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Full power ahead for Bachmann in 2010

 

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Bachmann Europe Plc today announced its plans for 2010 at the annual trade event the Model & Hobby Show held in Coventry.

 

The Bachmann Branchline range of OO scale models will see the release of two new steam locomotives in the form of the Somerset & Dorset Joint Railway 7f 2-8-0 and Johnson 3F 0-6-0. For the first time, Branchline will see the release of two items to work underneath overhead catenary with the release of a Class 85 electric locomotive and a Class 350 electric multiple unit representing 40 years of electric power on the West Coast Main Line. On the diesel front there is the previously announced Freightliner Powerhaul Class 70 locomotive and a new first generation diesel multiple unit, the Derby Lightweight. The Class 37/0 locomotives are also being upgraded with a new body shell tooling which incorporates lighting for the first time.

 

New wagons include the OTA timber wagon, BAA bogie steel coil carrying bogie wagons, FNA nuclear flask wagon, LNER steel high sided open wagon and a new range of LNER ventilated vans.

 

The Graham Farish N scale range will see the introduction of the Deltic Prototype locomotive (DP1), Class 03 diesel shunter and new tooling for SO, SK, BSK and CK Mark 1 coach types.

 

The Scenecraft OO scale range sees the introduction of a new 4-road steam locomotive depot, coaling stage, inspection pit, carriage shed and Art Deco station buildings.

 

These models will be released over the next 18 months.

 

 

Full steam ahead over the Mendips

 

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The 7F 2-8-0 was produced by the Midland Railway at Derby for the Somerset & Dorset Joint Railway in which it had a fifty percent share with the London & South Western Railway. The main line from Bath to Bournemouth included the Mendip Hills and it was essential for a heavy freight locomotive to be built to avoid costly double heading of less powerful types over the demanding terrain. Six locomotives were delivered in 1914 (No’s 80 – 85) with a further five being delivered in 1925 which had larger boilers, with construction sub-contracted to Robert Stephenson & Co. Ltd becoming No’s 86-90. All were taken into LMS stock in 1928 and in British Railways days after 1948 were numbered 53800 - 53810.

 

The 7F’s became synonymous with the route and could often be seen on passenger trains, particularly taking holidaymakers to Bournemouth during the Summer. The first locomotive was withdrawn in 1959 and the last in 1964. Two examples have been preserved, both having languished in the famous Barry scrap yard. No. 53808 was the first to be rescued by The Somerset & Dorset Trust in 1968 and the second No. 53809 privately in 1975. Both are active on Heritage Lines, 53808 being based on the West Somerset Railway and 53809 from the Midland Railway Centre at Butterley is currently at work on loan to the North Yorkshire Moors Railway.

 

Three versions will initially be available in BR livery 53806 with early emblem (31-010), the preserved example 53809 with late crest (31-011) and 53808 with late crest and weathered (31-012). All feature the smaller boiler and S & D Fowler tender without water pick up apparatus.

 

 

Johnson 3F – a Midland workhorse

 

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The 3F Class 0-6-0 tender locomotives of the Midland Railway were built over a large number of years. Some 935 locomotives were in existence at one time, many rebuilt from earlier 2F 0-6-0 types and others with minor differences between each type.

 

The subject of the Bachmann model is the Midland Railway M Class of which 335 were produced by a number of manufacturers namely Sharp Stewart; Neilson; Kitson; Vulcan Foundry and Dubs. They were delivered between 1892 and 1902. Like all 3F Class locomotives they underwent considerable rebuilding during their lifetime.

 

During their working life they could be seen all over the former Midland Railway system (Midland division of both the LMS and BR) from Swansea to Sheffield and from Templecombe to Carnforth.

 

The 3F’s enjoyed a long life, the last remaining in service until 1964. Sadly none of these old workhorses survived the cutters torch.

 

Three versions will be available initially as 3502 in LMS livery (31-627), 43186 in BR livery with early emblem (31-626) and 43586 in BR livery with late crest (31-625). The tender is the modified 3250 gallons Johnson type.

 

Derby Lightweight joins the first generation DMU fleet

 

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A new 2 car DMU is being introduced in the form of the original Derby Lightweight of which 97 were built by BR workshops at Derby between 1954 and 1956. These pioneering units paved the way under the BR Modernisation Plan of 1955 for the withdrawal of steam locomotives and coaches on branch, cross country and suburban routes. As newer units came on stream, the last unit was withdrawn in 1969 and they were designated as a Class under the 1971 TOPS renumbering scheme.

