Bakewell - Peak District Line BR - Layout Views

[ChrisN]

Al,

Those packing cases are just the sort of thing to add life to the layout.  I think the driver might fall out if he leans any further over though.

 

Some things are worth making yourself and others it is just as easy to buy.

[Alister_G]

 

I think the driver might fall out if he leans any further over though.

 

 

I blame Mr Fowler, how am I supposed to let the crew look out of the window with a blooming great box in the way

[Jason T]

I struggled to get the crew in my 3F too because of the inside of the splashes; I chose a lazy sod sitting down. That's the joys of OO gauge tolerances I guess, meaning that the cab space is compromised

[Alister_G]

I struggled to get the crew in my 3F too because of the inside of the splashes; I chose a lazy sod sitting down. That's the joys of OO gauge tolerances I guess, meaning that the cab space is compromised

 

Yep, I'm afraid the fireman may have to suffer a traumatic amputation...

[Alister_G]

So, as I'm not allowed to buy things I'll just have to make my own goods for the goods shed.

 

Looking around at what I've got to hand, I found a length of 10mm square tube (bought for use as buttresses for the station)

 

 

Which I chopped up into 10mm (ish) lengths:

 

 

 

 

I've got a load of microstrip:

 

 

which again I cut into short lengths:

 

 

and then I stuck the strips to the offcuts of tube:

 

 

 

 

and added more strips as edging and cross-bracing

 

 

 

Would you believe that a single crate like this used up two 300mm lengths of strip.

 

I'll do some more of these, but I also looked round for whatever else I could do.

 

I found some bits of tube, and wondered about making a barrel or two.

 

 

I used more strip to form the curve:

 

 

 

However, I'm not sure this is such a success - certainly at the moment I wouldn't want to put any liquids in this, I have a feeling it would leak rather badly...

 

I'll continue to build some more crates and so on over the weekend, and get some painted up.

 

Al.

 

[JCL]

Nice. And I've just thought, that square section might look good as square planters.

[Alister_G]

Nice. And I've just thought, that square section might look good as square planters.

 

Ooh! Great idea, you're right it would.

 

Cheers,

 

Al.

[RBE]

The crates look pretty good but could you have not just scribed the planks on and added microstrip for the edge and crossbracing? Seems a bit of an ott use of microstrip to me. As for barrels I reckon shaped and scriped milliput would work better the strip. A barrels planks arent parrellel sided like the strip hence the gaps!

[Alister_G]

The crates look pretty good but could you have not just scribed the planks on and added microstrip for the edge and crossbracing? Seems a bit of an ott use of microstrip to me. As for barrels I reckon shaped and scriped milliput would work better the strip. A barrels planks arent parrellel sided like the strip hence the gaps!

 

Hi Cav, yes you're probably right, I just think the use of microstrip all over gives more relief.

 

As for the barrel, yep, I was trying to use the MEK to soften the strip so that each bit would be tapered top and bottom like a real barrel stave would be, but it's not a success.

 

Looking again at the pic above, it looks more like a Mills bomb just need to add the fuse and release handle and it's sorted

[Jaz]

I like the wooden crate, but an expensive way to go. I agree using them for the relief and scoring the rest is a more economic option.

Rather than using MEK a small file might have achieved the end product, but again expensive on the microstrip I used DAS to make some stuff ages ago, although Freebs immediately made his to a much higher standard. I did like my bin bags though, unfortunately they won't fit on your station era. 

I think if you are using odds and ends left overs it's good, but I would be loath to use micros trip etc where the product costs more than buying ready made. As a test study regards can it be done, great, but cost has to be a large factor.I admire your perseverance with that crate I bet it was a stinker to hold the bits in place.

 

 

Oh and love the sub title

 

Carry Your Bags Sir?.....................

Edited April 25, 2014 by Jaz

[Alister_G]

This evening I've done a few more bits.

 

After suggestions from Cav and Jaz, I've tried doing some more packing crates, but scoring on the planking instead of adding microstrip.

 

I cut four similar sized pieces of the Square tube, and stuck them to a piece of 10thou styrene which will close off the ends:

 

 

These are scored quite heavily, but it doesn't show up well on camera.

 

When the MEK had dried, I trimmed off the excess 10thou all round:

 

 

 

 

I then used the 10thou x 30thou strip to add the edging and cross bracing.

 

Here's all of them built, the two on the left are those I did yesterday with microstrip all over:

 

 

I also made some oil drums. I took some short offcuts of 6.3mm round tube, and closed off the ends with 10thou plasticard. then I used a piece of 10thou x 30thou microstrip to form the lip on the top edge:

 

 

and then used 10thou x 20thou microstrip to form the ribs around the diameter of the drum, and the bottom lip:

 

 

to end up with this:

 

 

 

Lastly, I rolled out a thin sausage of DAS and cut out some sacks:

 

 

Once these have all thoroughly dried overnight, I'll start painting.

 

Thanks for looking,

 

Al.

[RBE]

Very good. Ill be keen to see them painted!

