RMweb Premium Phil Mc Posted September 5, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 5, 2018 Not done much lately, Sunshine and holidays taking up too much modelling time ! Have managed to finish the rest of the parcels vans that have been renumbered, using the same method as the previous ones. Cheers, Phil. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northmoor Posted September 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 5, 2018 Not done much lately, Sunshine and holidays taking up too much modelling time ! Have managed to finish the rest of the parcels vans that have been renumbered, using the same method as the previous ones. Cheers, Phil. Scroll these photos up and down quickly - wow, psychedelia! Nice work. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Phil Mc Posted September 10, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 10, 2018 I'm guessing I've not been the only one working on a model of this loco lately ! Plates on, ploughs fastened to chassis, pipework added (coupling and pipes all hung up, just to please Bradford Buffer !!), slight shading to grilles and recesses, and a gentle blow-over with the airbrush. Oh, and the driver now has a hi-vis jacket. Cheers, Phil. 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradfordbuffer Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 I'm guessing I've not been the only one working on a model of this loco lately ! Plates on, ploughs fastened to chassis, pipework added (coupling and pipes all hung up, just to please Bradford Buffer !!), slight shading to grilles and recesses, and a gentle blow-over with the airbrush. Oh, and the driver now has a hi-vis jacket. Cheers, Phil. Top draw work Phil....at least some one is taking notice with the droopy bits....that shouldn't be droopy at all....'but correctly stowed using brackets or chains as supplied ' G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Phil Mc Posted September 16, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 16, 2018 (edited) Having a bit of a retro Spoon-fest on the workbench ! Got 47436, 47444, 47628 & 47832 to get ready to go into service. 47832- I had for haulage in Mainline livery, so that can stay as it is. 47628- I had for haulage in GW150 Green, so that can stay as it is. 47444- was a regular on the TransPennine services when I used to do West Yorkshire Rovers on a Saturday, so that can stay as it is. 47436- the plan for this was always to renumber it to 47456, which was another TransPennine regular, and also featured on a couple of the Settle-Carlisle services hauled by freight loco's, as shown in my pic below. So a set of numbers were ordered from Railtec to achieve this. A couple of days after placing the order, I get an email from Steve (Railtec) saying he's looked at pics of the loco & noticed the '6' is slightly larger than the other numbers, and he'll replicate this unless I particularly want all standard size numbers ! It's such a small detail I'd never noticed it, even on my pic that's more or less staring at the number !! Of course I want to replicate this, now I know about it ! The transfers arrived a few days later, and I've renumbered the model, so all 4 loco's are at the same point in the detailing process, and can be worked on together. Big thanks to Steve for such great service & attention to detail !! Cheers, Phil. Edited September 16, 2018 by Phil Mc 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted September 17, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 17, 2018 My art teacher taught me that numbers such as 0, 3, 6, 8, 9 that have curved top and bottom should be slightly taller than the straight topped numbers and that they should be lined up along the horizontal centre. The 6 in the prototype pic looks larger because the bottom edge of the 6 is level with the other numbers. If the 6 was set slightly lower, it would look "normal" This is a very good example of what I mean. https://www.flickr.com/photos/83304156@N03/38831198630/in/photolist-22ao3uE-275Qfck-25nYsxW-KeZUQa-acJR6i-26TARDy-273zzaw-25G88gU-25Brx36-25Kys8J-N29mh1-My8qAW-26RuSg2-24eUD1P-22RXMyu-LB4m1v-LhQ4b3-29fsqzQ-LGruKa-LKdFw9-KDmXyr-FBGX8R-24dKbNT-28tEdTu-273VJPm-24fG48r-24vp95o-FLcfMz-27Xz7NH-24vMnyo-FT78uM-KLbGm1-qSBNzz-HsaZH1-27d2zgP-27YpVFo-28ZjYNg-Hth3qC-NgCb1j-28GKzDP-25c1h4b-Nf2bAJ-KGx9a8-27zVWdo-25qPsk2-GQTmDJ-KEHryi-27Px87S-25zfxh9-28zdjvN Cheers, Mick 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbox321 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 My art teacher taught me that numbers such as 0, 3, 6, 8, 9 that have curved top and bottom should be slightly taller than the straight topped numbers and that they should be lined up along the horizontal centre. The 6 in the prototype pic looks larger because the bottom edge of the 6 is level with the other numbers. If the 6 was set slightly lower, it would look "normal" This is a very good example of what I mean. https://www.flickr.com/photos/83304156@N03/38831198630/in/photolist-22ao3uE-275Qfck-25nYsxW-KeZUQa-acJR6i-26TARDy-273zzaw-25G88gU-25Brx36-25Kys8J-N29mh1-My8qAW-26RuSg2-24eUD1P-22RXMyu-LB4m1v-LhQ4b3-29fsqzQ-LGruKa-LKdFw9-KDmXyr-FBGX8R-24dKbNT-28tEdTu-273VJPm-24fG48r-24vp95o-FLcfMz-27Xz7NH-24vMnyo-FT78uM-KLbGm1-qSBNzz-HsaZH1-27d2zgP-27YpVFo-28ZjYNg-Hth3qC-NgCb1j-28GKzDP-25c1h4b-Nf2bAJ-KGx9a8-27zVWdo-25qPsk2-GQTmDJ-KEHryi-27Px87S-25zfxh9-28zdjvN Cheers, Mick Always knew the