RMweb Premium uax6 Posted March 1, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 1, 2017 Isn't it a shame that Liverpool Street now has that dingy building over the ends of the platform, making that end look like New street. I know money was involved, but how much nicer it would have been if the covering building had had the platform cover twice the height that it is, so that it didn't look so restricted... Is the GE Hotel still a hotel these days? Andy G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted March 2, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 2, 2017 When they were first delivered the ECML HSTs had a TRUK (Trailer Restaurant Unclassified with Kitchen - 405xx series) and a TRSB (Trailer Restaurant Second with Buffet - 404xx series) in the formation. The former was usually formed between the second class and first class vehicles and the latter in the middle of the second class vehicles. Fairly quickly they were reformed and the catering vehicles placed adjacent to each other. Looking through the P5 books, it seems the 20 sets with two catering cars were reformed in time for the May 1980 timetable start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Griffin Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 4765137586_0d7f699bd8_b.jpeg I do like this advertisement, I especially like the reduction in price, as 12p can clearly be seen underneath the 10p sticker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted March 2, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 2, 2017 Liverpool Street and Shenfield today. The second and third photos were taken while I was en route to a meeting in London (I had made a detour from my hotel). The only thing I remember about the meeting was a senior civil servant who informed us that Hadrian's Wall is still the boundary between England and Scotland. I hadn't realised that I lived in Scotland until then as I had always thought that Northumberland was in England. I stopped listening after that. Liverpool Street east side Dec 79 C4905.jpg Liverpool Street east side Dec 79 C4905 a Liverpool Street entrance and Great Eastern Hotel 20th Oct 93 C19159.jpg Liverpool Street entrance and Great Eastern Hotel 20th Oct 93 C19159 a Liverpool Street concourse 20th Oct 93C19160.jpg Liverpool Street concourse 20th Oct 93 C19160 j Shenfield Class 309 Clacton to Liverpool St Jan 79 C4270.jpg Shenfield Class 309 Clacton to Liverpool St Jan 79 C4270 j Shenfield 309626 Liverpool St to Clacton Jan 79 C4273.jpg Shenfield 309626 Liverpool St to Clacton Jan 79 C4273 David Puts on Pedant Hat Hadrian's wall has never been the boundary between England and Scotland. It was built as the boundary between the Roman Province of Britannia and Caledonia, which was not part of the Empire. By the time the English turned up nearly 500 years later in the form of the Saxons, the area both sides of it was part of the Welsh kingdom of Strathclyde, and when the Saxons kicked the Welsh out, the boundary was established more or less where it still is, though it was contended for the next 8 or 9 centuries takes off pedant hat and goes back to sleep. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted March 2, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted March 2, 2017 (edited) Haresfield today. These are new photos to this thread, but other photos of the same workings may have appeared in this thread before, from slightly different viewpoints. The loco numbers are pre Tops. Haresfield Class 45 SW to NE April 72 J2889Loco is D35. This photo shouldn't have black and white round it, I attached the wrong file but it is going to stay here. Haresfield Class 46 171 SW to NE April 73 J3181 07.10 Paignton to Edniburgh Haresfield Class 46 Leeds to Weston Super Mare perhaps April 73 J3182 06.28 Leeds to Paignton Haresfield Class 45 121 to Paignton April 73 J3183 Haresfield Class 120 B552 Swindon to Cheltenham perhaps April 73 J J3184 Thanks to Phil Bullock for the train IDs and and to Paul J for the loco number in the first image. David Edited March 2, 2017 by DaveF 35 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted March 2, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 2, 2017 My late father, who was a warden of Durham Cathedral, used to tell American Visitors that the wall was built to stop the Border Reivers nicking the lead of the roof of the Cathedral! Hook line and sinker usually, the US types not understanding the timelines of such an old country. Back on topic, may I just add one of my occasional thanks for these photos, which are jus such a great record of the railway as it was. Cheers David. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted March 2, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 2, 2017 Hi, Dave. It's great to see Haresfield. I know it was originally a four track line, and it had clearly been rationalised by the time of those photos. It's great to see more 45's and 46's at work. And those Cross Country units were such an everyday sight on those metals. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted March 2, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 2, 2017 (edited) Now that's spooky Dave! Had planned to go there last night to see Tornado but was at least 40 down so would have been virtually dark by the time she arrived so we didn't....your phots more than make up for it! So.... J2889 - 3E09? I think not! hee hee J3181 - 1S27 - was 07.10 Paignton - Edinburgh IIRC, look at that catering provision - not common on cross country - and a two portion train with a brake in the middle plus another at the end plus BG swinger. My wtt is 71/72 so not exactly right but suspect a Glasgow portion comes off at Carstairs. Due Standish 10.27 and from the shadows that looks right. WTT says 370 tons limit for a 45/46 on column 5 timings and with load 13 she must be pushing that - over 400 tons surely? So bagsy the rear drop light in case she takes the bankers at Bromsgrove, probably 37s by then. J3182 - 1V67 - 06.28 Leeds to Paignton, due Standish 10.47 J3183 - 1V72 not in my wtt. Timeless..... Phil Edited March 2, 2017 by Phil Bullock 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Another nice set of photos David as always. The first photo, J2889, the loco is D35. The damage on the grills gives it away, but the clincher was when I did a quick Flickr search a nice photo of yours came up of exactly the same shot, which said it was D35. Always a pleasure seeing what delights you thrill us with each day. Thank you and long may it continue. Paul J. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Glory Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 (edited) Haresfield today. These are new photos to this thread, but other photos of the same workings may have appeared in this thread before, from slightly different viewpoints. The loco numbers are pre Tops. Haresfield Class 46 171 SW to NE April 73 J3181.jpg Haresfield Class 46 171 SW to NE April 73 J3181 Haresfield Class 45 121 to Paignton April 73 J3183.jpgHaresfield Class 45 121 to Paignton April 73 J3183 Re J3181 (and J2889) Was the former Haresfield signal box visible in the background still open to control the level crossing or had that already been replaced with a foot crossing? The box does not look boarded up yet and it survived for another 20 years at least: http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3612901 Re J3183 Farm track bridge in the background was demolished years ago but the brick abutments are (or were) easily noticeable from passing trains. Edited March 2, 2017 by Western Glory Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted March 2, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 2, 2017 (edited) Now that's spooky Dave! Had planned to go there last night to see Tornado but was at least 40 down so would have been virtually dark by the time she arrived so we didn't....your phots more than make up for it! So.... J2889 - 3E09? I think not! hee hee J3181 - 1S27 - was 07.10 Paignton - Edinburgh IIRC, look at that catering provision - not common on cross country - and a two portion train with a brake in the middle plus another at the end plus BG swinger. My wtt is 71/72 so not exactly right but suspect a Glasgow portion comes off at Carstairs. Due Standish 10.27 and from the shadows that looks right. WTT says 370 tons limit for a 45/46 on column 5 timings and with load 13 she must be pushing that - over 400 tons surely? So bagsy the rear drop light in case she takes the bankers at Bromsgrove, probably 37s by then. J3182 - 1V67 - 06.28 Leeds to Paignton, due Standish 10.47 J3183 - 1V72 not in my wtt. Timeless..... Phil Phil, Many thanks for working out the trains. I've no idea what the headcode on the first one should have been. Another nice set of photos David as always. The first photo, J2889, the loco is D35. The damage on the grills gives it away, but the clincher was when I did a quick Flickr search a nice photo of yours came up of exactly the same shot, which said it was D35. Always a pleasure seeing what delights you thrill us with each day. Thank you and long may it continue. Paul J. Paul, Thanks for getting the loco number off my flickr site for me. It should have been in the caption but somehow I uploaded the wrong file, hence the odd border round it - it is actually a smaller size copy of my original scan without any work done on it. Re J3181 (and J2889) Was the former Haresfield signal box visible in the background still open to control the level crossing or had that already been replaced with a foot crossing? The box does not look boarded up yet and it survived for another 20 years at least: http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3612901 Re J3183 Farm track bridge in the background was demolished years ago but the brick abutments are (or were) easily noticeable from passing trains. Thanks for the information Western Glory. I don't anything about the signal box - I was only there because I was staying with a railway enthusiast friend of dad's who suggested we went there for a couple of hours each time Dad and/or I stayed with him. David Edited March 2, 2017 by DaveF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted March 2, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 2, 2017 G66 signal has an interesting feather on it. I don't think I've noticed one like that before. Andy G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted March 3, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted March 3, 2017 (edited) Another batch from North wales today, starting at Llandudno Junction and heading towards Blaenau Ffestiniog. No sunshine - I reserved the sunny days for the narrow gauge lines. landudno Junction NWT Class 175 175005 up pass 23rd July 2001 C25360 Llanrwrst Class 101 Blaenau Ffestiniog to Llandudno Junction 19th April 86 C7465 Llanrwst 47432 special Morpeth to Blaenau Ffestiniog 19th April 86 C7464 Dolwyddelan 23rd July 2002 C26008 Roman Bridge July 82 C5796 David Edited March 3, 2017 by DaveF 24 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted March 3, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 3, 2017 Hi, Dave. A great set of photos of North Wales today. The scenery is spectacular, and similar to some areas of Scotland in places. In C7464, there is a good view of 47432 at Llanrwst. And a fantastic view of Roman Bridge in the last photo. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