[westerhamstation]

Hi Al, coincidentally I have been thinking about making some sacks and crates after seeing Freebs excellent examples, I look forward to seeing your finished ones they are looking good even before you paint them. all the best Adrian.

Ps. your last picture of the sacks frightened me, I thought it was my mother in law smiling at me.

[Marcus 37]

Hi Al

Good to see you back. Don't think I've ever seen your thread slip so far back. Don't worry I know only to well work gets in the way of quality modelling time.

Anyway, I have to agree with Cav and Jaz that the crates clad with Micro strip is an expensive way to go BUT, I have to admit they look so much better in that photograph. If you can afford to do it though with the time and the patience go for it.

Mean while I've been having a good read through that book I was on about. There's some great pictures of both the LMS twins 10000 & 100001 thrashing through Millers Dale and also the "Fell" locomotive stopping there.

Now there's the dilemma. Micro strip or a pair of LMS twins??? Mmmmm!!

Cheers

Marcus

[Andrew P]

Hi Al, good to see you've got the sack   you will have them Crates over a Barrel if there not right, hhahah

 

Really nice work, I go out and spend a fiver on packs of Barrels, Crates and Sacks and you make them for next to nothing, well done mate.

Instead of looking for Sacks, Crates and Barrels at the show tomorrow I will be looking for tubing, DAS and plastic strip.

[Alister_G]

Thanks all of you for your comments.

 

Marcus, the book sounds good, remind me again which it is?

 

I think price wise I'll be sticking with the microstrip - a pair of LMS twins is way out of my league at the moment.

 

Andy, yep, now I've done my own, I wish I hadn't spent the money for the Dart Castings ones - although they are very good - although I think barrels may be beyond me. As you will see, I needn't have bought the sack carts either.

[Alister_G]

So, first of all, I finished off the oil drums with a thin slice of 1mm round rod for the drain bung, and the same for the top filler.

 

 

Now, you know me, once I get into the swing of chopping styrene into little bits I tend to get carried away, and I'm afraid I've done it again.

 

Looking at the sack cart I'd bought from Dart Castings, I reckoned I could probably make one, so I gave it a go.

 

I started with two side profiles cut from 20thou plasticard:

 

 

I then cut away the top edge by 1mm,

 

 

in order that I could add some 1mm round rod for the handles.

 

 

I then added some 20thou x 40thou on the outside to strengthen the frame, and  some 10thou x 20thou on the inside to provide something for the cross pieces to fix to:

 

 

I then cut the cross pieces out of 10thou x 20thou, and joined the two sides together:

 

 

 

I made wheels from two thin slices of 4.2mm round tube, with an axle of 1mm round rod:

 

 

Here's a reminder of the actual size of the model:

 

 

I'm pretty pleased with how it's turned out, and I'll probably make another one or two, as you see lots of them scattered around the station.

 

...

 

So, now it's painting time.

 

Here's the oil drums, painted in gloss green (Humbrol No.3) with the bungs picked out in black and lightly weathered:

 

 

The crates were painted in Matt Sand (Humbrol No.63) and then were weathered with Dirty Black (Humbrol RC401) and Engineers Grey (Humbrol RC413):

 

 

 

The sack barrow was painted in Dark Earth (Humbrol No.29) and weathered with Dirty Black. The handles were again Engineers Grey:

 

 

The sacks were again done in Matt Sand, I'm undecided whether to weather these or leave them as they are:

 

 

 

Thanks for looking,

 

Al

[Guest bri.s]

Excellent work , really nice barrels, crates and drums .

 

Brian

[Alister_G]

Thanks very much Brian.

 

The photos above were taken last night, in electric light, and all look a bit orange-y, so here's some more taken in natural daylight:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cheers,

 

Al.

[westerhamstation]

Hi Al, having seen your crates, sacks , drums and  barrow I will be ordering mine from Al's Enterprises ltd. all the best Adrian . (Cheque in post).

[Marcus 37]

Hi Al

Ok if the LMS twins are out of the question then perhaps the Master of Plasticard can build the "Fell" from scratch. :GRIN:

 

Oh and can I put an order in for two sack trucks please. They really are superb.

Mean while here is the book I was on about. Really is superb with some excellent pictures in. Especially the colour ones of when the line was open. A particular favourite is one of a green Class 25 banking a rake of mineral wagons through Bakewell.

 

[RBE]

That book looks good to me the cover is of much interest to me. Does it have much of Millers Dale in there?

Edited April 27, 2014 by RBE

[Marcus 37]

Hi Cav

There are 14 pages of Millers Dale with 2 pictures per page, quite a few in colour. Definitely worth getting.

Cheers

Marcus

[Kenokie]

Al

 

Just out of interest have you worked out roughly how much you will have saved by making your own "bits & bobs" for the platform?

 

Also you asked the question so I think you should weather the sacks .... it will definitely improve the way they look.

 

Great work

 

Chris O

[Jaz]

Thanks very much Brian.

 

The photos above were taken last night, in electric light, and all look a bit orange-y, so here's some more taken in natural daylight:

 

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Cheers,

 

Al.

I really like the crates, but the trolly is wizard....