus sprang the middle knobs out of their holes. A touch of cyano to each solved this, although the handrail is now slightly in compression. N Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted October 11, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 11, 2015 Certainly is a handsome loco.. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Thankyou Toboldlygo your picture has caused me to buy one of these models. <g> I notice the SR version even has a vacuum pump on the crosshead slide, where will it all end? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted October 11, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 11, 2015 I'd say the major discernible difference between an N15 and an S15 is the lack of wheel splashes on the S15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted October 12, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 12, 2015 I'd say the major discernible difference between an N15 and an S15 is the lack of wheel splashes on the S15 That would be down to the smaller diameter driving wheels on the Freight 'Arthur' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted October 12, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 12, 2015 Thankyou Toboldlygo your picture has caused me to buy one of these models. <g> I notice the SR version even has a vacuum pump on the crosshead slide, where will it all end? Probably when I renumber & recrest 30843..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 I never saw a grey loco in steam day, well certainly not a straight grey. The overall weathering coat had a sandstone or rust tinge as might be expected considering a loco is basically a kettle of boiling water running on rusty steel rails... One of Norman Lockett's colour pictures has this to perfection on an S15 in direct sunlight. Overall the loco and tender are in a smoothly transitioning range of grey-brown tones. The brown element more in evidence below footplate where the brake and track dust concentrates, becoming greyer as height increases. The front bufferbeam just hints at the red under the filth, and there's a nice rusty patch somewhat filthed over on the tender side. Those last two are difficult effects to get right too. I don't think anyone's mentioned it yet, but the fall plate is moveable - a first for a Hornby Steam loco. They usually move to the "Fallen-off" position" If the construction is much as Bachmann have been using since the G2A was introduced, then I would be more optimistic, as to date all the models with this feature that I own have proved robust in service (G2A, 3F, C, O4, J11, C1). The locos do go on track and stay there though, no in and out of boxes. Examination of the S15 underside in the pictures up thread shows the wipers on the loco drivers are arranged much in the style of Bach steam loco wiper pick up, short and neatly curved behind the wheel rim. First saw this on the K1. Much preferable to the inherited practise from Margate, the 'could we make it any longer?' style of pick up wiper. I think there has been some knowledge transfer with Bachmann's closure of the former Sanda Kan operations, and Hornby's taking up with several smaller businesses as manufacturing suppliers. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty.J Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Certainly is a handsome loco.. 30843_lh.jpg Looks stunning. I am waiting to see a SR version. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDJR7F88 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Still await the arrive of my S15. Back to work tomorrow, so have to wait another week until I can get me hands on it... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted October 12, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 12, 2015 If the construction is much as Bachmann have been using since the G2A was introduced, then I would be more optimistic, as to date all the models with this feature that I own have proved robust in service (G2A, 3F, C, O4, J11, C1). The locos do go on track and stay there though, no in and out of boxes. Examination of the S15 underside in the pictures up thread shows the wipers on the loco drivers are arranged much in the style of Bach steam loco wiper pick up, short and neatly curved behind the wheel rim. First saw this on the K1. Much preferable to the inherited practise from Margate, the 'could we make it any longer?' style of pick up wiper. I think there has been some knowledge transfer with Bachmann's closure of the former Sanda Kan operations, and Hornby's taking up with several smaller businesses as manufacturing suppliers. It is assembled a bit like a one of those from the Blue Corner, the hinge mechanism on the fall plate is very similar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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