RMweb Gold teaky Posted December 16, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 16, 2016 All 3 in stock at Rails of Sheffield. Alan Still cheaper at Derails Alan. Their prices have not increased. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benachie Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) Still cheaper at Derails Alan. Their prices have not increased. Well, cheaper at Rails on preorder! And Derails just says "due imminently". Alan Edited December 16, 2016 by benachie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pint of Adnams Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Now in stock at Bure Valley Models at £120 for each version Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold teaky Posted December 16, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) Well, cheaper at Rails on preorder! And Derails just says "due imminently". Alan Correct, but only 25p less when I looked. This was just in case you or anyone else had yet to order. (Whilst typing this, it looks like Pint of Adnams has found somewhere cheaper.) I'm guessing Dan has yet to update the Derails website. He called me this morning to say mine was in the post. Edit: Derails website now updated to show LNER and late BR in stock with more early BR on order. Edited December 16, 2016 by teaky 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOTTODDY Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Correct, but only 25p less when I looked. This was just in case you or anyone else had yet to order. (Whilst typing this, it looks like Pint of Adnams has found somewhere cheaper.) I'm guessing Dan has yet to update the Derails website. He called me this morning to say mine was in the post. Same here, It should arrive on Monday. Exciting stuff!!! Tod 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdh1950 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Early BR - 61533 just arrived! Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted December 16, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 16, 2016 Hi. Just bought mind from Rails. It is the LNER green version, and it is very smooth and quiet, just as expected with two flywheels. Photos and a video will follow later today. Regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted December 16, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 16, 2016 Just been into town, and on my return a message on the answerphone to say the local model shop have got one reserved for me. Oh well, I'm sure I can wait until tomorrow! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted December 16, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 16, 2016 Hereford Model Centre have them in stock for £127.95, but shush don't tell anyone (Having just ordered a late crest one) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Derails Models Posted December 16, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 16, 2016 Correct, but only 25p less when I looked. This was just in case you or anyone else had yet to order. (Whilst typing this, it looks like Pint of Adnams has found somewhere cheaper.) I'm guessing Dan has yet to update the Derails website. He called me this morning to say mine was in the post. Correct, it's been in updated the past hour, however we have sold out of BR early until later in the week! Unfortunately we were one member of staff down today - usually the other two pack and I do order admin - so today was especially hectic, hence our website not being updated until recently. Most of the orders that could be shipped have been, the few remaining BR versions that missed the courier today (typical - had to come early on a busy day...) will be leaving first thing on Monday morning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pint of Adnams Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Hereford Model Centre have them in stock for £127.95, but shush don't tell anyone (Having just ordered a late crest one) I won't - not when they are £7.95 cheaper in Swedeyland! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted December 16, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 16, 2016 I won't - not when they are £7.95 cheaper in Swedeyland! Still cheaper than Rails/Hattons & Hornby (even with discount) and at least I'll get a certificate to say it's been tested Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted December 16, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 16, 2016 Well here are the photo's I've taken of the LNER liveried B12/3. I took with my iPad. I hope you will find them of interest. The video is to follow, it just takes a while to upload to YouTube. Best regards, Rob. P.S. I know about the 'gap' between the bottom of the boiler and the top of it, and I will try to close it up, or disguise it, at a later date. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted December 16, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 16, 2016 And finally, the video: Best regards, Rob. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold teaky Posted December 17, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 17, 2016 Well my B12 from Derails won't be arriving on Monday now as it has just been delivered! Nice to see a little note in the box indicating that it had been tested before dispatch too. What a beauty. Well done Hornby. As per Market65's post above, the joint underneath the boiler needs a little attention to disguise it better. The photographs make it more obvious than in real life though. When did Hornby stop providing front couplings? I don't meant the hook and bar but a screw link one. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 (edited) A very attractive model and well done Hornby. To put the icing on the cake, I would fit a set of Markits bogie wheels with a large boss, which would markedly improve the look of the front end. Edited December 17, 2016 by coachmann 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted December 17, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 17, 2016 Picked up mine from Monk Bar Models this morning; they had all three versions in stock. What a beauty, and smooth virtually silent running straight from the box! Interesting to see that several details which were moulded on on the D16 are separate items on this model, such as the vertical pipe on the smokebox side. Suspect the 'joint' on the underside of the boiler may be more apparent on the green version - I didn't particularly notice it on my black one. Will have a closer look later. When did Hornby stop providing front couplings? I don't meant the hook and bar but a screw link one. I don't think either of my D16s included screw couplings for the front buffer beam - I had to 'find' some! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted December 17, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 17, 2016 A very attractive model and well done Hornby. To put the icing on the cake, I would fit a set of Markits bogie wheels with a large boss, which would markedly improve the look of the front end. Do you happen to know the reference number for them Larry? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nile Posted December 17, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 17, 2016 Excellent service from Hereford. I ordered two from them yesterday around 2pm, posted within the hour they arrived here before 9 this morning. I dug out one of the Chinese made models of the previous version for comparison, and took some photos which I'm sure you are all eager to see. It should be obvious which is the new one! 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 Well here are the photo's I've taken of the LNER liveried B12/3. ... I hope you will find them of interest. IMG_0296 - Copy.JPG ... I know about the 'gap' between the bottom of the boiler and the top of it, and I will try to close it up, or disguise it, at a later date. Very handy that underside view. I suspect I will be making a new drawbar to space off loco and tender at scale separation, since the supplied one looks like it will saw through the wires whichever way around it is used, if operation is attempted at the scale option. It may well be possible to go one better and re-jig it all so the drawbar goes into the drag boxes; with the overall appearance so good, this sort of fiddling around icing the cake is well justifiable. I expect that the slight 'reveal' of the inset bottom of the boiler will be 'disappearable' by slight adjustment of the contacting surfaces where the body interior rests on the mechanism. This worked easily on the J15, and would have been equally possible on the D16/3 but was not required on my specimen. And are those splashers behind the rear bogie wheels? Don't recall that detail in any previous RTR model of any class. Now Hornby, about the B16... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 Do you happen to know the reference number for them Larry? Hi James, Markits reference: BR13BS 13mm LMS/BR 3ft 3ins 10 spoke bogie. The real ones on the B12 were 3ft 3ins Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted December 17, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 17, 2016 Very handy that underside view. I suspect I will be making a new drawbar to space off loco and tender at scale separation, since the supplied one looks like it will saw through the wires whichever way around it is used, if operation is attempted at the scale option. It may well be possible to go one better and re-jig it all so the drawbar goes into the drag boxes; with the overall appearance so good, this sort of fiddling around icing the cake is well justifiable. I expect that the slight 'reveal' of the inset bottom of the boiler will be 'disappearable' by slight adjustment of the contacting surfaces where the body interior rests on the mechanism. This worked easily on the J15, and would have been equally possible on the D16/3 but was not required on my specimen. And are those splashers behind the rear bogie wheels? Don't recall that detail in any previous RTR model of any class. Now Hornby, about the B16... I've set the drawbar at the 'close' position on mine and it traverses all the curves on my layout without further alteration; I think the end of the drawbar just clears the wires (unlike on the J15 where I cut off the unnecessary bit at the end). I reminded myself that I didn't cut the ends off on either of my D16s, and so far the wiring has survived! I might however think about making a new drawbar altogether as I think the gap could be closed up a bit more than even the 'short' position allows for, but will have to look up what the 'gap' actually was on the real locos. Yes, they are the bogie wheel splashers. First reaction is they look a bit 'outboard' but it may be that they are set to scale distance so the 16.5mm wheels are well shy of them. Nice to see this detail though, along with many others! By the way, if you don't want a coupling pocket on the front of the bogie, it will just spin round so that the pocket faces backwards! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 (edited) Shown on LNER outline diagrams, as seven and a half inches between frame ends, or alternatively 8'3" 7'9" between trailing coupled axle and leading tender axle centres, or 48'3" total wheelbase of loco and tender. ERROR corrected. For some inexplicable reason ability to perform basic arithmetic apparently departed me at time of original posting... Edited December 19, 2016 by 34theletterbetweenB&D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted December 17, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 17, 2016 Thank you; I'll do some measuring up later! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted December 17, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 17, 2016 By the way, if you don't want a coupling pocket on the front of the bogie, it will just spin round so that the pocket faces backwards! Or a few minutes work with a dremel will get rid of it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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