 

They saw extensive use across the system including the West Riding of Yorkshire; Cumbria; East London; West Midlands; South Midlands; East Anglia and Lincolnshire. Following withdrawal some units were utilised for departmental service. A two car unit has been preserved at the Midland Railway Centre at Butterley where it is undergoing restoration.

 

Three examples will be available in BR green with yellow ends (32-515), BR green with speed whiskers (32-516) and BR blue (32-517) with DMBS and DTC cars modelled.

 

 

Class 85 goes under the wires

 

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2010 sees the introduction of a 25Kv AC powered locomotive for the first time. These operate from the overhead line system and were originally designated AL5.

 

The Class 85 locomotives were built for the electrification of West Coast Main Line services between Liverpool / Manchester / Birmingham and London Euston in the early 1960’s. 40 locomotives were built between June 1961 and December 1964 by British Rail workshops at Doncaster. Initially numbered E3056 – E3095 they later received TOPS numbers and were designated Class 85 becoming 85001 – 85040.

 

The 100 mph Class 85 locomotives were used on a variety of mixed traffic work (passenger, freight and parcels) over the electrified route. Fourteen of the Class were later downgraded to 80 mph to work freight trains for Railfreight Distribution and renumbered in the 85/1 series due to later delivery of the Class 90 locomotives. The Class was withdrawn between July 1984 and November 1991. One locomotive survived scrapping thanks initially to Pete Waterman and is now owned by the AC Locomotive Group based at Barrow Hill.

 

Three versions will be produced as the original AL5 E3058 in BR electric blue with twin pantographs (31-676), E3056 in BR blue with pre-TOPS numbers (31-677) and 85026 in BR blue with TOPS numbering (31-678).

 

 

First modern 25Kv modern EMU from Bachmann

 

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From the current West Coast operation comes the Siemens Class 350 electric multiple unit now in service with London Midland and operating out of the Siemens depot at Northampton. A member of the Desiro family of trains built by Siemens for use in the UK, the Class 350’s were originally part of the order for additional Class 450 units for South West Trains. Comprising of 30 four car units operating from the 25Kv overhead line system, they were initially fitted with dual overhead and third rail current collection systems. They were introduced into the former Central Trains and Silverlink franchises then coming to an end and earmarked for a combined franchise. These units carried an interim unbranded livery but have now been repainted in the colours of the current operator London Midland. The third rail collection system was removed at an early stage, although it can be reinstated easily if traffic demand requires them to be used elsewhere. Five units were loaned to Southern and had the third rail collection shoes attached for use on the 750 volt system in use on the former Southern Region of British Rail.

 

A further 37 units were ordered by London Midland and these are now in traffic and are designated Class 350/2, the original 30 units carrying numbers in the Class 350/1 series. Unlike the earlier version, the Class 350/2s do not have third rail provision and have different interiors as these are used on longer haul services to Liverpool and Manchester from Birmingham and London.

 

The Bachmann model represents both versions and will be available initially as 350102 in unbranded Silverlink livery (31-030), 350238 in London Midland livery (31-031) and 350115 ‘Apollo’ which also carries London Midland colours (31-032).

 

 

 

Wagons roll from Bachmann

 

The ever-expanding range of wagons sees the introduction of several new models.

 

For those modelling the modern scene the bogie steel coil carrier with load will be a welcome addition. 305 of these wagons were built between 1972 and 1976 at the BR workshops at Ashford and Shildon. Many remain in traffic today as part of the DB Schenker wagon fleet (previously EWS). All will be supplied with cradles carrying steel coil loads.

 

The OTA timber wagon is used for the transport of trees mainly from Scotland to paper mills. They were first converted in 1985 from other types and were fitted with stanchions to retain the timber in place with high ends, some such as VDA vans retained the original ends. Some 268 OTA wagons were in operation during the peak years of timber traffic. Many are currently in store following the loss of a major contract by EWS in 2006 to another operator. Bachmann are producing the version converted from VDA vehicles. The models will be sold with a lumber load.

 

The LNER / BR 13 Ton steel open wagon will have three variants of body on an all new 8-clasp brake shoe chassis. The body types are the version with rope/chain securing rings, plain sides or plain sides with wooden doors.