corrugated sides on a Shed would some day have a use! Will have to have a look at an EWS one now..... P.S. Are Hattons aware...... Regards, C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted September 17, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 17, 2018 (edited) This is a flat sided loco. I know you shouldn't do it on a photograph that may be subject to distortion, but a straight edge along the top and bottom edges highlights it as well. https://www.flickr.com/photos/gbrailphotos/11615323816/in/photolist-iGpz6J-jsYyiQ-qz5sjB-85K9TE-rZdca8-FiouMV-e789iR-doqRfX-8j7pLp-cB2Uy5-knFCm5-nVg1We-7o29wp-GJo6T9-aYPs72-8j3PYM-28zCxBH-Unc9BA-a6isdx-99s2cy-fxMyjA-cTBHFq-JB2QrC-64WZRF-cEffYu-anxSJp-f1dYCC-27Euqku-dYa6UF-21ZxKEt-27bnZcG-acVGCZ-dwtZYn-28ApcnU-hjEKcx-YpqjEJ-ba6eke-eujVfw-fxMgS9-nNAjyR-27ghkCY-anzj6o-qsrkJi-cGDjSJ-9nLjNB-ebGWcB-85G1uz-bXiXNd-28V5Mdk-qigGMc And the other side of 47456 is just as bad.... Cheers, Mick Edited September 17, 2018 by newbryford 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
railtec-models Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 My art teacher taught me that numbers such as 0, 3, 6, 8, 9 that have curved top and bottom should be slightly taller than the straight topped numbers and that they should be lined up along the horizontal centre. The 6 in the prototype pic looks larger because the bottom edge of the 6 is level with the other numbers. If the 6 was set slightly lower, it would look "normal" This is a very good example of what I mean. https://www.flickr.com/photos/83304156@N03/38831198630/in/photolist-22ao3uE-275Qfck-25nYsxW-KeZUQa-acJR6i-26TARDy-273zzaw-25G88gU-25Brx36-25Kys8J-N29mh1-My8qAW-26RuSg2-24eUD1P-22RXMyu-LB4m1v-LhQ4b3-29fsqzQ-LGruKa-LKdFw9-KDmXyr-FBGX8R-24dKbNT-28tEdTu-273VJPm-24fG48r-24vp95o-FLcfMz-27Xz7NH-24vMnyo-FT78uM-KLbGm1-qSBNzz-HsaZH1-27d2zgP-27YpVFo-28ZjYNg-Hth3qC-NgCb1j-28GKzDP-25c1h4b-Nf2bAJ-KGx9a8-27zVWdo-25qPsk2-GQTmDJ-KEHryi-27Px87S-25zfxh9-28zdjvN Cheers, Mick If I look at the image at full res it looks like the bottom of the 6 is in line with the bottom of the 5, esp given the angle of the image - but that's just to my eye. In fact if anything it looks like the 6 is set ever so slightly lower than the 5. It wasn't uncommon for LL 47s to have a mix of Crewe and Glasgow sized numbers. 47535 with both 5s the larger size: https://www.flickr.com/photos/40011/15844327474/ 47488 with larger 8s: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ndl642m/8625763488/ 47458 with an oddball 5: https://www.flickr.com/photos/callysleeperkid/8605432743/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Phil Mc Posted September 17, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 17, 2018 Well I've learnt a few things here, one of them being that Mick actually went to school !! Cheers, Phil. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted September 17, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 17, 2018 Well I've learnt a few things here, one of them being that Mick actually went to school !! Cheers, Phil. And paid attention. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Phil Mc Posted September 21, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 21, 2018 I've never used a 'wash' on a loco that's going to be fairly heavily weathered, so I thought I'd give it a go to see if I like it !! Wash applied to 456, 444 still pristine. We'll see how it ends up. Cheers, Phil. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Phil Mc Posted September 22, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 22, 2018 Well, I think that the 'wash' is worth the extra effort, but anyone else's opinion would be appreciated ! I've re-used the bufferbeam jumper cable boxes, by re-positioning them to match the prototype, and used the pipework supplied by Bachmann. If I manage to get hold of some 'cut-out' style fuel tanks, which this loco should have, I'll swap them, otherwise it's ready for service. Once again, thanks to Steve at Railtec for his efforts, allowing me to recreate a subtle difference on an otherwise run-of-the-mill loco. Cheers, Phil. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan product fan Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 looks very good mate the roof detail on 456 looks just right . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdw7300 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Looking really good Phil. I think the wash adds a bit more depth, helps highlight the shadows. Thanks for sharing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Phil Mc Posted September 23, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 23, 2018 As well as the roof, I also ran the wash around the headlight, marker lights recess, cab door shut-lines, central door shut-line, into the bodyside step recesses, and over the door kickplates. It's not much, but I do think it adds something to the overall look. Cheers, Phil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradfordbuffer Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 There's a image for you mick at school ...grey shorts..snotty nose...grazed knee...pocket full of konkers...a 6x4 slate tucked under his arm..... don't you love 1890's.! Trainspotting after school at local station....platform ticket in hand ready for inspection! Well I've learnt a few things here, one of them being that Mick actually went to school !