RMweb Gold tractionman Posted October 29, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 29, 2019 38 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said: Loads of bargains out there. I've had about twenty emails full of them in the last week.... Jason Just had an email from Hatton's with bargains on 121s, eg https://www.hattons.co.uk/60361/dapol_4d_009_004_class_121_single_car_dmu_bubblecar_w55023_in_br_blue/stockdetail.aspx Cheers, Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Here's another if you like bigger things. £300 off Heljan Prairie Tanks. https://railsofsheffield.com/news/articles/3201-bargain-o-61xx-prairie-tanks Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojmiasto Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 43 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said: Here's another if you like bigger things. £300 off Heljan Prairie Tanks. https://railsofsheffield.com/news/articles/3201-bargain-o-61xx-prairie-tanks Jason Thanks Jason, but have you ever thought to ask yourself how a retailer can suddenly afford to slash 43% off an item and still be returning a profit? Clearly someone has been to SCS and thought 'why don't we try that?'... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 2 hours ago, Trojmiasto said: Thanks Jason, but have you ever thought to ask yourself how a retailer can suddenly afford to slash 43% off an item and still be returning a profit? Clearly someone has been to SCS and thought 'why don't we try that?'... They've probably sold enough to break even and are now getting rid of stock which is difficult to shift. £300 in the till is better than £600 sitting on the shelf taking up space that could be used for something else. Especially since it's coming up to Christmas. Jason 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 3 hours ago, Trojmiasto said: Thanks Jason, but have you ever thought to ask yourself how a retailer can suddenly afford to slash 43% off an item and still be returning a profit? Clearly someone has been to SCS and thought 'why don't we try that?'... But SCS don't sell other people's products, Rails do. This is more to do with Heljan's large profit margin rather than it being a con trick by Rails. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Profit margin at most retailers is 100% mark up. Hence the room to play with prices, when they cant sell a item . 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
girlinb Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, micklner said: Profit margin at most retailers is 100% mark up. Hence the room to play with prices, when they cant sell a item . No it isn't at its normally more like 50% mark up so after around 33% discount from RRP its a loss. Thats based on experience of working in a model railway shop some years ago What does happen is suppliers drop their price to shift stock so retailers can buy cheaper and then reduce the price of remaining stock to either break even on what they have left or average out the price across remaining and new stock 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Anyway, this place is for bargains not business plans...... Just sayin' 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojmiasto Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 hour ago, leopardml2341 said: Anyway, this place is for bargains not business plans...... Just sayin' Not wishing to stray from the topic - just trying to emphasize the difference between knocked off markup and a bargain. To just suddenly drop 40% off a price is certainly a bargain, but if it was over inflated by that much in the first instance, then is it really a bargain? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 2 hours ago, micklner said: Profit margin at most retailers is 100% mark up. Hence the room to play with prices, when they cant sell a item . Silly Boy !!!!!!!!!!! I think you will find its Heljan who are in a panic to get rid of them before other new products arrive. This is good for the customer but a disaster for small retailers who did not even buy them for that price.. Sadly Heljan do not seem to give a toss about small retailers that's why I dont get Heljan anymore. Charlie 1 2 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbox321 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 16 hours ago, Steamport Southport said: Loads of bargains out there. I've had about twenty emails full of them in the last week.... Jason Only seen the Bubble Cars, Bachmann Steam(thats been around for ages) and Heljan Prarie as bargains. Have not herd of anything else on chuck out. Maybe Hattons will have a pre-Brexit sale of the century? LOL! Regards, C. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widnes Model Centre Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 11 hours ago, micklner said: Profit margin at most retailers is 100% mark up. Hence the room to play with prices, when they cant sell a item . This cheered me up no end. Now we know just why model railway shops are opening up all over the place. Next year we'll be millionaires..... 2 8 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 53 minutes ago, Widnes Model Centre said: This cheered me up no end. Now we know just why model railway shops are opening up all over the place. Next year we'll be millionaires..... Maybe if you didn't pay rent, rates, tax, employ people, sit in the dark with no heating and not have any banking facilities only dealing in cash. Mark up on wholesale (whatever the true percentage is) does not equal profit. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maico Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 (edited) On 25/10/2019 at 20:36, stovepipe said: I looked straightaway £86, one has sold and the price has gone up. The usual Amazon thing, especially when a lot of people are looking? I think the Amazon automatic pricing logarithm kicks in if the item is sitting in an amazon warehouse, being sold by them and is not shifting. So it tends to apply to items where there is little demand or Amazon themselves misdescribe it and few people can find it. A good example would be something like a inox drill brush made by the German company Pferd. Amazon list whole catalogues of specialist tools. If there are no takers the price starts reducing by circa 4.7% overnight until some buys. In that case it shoots straight back up to retail. If there are no takers it can continue to fall until 1/4 retail is reached then it shoots back to retail. I've observed this with some unpopular binoculars. The next time the process started I got them for £220 not £930 ! This is a rare event though because Amazon UK is linked to the Amazon European sites and well before drastic discounts someone