Horsetan Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Goutmaster ..... A retailer getting too big for its boots? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 A retailer getting too big for its boots? We always called them that when I used work for - what they called - "The shoe box" (Signal box Rochester). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ruggedpeak Posted October 6, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 6, 2015 Early BR now in stock http://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/br-4-6-0-maunsell-s15-class-early-br.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bigherb Posted October 8, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2015 It's arrived. Looks to be all present and correct after it's trip up the M2. After a quick check over I must say I am mightily impressed. It a smooth runner straight out of the box although the twin flywheels don't seem to have any noticeable improvement over the older N15 but like the N15 it is still a great motor able to start eight Mk1's in a easily controlled, slow linear manner. Comes with a bag of cylinder drain cocks, front steps, brake rigging and steam heat pipes, vac pipes are pre-fitted. I'll let some pictures do the talking. Nice Cab It might, might not have the right amount of rivets I'm not counting them. Tender has the usual removable coal load, although the uprights come away with it. Adjustable tender coupling with a screw. Tender pick ups and looks like there is space for a big speaker if you need one. 24 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Handsome. Looks good on screen at O gauge size which says something, and gets the appearance very successfully. Now Hornby, there's a very similarly sized NER mixed traffic 4-6-0 just begging for the same treatment. A query if I may. The factory ident.on the box sleeve? (Guessing at TEC05 as it has features in common with the K1.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigherb Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 A query if I may. The factory ident.on the box sleeve? (Guessing at TEC05 as it has features in common with the K1.) No this one is LOT01 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Looks a very impressive model. Is that I slight hump in the running plate. I hope its just the motion hanger pushing things up a bit and easy to fix, unlike the K1... Bring on an SR liveried, straight sided tender that I can renumber to 847 (or just 847 in Hornby's 2016 catalogue...?)! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigherb Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Is that I slight hump in the running plate. I hope its just the motion hanger pushing things up a bit and easy to fix, unlike the K1... Not that I could easily detect with the MK1 eyball. But a straight edge and feeler gauges gives 0.2mm upward curve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 (edited) Thanks for posting the pictures bigherb. The model looks superb and Hornby has made a come-back with a vengeance.. All it needs now is a loud clanking chonker chip... Edited October 8, 2015 by coachmann 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spannerman Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Thanks for posting, this looks a great model. Think I might have to treat myself to an SR one for my upcoming birthday. Nik Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike2steam Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 In the pics the black paintwork looks in a nice slight work-worn matt finish, so why oh why is the brass, and copper pipework in ex-works ??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PhilH Posted October 8, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 8, 2015 In the pics the black paintwork looks in a nice slight work-worn matt finish, so why oh why is the brass, and copper pipework in ex-works ??? Aren't they damned if they do, damned if they don't here....if they weathered it most on here would be going on about how bad that weathering is. This forum has form when it comes to this subject.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 (edited) Phil is right..... Is it beyond today modellers to tone it down with a diluted wash? I'll bet people would be quite talented if they learned to use a spoon. Edited October 8, 2015 by coachmann 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted October 8, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 8, 2015 It's arrived. Looks to be all present and correct after it's trip up the M2. After a quick check over I must say I am mightily impressed. It a smooth runner straight out of the box although the twin flywheels don't seem to have any noticeable improvement over the older N15 but like the N15 it is still a great motor able to start eight Mk1's in a easily controlled, slow linear manner. Comes with a bag of cylinder drain cocks, front steps, brake rigging and steam heat pipes, vac pipes are pre-fitted. I'll let some pictures do the talking. Nice Cab It might, might not have the right amount of rivets I'm not counting them. Tender has the usual removable coal load, although the uprights come away with it. Adjustable tender coupling with a screw. Tender pick ups and looks like there is space for a big speaker if you need one. Thanks for posting the pics bigherb. Mine's just been taken out of the box (just got in from work). I'm very impressed with it - apart from a loose smoke box door, still it does allow you to see one of the flywheels! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Abel Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Thanks for posting the pictures it looks brilliant - of course they DO make waiting for the Late Crest one that much harder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaymzHatstand Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Well, it certainly does look superb, and I'm very tempted indeed! From those who know about such things, how well would any of the current catalogue listed variants match the configurations of either of the two to have run on the NYMR? 841 would have to be done from the early crest version as supportive suggested earlier, into 'Southern' lettering, whereas 824 could feasibly be a renumber of the green version yet to be delivered. I'm not toos sure about tender combinations and such for accuracy, or for that matter other fittings, so if anyone can shed any light on such things, i'd be most grateful! Cheers J Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Downer Posted October 9, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 9, 2015 (edited) Well, it certainly does look superb, and I'm very tempted indeed! From those who know about such things, how well would any of the current catalogue listed variants match the configurations of either of the two to have run on the NYMR? 841 would have to be done from the early crest version as supportive suggested earlier, into 'Southern' lettering, whereas 824 could feasibly be a renumber of the green version yet to be delivered. I'm not toos sure about tender combinations and such for accuracy, or for that matter other fittings, so if anyone can shed any light on such things, i'd be most grateful! Cheers J 30823-32. Stepped bogie tender30833-7 Six-wheeled tender 30838-47 Flat-sided bogie tender Into the 60s, and in preservation, tenders were no doubt swapped around. Edited October 9, 2015 by Downer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Well, it certainly does look superb, and I'm very tempted indeed! From those who know about such things, how well would any of the current catalogue listed variants match the configurations of either of the two to have run on the NYMR? 841 would have to be done from the early crest version as supportive suggested earlier, into 'Southern' lettering, whereas 824 could feasibly be a renumber of the green version yet to be delivered. I'm not toos sure about tender combinations and such for accuracy, or for that matter other fittings, so if anyone can shed any light on such things, i'd be most grateful! Cheers J Hornby's 30843, by the looks of the pictures above, has a small cover on the smokebox (that is plating over a previous valve???). 841, certainly in preservation, does not have this cover. One assumes that as smokeboes were replaced, the new smokeboxes did not have redundent holes. Possibly might be correct for a renumber to 841 as in Southern service (but don't know for sure), but details seem incorrect for preservation... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivegreen Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Those 'small cover on the smokebox' covered where the snifting valves were removed in later SR days (and possibly in the BR era). As you suggest, 841 as it is today has most likely had its smokebox (or the latter's outer plating) plating replaced. As for details being incorrect for the preserved version, I doubt whether the real 841 has a huge automatic coupler on each end either…... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
145 Squadron Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Looking at toboldlygo's excellent pictures of the tender one water filler is facing one way, the other seems reversed - is this correct? If not, which way should they face? Thanks Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted October 9, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 9, 2015 Looking at toboldlygo's excellent pictures of the tender one water filler is facing one way, the other seems reversed - is this correct? If not, which way should they face? Thanks Tony Not my photo's they are bigherbs.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty.J Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Looking at toboldlygo's excellent pictures of the tender one water filler is facing one way, the other seems reversed - is this correct? If not, which way should they face? Thanks Tony http://s3.freefoto.com/images/809/26/809_26_5288_web.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike2steam Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Phil is right..... Is it beyond today modellers to tone it down with a diluted wash? I'll bet people would be quite talented if they learned to use a spoon. True enough, but some times it can be a sod to take the boiler, and the below cab pipework off to paint all round it properly. Shouldn't the water feed pipe from injector to boiler be copper not brass? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 (edited) True enough, but some times it can be a sod to take the boiler, and the below cab pipework off to paint all round it properly. Shouldn't the water feed pipe from injector to boiler be copper not brass? The pipe itself was copper. It is less liable to snap in the bending bars when being shaped. This applies generally to larger diameter pipes. Polished pipes were a characteristic of Southern locos in particular, although they tarnished if not attended to. The valve casing must have been brass, although loco crews removed the black paint on shed. Such polished embellishments were a lot more common towards the end of a locos working life as it/they became celebrities. I have looked at pictures of Class 02's stationed on the Isle of Wight as shopped in the late 1950's and the brass and copper was painted black compared with the position later on. That said, some IOW 02's were clearly neglected by the very end (this was pretty obvious on a 'Railway roundabout' programme that covered the line over a period of a years or two). A tip of dulling down bright pipes. Use acrylic paint diluted in water with a minor touch of Fairy Liquid and capillary action should draw the mix around the back of the pipe and pipework in awkward places. Edited October 9, 2015 by coachmann Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaymzHatstand Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Thanks for the heads up re the snifter covers, which also appear (from the Hornby website photo) to be on the SR version, understandably if, as Olivegreen suggests, they were not removed until their later days. The tender on that version is wrong for 825 anyhow. If it's just a case of the covers (and clouplings!) being wrong, I think that they are writing my scope for a simple(ish) conversion. Cheers J Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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