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Phil Mc Posted September 30, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 30, 2018 Got a bit done to the Spoons. Weathering wash added where appropriate, sealed in with varnish. On 628 & 832 the bodysides have had satin, 444's had matt, & all the underframes have had matt. Pic doesn't show the difference particularly well !! I've swapped the cab interiors round in a couple of them, so the driver isn't at the same end of them all ! I'll leave them a couple of days for varnish to fully cure, before adding nameplates and pipework. Cheers, Phil. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradfordbuffer Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Got a bit done to the Spoons. Weathering wash added where appropriate, sealed in with varnish. On 628 & 832 the bodysides have had satin, 444's had matt, & all the underframes have had matt. Pic doesn't show the difference particularly well !! I've swapped the cab interiors round in a couple of them, so the driver isn't at the same end of them all ! I'll leave them a couple of days for varnish to fully cure, before adding nameplates and pipework. Cheers, Phil. Got a bit done to the Spoons. Weathering wash added where appropriate, sealed in with varnish. On 628 & 832 the bodysides have had satin, 444's had matt, & all the underframes have had matt. Pic doesn't show the difference particularly well !! I've swapped the cab interiors round in a couple of them, so the driver isn't at the same end of them all ! I'll leave them a couple of days for varnish to fully cure, before adding nameplates and pipework. Cheers, Phil. Phil, loving your work on your 47s but my degree in ocd traits detects and patten that you showed with your class 50s models ... a model of every on in class?....put the 47s down and seek professional help....life too short...you have my number ring and talk! There is help for spoon collectors....(I've had help with my addiction....I can now visit aldi without buying a new power tool...I've 6 power operated saws! I got help so can you) G. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Phil Mc Posted October 2, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 2, 2018 Phil, loving your work on your 47s but my degree in ocd traits detects and patten that you showed with your class 50s models ... a model of every on in class?....put the 47s down and seek professional help....life too short...you have my number ring and talk! There is help for spoon collectors.... (I've had help with my addiction....I can now visit aldi without buying a new power tool...I've 6 power operated saws! I got help so can you) G. No no, I can handle it, I can handle it, it's not an obsession, and I'll stop when the fun stops !! Anyway, I haven't got models of all the 50's, only 46 of them.............. ........after my last delivery of numbers from Railtec, can you guess what the next batch of 4 loco's to cross my workbench might be ? Cheers, Phil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradfordbuffer Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 No no, I can handle it, I can handle it, it's not an obsession, and I'll stop when the fun stops !! Anyway, I haven't got models of all the 50's, only 46 of them.............. ........after my last delivery of numbers from Railtec, can you guess what the next batch of 4 loco's to cross my workbench might be ? Cheers, Phil. 4 locos on bench at same time? You must have...quadrificationworkbenchatites.! Keep taking pillsI've also a confession,[as long as no one else is watching your work bench and you don't tell any one] I went to Aldi yesterday for dog treats honesty! I picked up a bench router table! The only reason I didn't buy it.....was I had at a basket not a trolley.....phew nearly had a relapse ...close call, it could of sat in the garage next to the unused router....the curse of the blue tool! G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradfordbuffer Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 No no, I can handle it, I can handle it, it's not an obsession, and I'll stop when the fun stops !! Anyway, I haven't got models of all the 50's, only 46 of them.............. ........after my last delivery of numbers from Railtec, can you guess what the next batch of 4 loco's to cross my workbench might be ? Cheers, Phil. Just clicked in my head! Is 46 plus 4 more = English electric type 4 top trumps complete set?G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted October 3, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 3, 2018 Just clicked in my head! Is 46 plus 4 more = English electric type 4 top trumps complete set? G I bet you ran out of fingers working that out...………….. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Phil Mc Posted October 3, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 3, 2018 Just clicked in my head! Is 46 plus 4 more = English electric type 4 top trumps complete set? G Certainly is !! Day off work tomorrow, to visit a certain gala that's happening. Cheers, Phil. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradfordbuffer Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 I bet you ran out of fingers working that out...………….. NO I DID NOT, used my own hands...wife's...dogs paws and fruit in the bowl....so there! G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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