RMweb Gold Popular Post JohnR Posted July 5, 2022 RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2022 https://uk.Hornby.com/community/blog-and-news/news/press-release-trains-film Quote Trains on Film PRESS RELEASE July 5, 2022 For several months there has been some speculation concerning the introduction of two Hornby train packs under the sub brand title of ‘Trains on Film’ which both featured, in one form or another the L&MR No.57 ‘Lion’ and associated rolling stock. The films concerned were ‘The Lady with a Lamp’ and ‘The Titfield Thunderbolt’. Hornby Hobbies Ltd. have decided to remove the two ‘Trains of Film’ packs from the Hornby 2022 product range and acknowledges and accepts that Studiocanal owns the licensing rights to the ‘Thunderbolt’ locomotive as depicted in the ‘Titfield Thunderbolt’ film as well as Dan Taylor’s grounded carriage body. Hornby also acknowledges and accepts that Studiocanal owns the title rights to the films ‘Titfield Thunderbolt’ and ‘The Lady with a Lamp’. Along with this, the Bedford Coach within the ‘Trains on Film’ category has also been cancelled. We apologise for any inconvenience caused. 5 2 3 2 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatofludham Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Time for the closing credits and the mad dash for the exits before the National Anthem. Interesting that they have released this. 6 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mike_Walker Posted July 5, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 5, 2022 They were probably instructed to by SC's lawyers. 1 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted July 5, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 5, 2022 1 minute ago, wombatofludham said: Time for the closing credits and the mad dash for the exits before the National Anthem. Interesting that they have released this. Was this public disclosure mandated as part of a legal settlement? 1 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JohnR Posted July 5, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, Oldddudders said: Was this public disclosure mandated as part of a legal settlement? The part where they say Quote acknowledges and accepts that Studiocanal owns the licensing rights to the ‘Thunderbolt’ locomotive as depicted in the ‘Titfield Thunderbolt’ film as well as Dan Taylor’s grounded carriage body. Hornby also acknowledges and accepts that Studiocanal owns the title rights to the films ‘Titfield Thunderbolt’ and ‘The Lady with a Lamp’. suggests they were. 1 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted July 5, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 5, 2022 15 minutes ago, JohnR said: acknowledges and accepts But not apologises . . . . 4 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold jonnyuk Posted July 5, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 5, 2022 interesting Lady with the lamp has been pulled as well, i thought Hornby did have the rights to this, maybe SC pulled that as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireline Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, jonnyuk said: interesting Lady with the lamp has been pulled as well, i thought Hornby did have the rights to this, maybe SC pulled that as well Rapido and SC, between them, made it pretty clear that Hornby didn't. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatofludham Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, jonnyuk said: interesting Lady with the lamp has been pulled as well, i thought Hornby did have the rights to this, maybe SC pulled that as well I suspect that the "Lady with the Lamp" was a bit of a fig-leaf to justify the snipe at the "Titfield Thunderbolt". Given how Hornby usually behave it does make me think they were strong armed into this announcement. 1 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Not a good month for Hornby, alienated most of their Dealers and now the Icing on the Cake admitted breaching Copyrights x2 . Opps 4 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris M Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Hornby haven't done their reputation much good on this. They were clearly trying to get one over their new competitors but didn't think it through properly. Well done Rapido! 5 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold franciswilliamwebb Posted July 5, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 5, 2022 21 minutes ago, PaulRhB said: But not apologises . . . . Twor mee iday doit 🙄 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Hammond Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 I fully expect to see the Locomotive in the 2023 range just badged as "Lion". 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted July 5, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 5, 2022 (edited) Well what a surprise ! I think most folks , except Hornby Management , could see this coming Inspired by ..................No not really Another interesting installment for Channel 5's Hornby: a PR World (I'll bet not !) Edited July 5, 2022 by Legend 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatofludham Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 14 minutes ago, Trevor Hammond said: I fully expect to see the Locomotive in the 2023 range just badged as "Lion". They might but with Rapido already at EP stage with their loco and releasing it separately to the Titfield packs, I do wonder if it will ever see light of day. I suppose it depends as to whether they have got to tooling stage. Might be better f they just wrote off the design work as a gamble that didn't pay off and did a "Planet" or "Patentee" instead. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaGrange Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpplumy Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 very much feels like they were almost held at gunpoint to put this out 🤣. definitely feels forced Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaGrange Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 1 minute ago, gpplumy said: very much feels like they were almost held at gunpoint to put this out 🤣. definitely feels forced Proof they are not the all powerful force they once thought they were. Courts are more powerful than any gun. Will make Series 2 of Hornby Vanity TV more exciting 2 3 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted July 5, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 5, 2022 I wonder if - now that the truth is out in the public arena - anybody in Hornby is finally having to eat some very humble pie? 1 4 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted July 5, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, The Stationmaster said: I wonder if - now that the truth is out in the public arena - anybody in Hornby is finally having to eat some very humble pie? They don’t deserve pie, they should be made to eat plain ryvita. 3 1 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BR Blue Posted July 5, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 5, 2022 55 minutes ago, LaGrange said: Will make Series 2 of Hornby Vanity TV more exciting It definitely would but I do wonder if it will even be mentioned. It depends on how much editorial control they have, if any. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted July 5, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 5, 2022 Someone is getting fired.... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JohnR Posted July 5, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 5, 2022 The statement will have gone through the lawyers, no doubt Hornby's will have wanted it as bland as possible, Studio Canal's will not. So they come to an agreement. I wonder what the cost of the legal side was, and whether it would be reported in the next set of accounts? I would imagine it would also include the cost of SC's lawyers. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted July 5, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, John M Upton said: Someone is getting fired.... My hope, too. Do your homework before going public, or face the consequences. Hornby has got so big for its boots in the modelling world it can’t recall what the real world feels like. This short, sharp shock may have cost a bit in lawyers’ fees, and certainly there will be abortive costs for models and publicity already committed. My heart bleeds. Not. 2 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1andrew1 Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, John M Upton said: Someone is getting fired.... The strange thing is that one Hornby Hobbies' key strengths must be in licensing. Corgi, Scalextric, Airfix, Hornby all depend on a large number of licences in their ranges. So how this unsatisfactory situation could have arisen beggars belief. 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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