else will buy, particularly if it is known brand name in Europe. Unfortunately Amazon doesn't seem to stock model trains to any great depth. If you are planning to pick up a Trix Union Pacific Big Boy for £200 you are out of luck... The other day I came across a business on ebay that was clearly just relisting amazon descriptions word for word complete with mistakes. They have clearly worked out a pricing structure for Ebay, supplied by Amazon that in long run might be profitable. Edited October 30, 2019 by maico Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roddy Angus Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Hi I have just received notification from Harburn Hobbies in Edinburgh that are hosting a Peco and Bachmann pre-Christmas promotional event on Friday 8th & Saturday 9th November 2019 (9.30am - 6.00pm both days). Steve Haynes, Peco's Sales Manager, will be available to answer any questions and he will have a working example of the new Peco turntable motor and the new Peco twist lock point motor for inspection. There will also be up to 20% off most Peco, Parkside, Bachmann and Graham Farish products (in shop purchases only). Normally the 20% does not apply to newer models which are still covered by manufacturers’ restrictions on discounts. There will also be a free prize draw to win Harburn Hobbies Gift Vouchers. Regards Roddy 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 (edited) Not a bargain as such, but... From 7th November, Aldi will be selling a Hornby trainset. Its the "Intercity Express" set*, previously offered by Argos for £99.99. Aldi is offering it for £79.99, they will also have a Scalextric set too, at £69.99. The only disappointment is that the Hornby items will only be available online, and not in store, which would have been a bit more profile-raising for Hornby. * Railroad level 3 unit Javelin train. Edited November 2, 2019 by Hroth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1980 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 On 01/11/2019 at 14:54, Hroth said: Not a bargain as such, but... From 7th November, Aldi will be selling a Hornby trainset. Its the "Intercity Express" set*, previously offered by Argos for £99.99. Aldi is offering it for £79.99, they will also have a Scalextric set too, at £69.99. The only disappointment is that the Hornby items will only be available online, and not in store, which would have been a bit more profile-raising for Hornby. * Railroad level 3 unit Javelin train. sadly anything on sale in Aldi or Lidl just gets ripped open and destroyed after a day 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold colin penfold Posted November 3, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 3, 2019 Had the latest notification of Bure Valley Models' bargains including a BR sound fitted castle for £115 http://www.burevalleymodels.com/p/9830/R3383TTS---BR-Castle-5050-Earl-of-St-Germans-TTS-Sound-Fitted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crompton 33 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Poundland now have Hot glue guns back in stock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 4, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 4, 2019 4 hours ago, crompton 33 said: Poundland now have Hot glue guns back in stock. How much are they? Sorry - couldn't resist! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted November 4, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 4, 2019 On 30/10/2019 at 14:42, maico said: I think the Amazon automatic pricing logarithm kicks in if the item is sitting in an amazon warehouse, being sold by them and is not shifting. So it tends to apply to items where there is little demand or Amazon themselves misdescribe it and few people can find it. A good example would be something like a inox drill brush made by the German company Pferd. Amazon list whole catalogues of specialist tools. If there are no takers the price starts reducing by circa 4.7% overnight until some buys. In that case it shoots straight back up to retail. If there are no takers it can continue to fall until 1/4 retail is reached then it shoots back to retail. I've observed this with some unpopular binoculars. The next time the process started I got them for £220 not £930 ! This is a rare event though because Amazon UK is linked to the Amazon European sites and well before drastic discounts someone else will buy, particularly if it is known brand name in Europe. Unfortunately Amazon doesn't seem to stock model trains to any great depth. If you are planning to pick up a Trix Union Pacific Big Boy for £200 you are out of luck... The other day I came across a business on ebay that was clearly just relisting amazon descriptions word for word complete with mistakes. They have clearly worked out a pricing structure for Ebay, supplied by Amazon that in long run might be profitable. Did that with a Hornby Ince castle a few years ago - it got down to £75 before my finger twitched! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirey33 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 39 minutes ago, newbryford said: How much are they? Sorry - couldn't resist! Ask if they'll price match the 99p shop. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted November 4, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 4, 2019 On 03/11/2019 at 07:27, colin penfold said: Had the latest notification of Bure Valley Models' bargains including a BR sound fitted castle for £115 http://www.burevalleymodels.com/p/9830/R3383TTS---BR-Castle-5050-Earl-of-St-Germans-TTS-Sound-Fitted Great, thanks for that.......wasn’t going to buy any more Locos until my layout is at least running, especially large kettles......but for that price, it is a bargain. now don’t post any more “bargains” until after next pension day please 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nile Posted November 5, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 5, 2019 17 hours ago, newbryford said: How much are they? Sorry - couldn't resist! Not such a daft question, there seem to be plenty of things that cost more a pound in there. -- As for the 99p shop, guess who bought and then closed that. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 4 hours ago, Nile said: Not such a daft question, there seem to be plenty of things that cost more a pound in there. -- As for the 99p shop, guess who bought and then closed that. Correct. They were selling big electric heaters in the Birmingham branch last year for about £50. The young lad did laugh when we offered him a £1 for one. He'd probably not heard that one before. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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