LNER Models in 4mm

[Sasquatch]

On 18/12/2021 at 06:26, micklner said:

Nucast J21 body rebuilt and fitted with a replacement 52F chassis ,which required a lot of work to get it to fit, let alone work !!.

Tender I believe is a old etched Geo Norton Etch sourced via ebay without any chassis and poorly built. Rebuilt and detail added and a a 52F Tender Chassis fitted.

 

 

 

 

Cracking loco Mick. The first picture definitely captures the look of what I think is the ultimate steam goods engine. Very nice!

 

Regards Shaun

[micklner]

To start the ball rolling again some recent builds of D&S NER Coaches 

 

Clerestory  Dia 26

Dia 150 Brake 3rd

 

 

 

 

A older build A.H. Hammond kit

 

H&BR Brake Third

 

 

I have recently changed my laptop so access to older photos is not viable and the time needed to upload them all again , hopefully the other photos will reappear in due course.

 

Photos are here at the present time.

 

https://www.lner.info/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1624

 

cheers

 

Mick

[micklner]

Some more recent work and some shown on Wright Writes

 

DJH A2

 

Nucast J21 with 52F Chassis

 

 

 

 

Re worked Hornby D49 to a Hunt version

 

 

Connesiseur exNER Coach

 

 

D&S ex NER Coach Dia 53  based on a YORK Photo circa 1935

 

 

 

https://www.lner.info/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1624

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 11, 2022 by micklner

[micklner]

Rebuild of a D&S ex NER Push pull Coach. The varnish didnt like being in the shed and peeled off over the winter , as a result stripped and repainted and extra detail added.

 

 

 

Parkside LNER Horsebox an addtion to the White roof one I built 11 years ago!!

 

 

 

 

 

[micklner]

Current progress of a D&S based NER Dia 18 Brake Third, a later version with additional Two windows in the Brake area of the Coach.

This one is using up spare parts from various sources, and at the moment the last coach I will be building . Nothing is scrwed down in the photos.

D&S Sides and most of the underframe fittings plus MJT Vacumn Braking parts.

MJT Fox Bogies GNR version, there is nothing else available in OO.

Worsley Works Ends, Roof and Clerestory Top Windows etch .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mick

 

Edited April 21, 2022 by micklner

[Jon4470]

Hi Mick

 

Good to see this build...I have a few of the clerestory carriages in the “stash” waiting for me to make time to build them.

 

Did you have any problem mixing D&S sides with Worsley ends? (They look like a good fit in the pictures).

 

And for the roof did you use brass sheet (I can’t remember if D&S supply plastic for these ones........)

 

Jon

 

 

 

 

 

 

[micklner]

5 minutes ago, Jon4470 said:

Hi Mick

 

Good to see this build...I have a few of the clerestory carriages in the “stash” waiting for me to make time to build them.

 

Did you have any problem mixing D&S sides with Worsley ends? (They look like a good fit in the pictures).

 

And for the roof did you use brass sheet (I can’t remember if D&S supply plastic for these ones........)

 

Jon

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jon

 

   Sides and ends fit ok . The Worsley etches are however not as good detail as the D&S versions, the beading is etched deeper in depth and in width.

 

  The Roof/Clerestory are also Worsley etches  , the main roof on this build was too wide and needed filing back . The Clerestory roof however is too narrow !!.  I have soldered 0.45mm brass wire each side otherwise there would be zero overhang. As there is a slot/groove for the Clerestory sides to fit into the etches the design was poor. The roof I used was a spare from a order a couple of years ago from Worsley.

          I bought the Worsley etched Roofs, after requesting him to supply  the roofs from his kits as a seperate item, for three secondhand D&S kits I had bought with their Roofs missing. After about a year later, (including Covid supply delays) I obtained the Worsley roofs I needed , prior to this he sent other etched Roofs with various etching mistakes on sizing and window details, which were rejected and returned , numerous emails etc , to sort it all out.

       He now lists the etched Roofs as a seperate item for sale on his listings. I suggest that anyone ordering any contact him first and confirm the sizes required and type of Coach design as they all vary in some window detail and widths.

