leopardml2341 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Post 9369, photo C1058 - interesting (LNER?) sleeping car, wonder what became of it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted March 5, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 5, 2017 Hi, Dave. I like the Haworth photos. It's always good to see the K&WVR. A fantastic set of photos from Peterborough - I had to make sure they were not of the lovely model - wrong era! In C1708, the class 31 is 31207. In C1695, I've enlarged the photo, and there is a possibility that the class 47 maybe 47208. But I could be wrong. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leander Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 J327 - You think correctly! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Post 9369, photo C1058 - interesting (LNER?) sleeping car, wonder what became of it Many Sleepers that made it into 'preservation' have been destroyed including at least two at KWVR, it was possibly http://www.cs.vintagecarriagestrust.org/se/CarriageInfo.asp?Ref=953 Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted March 5, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 5, 2017 Is there actually any LNER or LMS sleepers left? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Fitness Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 There are a couple of LMS design ones on the bluebell but they looked on their last legs when I saw them last year... JF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted March 6, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 6, 2017 It's a shame too see the sleepers go like that. They are pre BR design passenger carriages after all. Best regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted March 6, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted March 6, 2017 Once more we are at Radcliffe on Trent on the Grantham to Nottingham line. Radcliffe on Trent 47164 Parkeston Quay to Manchester Oct 78 C4203 Radcliffe on Trent 31115 Nottingham to Skegness July 79 C4659 Radcliffe on Trent Class 114 Nottingham to Skegness Jan 80 C4927 Radcliffe on Trent 56070 coal empties to Cotgrave April 80 C4979 Radcliffe on Trent Class 114 Nottingham to Grantham April 80 C4983 David 33 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 C4983 - 2 centuries of viaduct design! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisf Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Is there actually any LNER or LMS sleepers left? I do not know if it is still there but there was an LMS sleeper at Chappel many years ago acting as the Hilton [volunteers' hostel!]. Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted March 6, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 6, 2017 Hi, Dave. I like the Radcliffe on Trent photos. A varied selection of trains to see, including in C4927, a begrimed class 114 on a Skegness working. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted March 6, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 6, 2017 There are a couple of LMS design ones on the bluebell but they looked on their last legs when I saw them last year... JF And LNER at Boness IIRC Vintage Carriage Survey website excellent resource for these queries Cheers Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOCJACOB Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 As I recall there is a 12w LMS sleeper next to Ludborough station as private accommodation and the LNER Sleeper recently moved from Strathspey to Bo'Ness Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted March 6, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 6, 2017 Love the the triang high level piers at Radcliffe! The problem with those post war sleepers is that most if not all were full of blue asbestos making any corrosion repairs difficult Not sure if the 12w LMS one a Pickering got scrapped but the 8w one a Sheringham did but by the end of its use was absolutely rank. Cheap mk3 sleepers in the 90s saw off a lot of older ones Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERS Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Love the the triang high level piers at Radcliffe! The problem with those post war sleepers is that most if not all were full of blue asbestos making any corrosion repairs difficult Not sure if the 12w LMS one a Pickering got scrapped but the 8w one a Sheringham did but by the end of its use was absolutely rank. Cheap mk3 sleepers in the 90s saw off a lot of older ones I remember that one arriving at Sheringham, it was the height of luxury after what had come before it and from memory was BR build and seemed odd as it was dual heated but vac braked, presumably it had seen service on the WCML in the early days of electrification. Sorry to hear of its demise, although not entirely surprised, it 's now nearly 40 years since its arrival. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted March 6, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 6, 2017 It must be getting on for 20 years now since it was cut up. Think it was a WCML one, I seem to remember when I first saw it it was blue and grey with Inter-city sleeper on it Were you a volunteer on the NNR then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 And LNER at Boness IIRC Vintage Carriage Survey website excellent resource for these queries Cheers Phil It appears to be in poor condition http://www.cs.vintagecarriagestrust.org/se/CarriageInfo.asp?Ref=933 compared with when I photographed it in 1977 http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/lnercoach/e1dfcdc2c Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted March 6, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 6, 2017 I didn't realise a Gresley had survived. How did that happen as they were withdrawn before preservation got of the ground as far as I know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 I didn't realise a Gresley had survived. How did that happen as they were withdrawn before preservation got of the ground as far as I know If you follow the link it tells you. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted March 6, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 6, 2017 For some reason I had no idea they lasted that long. Did they out last the Thompson's then, and I suppose they got blue and grey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Reid Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 (edited) Sadly by the time the BR Built / LMS deign sleepers were bought for preservation (the one I had a share in, Sleeper Third M622M was bought circa 1978)? they were already in very poor condition. Where the exterior panels had rotted away the interiors and woodwork had suffered badly - not helped by being sprayed with Limpet Asbestos and layers of asbestos sheeting between the panels and up over the roof. The underframe was lined almost to the full depth of the solebars with almost 6" of Blue asbestos - without being fully stripped very little could be done to stall the rot. 622 lasted till the late 80s before it was finally cut up. Thanks to Robert Carroll, here it is in rather happier days. https://www.flickr.com/photos/robertcwp/13702144364/ Thank goodness for DaveF and his Dad recording these things for posterity (Edited to remove duff spelling in the last para)! Edited March 6, 2017 by Bob-65b Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 I stayed over several times in a ex LMS 12 wheel sleeper at Chappel and Wakes Colne when i was a volunteer there in the late 70's. It was blue and grey and had ETH if i remember correctly. Are there any photo's of it there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted March 6, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 6, 2017 I stayed over several times in a ex LMS 12 wheel sleeper at Chappel and Wakes Colne when i was a volunteer there in the late 70's. It was blue and grey and had ETH if i remember correctly. Are there any photo's of it there? I can't find any photos of it in my collection. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted March 7, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted March 7, 2017 (edited) Today's photos are of lines formerly owned by the Midland Railway. Annesley LMSR 42184 Fairburn 2-6-4T Nottingham MIdland to Worksop April 64 J115 Annesley LMSR 42232 Fairburn 2-6-4T Worksop to Nottingham Midland April 64 J116 Annesley 8F 48105 down empties April 64 J117 Linby colliery view south along MR line April 75 C1938 Lifford MR April 71 J2629 Edited March 7, 2017 by DaveF 44 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Thanks David. I have some of those Fairburn tanks underlined in my early 60s ABC; but most were Kirkby-In-Ashfield based. As I never remember visiting that location, I assumed I must have seen them at Midland but had no idea why. Now I have discovered the most likely reason. 53 years later, and another mystery is solved. One of the marvels of the internet. Thanks once again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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