73c Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 I like the pointy hat on the class 175 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisman56 Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 I like the pointy hat on the class 175 Out of gauge, surely... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted March 4, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted March 4, 2017 (edited) Photos taken at Aisgill and Kirkby Stephen today. The Kirkby Stephen ones are quite recent, only about 20 years old. I never did visit the station in the 60s. Aisgill Class 45 down Leeds City to Glasgow (I think) Aug 65 J327 Aisgill LMS 8F 2-8-0 down goods Aug 65 J332 Aisgill Arriva Northern WYPTE 158905 Glasgow to Leeds 22nd April 03 C26264 Kirkby Stephen East NER station buildings 29th Aug 96 C21390 Kirkby Stephen view south 29th Aug 96 C21391 Kirkby Stephen Midland Cottages 29th Aug 96 C21395 David Edited March 4, 2017 by DaveF 42 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted March 4, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 4, 2017 Hi, Dave. A good selection of photo's of Aisgill and Kirkby Stephen. I particularly like J332. A typical view of a Stanier 8F on a freight train in August, 1965. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Glory Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 (edited) Re C21395 A rather odd collection of six cottages, four sharing a path to the front door and judging by the central window all of them sharing a half lean-to and half gable-ended porch. Edited March 4, 2017 by Western Glory Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted March 5, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 5, 2017 (edited) Re C21395 A rather odd collection of six cottages, four sharing a path to the front door and judging by the central window all of them sharing a half lean-to and half gable-ended porch. Those gabled entranced railway cottages are a fairly common design feature for the S&C, plenty of other rows of Midland cottages around in varying lengths. There is another row of six on Moorcock Road as well as some at Cumwhinton and Petteril as well as several other locations At Garsdale the row is stepped in pairs because of the gradient of the road. Langwathby block of 6: https://goo.gl/maps/DhUUuLXFTUx BTW In 1970 those in C21395 were not white! Keith Edited March 5, 2017 by melmerby 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBill Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Those gabled entranced railway cottages are a fairly common design feature for the S&C, plenty of other rows of Midland cottages around in varying lengths. There is another row of six on Moorcock Road as well as some at Cumwhinton and Petteril as well as several other locations At Garsdale the row is stepped in pairs because of the gradient of the road. Langwathby block of 6: https://goo.gl/maps/DhUUuLXFTUx BTW In 1970 those in C21395 were not white! Keith And, as Keith says, the stepped Garsdale cottages... http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/4701151 Bill 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted March 5, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 5, 2017 And, as Keith says, the stepped Garsdale cottages... http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/4701151 Bill Interestingly these in Petteril Terrace are reversed to the public road. The back yards face the road while the fronts open onto a footpath: Back: https://goo.gl/maps/oMqnWoamJbp Front: https://goo.gl/maps/ijunwmRyYZz Likewise these in Armathwaite which also have a variation on porch style: https://goo.gl/maps/a6u3M1Wbf4J2 The Midland Railway workers on the S&C got nice substantial cottages. Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted March 5, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2017 Haworth, on the Keighley and Worth Valley in the early 70s for this afternoons batch of old photos. Haworth LYR Barton Wright 0-6-0ST 752 Aug 72 C1049 Haworth Aug 72 C1051 Haworth Ivatt 2MTT 41241 Keighley to Oxenhope Aug 72 C1054 Haworth Ivatt 2MTT 41241 Aug 72 C1058 Haworth Swedish Austerity Feb 73 C1208 Haworth LT L89 Ivatt 2MTT 41241 May 73 C1247 David 25 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Pannier Tank Posted March 5, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 5, 2017 Love the shot of :- Aisgill LMS 8F 2-8-0 down goods Aug 65 J332 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted March 5, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2017 (edited) Back to Peterborough today for a few more photos at the station. Peterborough Class 08 27th July 74 C1693 eterborough 27th July 74 Class 47 Newcastle to Kings X 27th July 74 C1695 Peterborough Class 31 207 27th July 74 C1708 Peterborough Class 37 Harwich to Peterborough 27th July 74 C1711 Peterborough Class 31 down and Class 47 Leeds to Kings X 27th July 74 C1718 David Edited March 5, 2017 by DaveF 38 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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