 

       D&S as far as I am aware only supplied  thick plastic roofs for all of their kits? All I have built, have poor moulded shapes as well as  too thick.

 

 

Mick

    

[Jon4470]

Hi Mick 

Thanks for the detailed reply. You look to have made a good job of the roof despite the challenges.

 

While I was researching some information about the D18 brakes a few weeks ago I noticed that the diagram book did not show the two windows in the van portion and that it also showed the ducket at the end of the van portion. However, the photo I was looking at showed the arrangement that you have in the model. I was perplexed especially as the D130 brake diagram had the windows and middle position for the ducket........but that is an elliptical roof carriage. So I started to look at the clerestory brakes in any photo I could find. I think I found every variation possible! (With or without windows, ducket at the end or middle). I came to the conclusion that the diagram book shows the original design of D18 and then that design evolved over time. When the elliptical version D130 was introduced it simply picked up the latest variation of windows and ducket.

 

Hope you don’t mind the rambling, I was interested to see you describe it as a later version...glad that my conclusion from the photo checking seems to agree with your knowledge.

 

Jon

[micklner]

Jon,

     Not a problem.

      It is mentioned in the D&S instructions, which unusually for D&S go into some detail . The extra window version was built from 1906 , a few were built dual fitted Vac/Westinghouse. Mine will be a version of that type in due course, just to give some variation of the designs.

 

Mick

[18131r]

On 21/04/2022 at 21:51, micklner said:

Jon

 

   Sides and ends fit ok . The Worsley etches are however not as good detail as the D&S versions, the beading is etched deeper in depth and in width.

 

  The Roof/Clerestory are also Worsley etches  , the main roof on this build was too wide and needed filing back . The Clerestory roof however is too narrow !!.  I have soldered 0.45mm brass wire each side otherwise there would be zero overhang. As there is a slot/groove for the Clerestory sides to fit into the etches the design was poor. The roof I used was a spare from a order a couple of years ago from Worsley.

          I bought the Worsley etched Roofs, after requesting him to supply  the roofs from his kits as a seperate item, for three secondhand D&S kits I had bought with their Roofs missing. After about a year later, (including Covid supply delays) I obtained the Worsley roofs I needed , prior to this he sent other etched Roofs with various etching mistakes on sizing and window details, which were rejected and returned , numerous emails etc , to sort it all out.

       He now lists the etched Roofs as a seperate item for sale on his listings. I suggest that anyone ordering any contact him first and confirm the sizes required and type of Coach design as they all vary in some window detail and widths.

 

       D&S as far as I am aware only supplied  thick plastic roofs for all of their kits? All I have built, have poor moulded shapes as well as  too thick.

 

 

Mick

    

Hello Mick

 

I have been following you builds of NER coaches with interest as I am needing some for my layout.

 

I have just tried the Worsley Works web site, this is what I found. I hope it is just a blip.

 

You may have been lucky to have received your etches from them.

 

Richard

[cctransuk]

52 minutes ago, 18131r said:

Hello Mick

 

I have been following you builds of NER coaches with interest as I am needing some for my layout.

 

I have just tried the Worsley Works web site, this is what I found. I hope it is just a blip.

 

You may have been lucky to have received your etches from them.

 

Richard

 

Looks like they've forgotten to renew their domain subscription.

 

CJI.

[18131r]

18 minutes ago, cctransuk said:

 

Looks like they've forgotten to renew their domain subscription.

 

CJI.

I hope that is all it is.

 

Richard

[Jon4470]

4 hours ago, 18131r said:

Hello Mick

 

I have been following you builds of NER coaches with interest as I am needing some for my layout.

 

I have just tried the Worsley Works web site, this is what I found. I hope it is just a blip.

 

You may have been lucky to have received your etches from them.

 

Richard

 

Hi Richard

 

Let’s hope that it is just a temporary outage,

 

You can also try Bill Bedford at

https://mousa-models.co.uk/product/coach-etch-lists/

 

You can can download the list and order etches from that. There will be a substantial lead time as they are made to order, but it is at least another option.

 

Jon

[micklner]

I have emailed Worsley, I will post any response recieved.

[Asterix2012]

Domain is still registered so that’s not the issue at least

 

 

Relevant dates:
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Expiry date: 24-Nov-2023
Last updated: 17-Nov-2021

Registration status:
Registered until expiry date.

 

[18131r]

13 hours ago, Jon4470 said:

 

Hi Richard

 

Let’s hope that it is just a temporary outage,

 

You can also try Bill Bedford at

https://mousa-models.co.uk/product/coach-etch-lists/

 

You can can download the list and order etches from that. There will be a substantial lead time as they are made to order, but it is at least another option.

 

Jon

Hello  Jon

 

Thank you for the information.

 

I will certainly look at his site.

 

Richard

[18131r]

15 hours ago, micklner said:

I have emailed Worsley, I will post any response recieved.

Hello Mick and All

 

It seems that the web site is back up and running.

 

I have just been on it.

 

Richard

[micklner]

NER Dia 18 Brake Third using up the last of my D&S body and Worsley roof Etches. I had to use MJT GNR Bogies as nothing else is avaliable in OO.

 

 

 

 

Another model completed , using up spare parts and a Chassis sourced via ebay for a good price.

Wild Swan is a converted Hornby R2339 Mallard , Single chimney via Graeme King , bodywork repaired etc.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[malc60015]

On 16/05/2022 at 20:03, Rowsley17D said:

In the NE they call them proggy mats, also known as hooky or clippy mats.

 

On 02/04/2022 at 19:30, Market65 said:

Good evening, . This evening we have a photo’ by jsb303, on Flickr, of St. Andrew’s Dock, from 1957, with 68409 shunting a train of fish vans.

 

Hull: St. Andrews Dock. 1957. by jsb303, on Flickr

 

Best regards,

 

 Rob.

 

[micklner]

As the old photos appear long gone . Some photos of old builds.

A1/1 Great Northern, conversion of a Hornby A3

 

 

Conversions of the Bachmann A2

 

A2/1 Duke of Rothesay with Bachmann GS Tender

 

 

 

A2/2 Wolf of Badenoch Hornby tender

 

 

 

A2/3 Airborne

 

 

Hornby A3 as post war Humourist

 

 

 

Nucast Sentinel Railcar  "Hope" the last one to be withdrawn.

 

 

 

Edited July 14, 2022 by micklner

[micklner]

Hornby D49 Railroad version, with the motor fitted to the chassis. Not much left of the original model, the following has been added.

 

Hornby A3 Lined Drivers and parts of a A3 valve gear used to replace the awful original valve gear, Hornby B17 Bogie 12 spoke wheels , Crownline castings conversion kit , Puffers Lentz Cam Gear, Bachmann Stepped Tender . New handrails and extra detail added. The Tender will have pick ups fitted in due course, the original Hornby Driving wheels were fitted with rubber traction tyres.

Now in primer.

 

 

 

Edited September 16, 2022 by micklner

[micklner]

This maybe delayed . I have just looked at a just arrived  new sheet of HMRS LNER Lining . Simply dire totally out of register . Any suggestion re other sources for Lining decals (not Modelmaster). HMRS have been emailed to see if all there current sheets are as poor or a refund beckons.

 

The decals should have clean white outside lines not a Black overlap as on these photos.

 

 

 

[Bucoops]

Fox? https://www.fox-transfers.co.uk/transfers/general-white-black-white-lining-58399

 

[Worsdell forever]

8 minutes ago, Bucoops said:

Fox? https://www.fox-transfers.co.uk/transfers/general-white-black-white-lining-58399

 

 

Yep, Fox every time.

[John Tomlinson]

23 hours ago, micklner said:

This maybe delayed . I have just looked at a just arrived  new sheet of HMRS LNER Lining . Simply dire totally out of register . Any suggestion re other sources for Lining decals (not Modelmaster). HMRS have been emailed to see if all there current sheets are as poor or a refund beckons.

 

The decals should have clean white outside lines not a Black overlap as on these photos.

 

 

 

 

Seems to be a quite common problem on several of their offerings sadly.

 

I e-mailed HMRS when I had a sheet with a similar problem, and was eventually sent a replacement. That was for the BR/GW lining. The replacement was fine.

 

John.