 

The new 8 clasp brake chassis will also be used for the LNER / BR 12 Ton vans which will again have three versions of body tooling including metal ends with ventilators, wooden planked ends with ventilators and the Fruit van version with louvered ends and roof ventilators.

 

The FNA nuclear flask wagon is also being produced. Three versions will be available with black floor and round buffers (38-345), sloping floor with changeover valve and oval buffers (38-346) and sloping floor with round buffers. All three will carry the flask.

 

 

OO Scale Buildings and Accessories

 

The following are new items for 2010

 

Station buildings

 

44-065 Art Deco platform centre building

44-066 Art Deco station building

44-067 Art Deco station end building

44-068 Art Deco subway building

44-073 Suburban station building

 

Lineside scenes

 

44-082 Derelict signal box

44-080 Weighbridge

44-069 Electrical substation

44-064 Art Deco signal box

44-043 Lineside transformer site

 

Urban Scenes

 

44-081 Portable builtdings (Portakabin)

44-024 Low relief bonded warehouse

44-075 Fire station

44-076 Garage

44-077 Georgian Townhouse

44-202 Low relief terrace houses (front)

44-203 Low relief corner store

44-085 Lock up garages

44-078 Modern industrial chimney

44.74Bus Depot

 

On Shed

 

44-083 Carriage Shed

44-072 Depot crane

44-508 MPD accessories

44-070 Coaling Tower

44-050 4 Road engine shed

44-084 Inspection pit

 

Concrete Works

 

44-071 Wagon loading tower

 

Brewery

 

44.520Metal beer kegs

44-518 wooden barrels

 

Village Scenes

 

44.51Watermill

 

Accessories

 

44.517Brute trolleys

44-079 Station forecourt set

44-512 Mobile snack bar

44-513 modern public toilet auto kiosk

44-511 Grounded van body

44-530 Cast iron bollards

44-531 Concrete bollards

44-510 modern shelter (station or bus)

44-514 modern bench seats

44-515 Greenhouse

44-516 garden shed

44-519 Oil barrels

44-521 milk churns

44-522 old style dustbins

44-523 CCTV security cameras

44-524 Fire buckets

44-525 Domestic wheelie bins

44-526 Industrial chemical drums

44-527 Propane cylinders

44-528 Air conditioning units

44-529 Traffic island bollards

44.532Large aggregate bags

44-509 Car park accessories

 

Figures

 

36-080 Horses

36-081 Cows

36-082 Pigs

36-083 Sheep

36.4001960s-1970s coal miners

36.401Trainspotters

36.4021960s-1970s standing passengers

36.403Factory workers and foreman

36.4041940s-1950s station staff

36.4051960s-1970s station staff

36.406Suburban street scene

36.4071950s train crew

36.40812 seated coach passengers

 

 

Bachmann Branchline

 

The following are new items for 2010 (some existing tooling with livery or running number changes). Items in blue represent new tooling since the last catalogue (some previously announced).

 

Branchline

 

Train Sets

 

30-x51 Iarnrod Eireann train set with Class 2700 DMU

30-075 Local freight set with GWR pannier tank

 

Great Western Railway / BR Western Region locomotives

 

32.138Class 4575 Prairie Tank No. 5550 in BR lined green with late crest

32.208Class 8750 Pannier Tank No. 6757 in GWR livery

32.21557xx Class No. 5775 in GWR livery

 

London Midland & Scottish Railway / BR London Midland Region locomotives

 

31-178DC Jubilee Class No. 45659 ‘Drake’ in BR lined green with late crest

DCC ON BOARD

32-829A Ivatt Class 2MT No. 46446 in BR lined black with late crest

31.6253F Class No. 43474 in BR black with late crest

31.6263F Class No. 43186 in BR black with early emblem

31.6273F Class No. 3502 in LMS black

31-010 7F Class No. 53809 in BR black with late crest

31-011 7F Class No. 53806 in BR black with early emblem

31-012 7F Class No. 53808 in BR black with late crest

 

British Railways Standard Class locomotives

 

32-850A 9F Class No. 92220 ‘Evening Star’ in BR lined green late crest

31-975A Class 3MT Tank No. 82020 in BR lined black with early emblem

31-976A Class 3MT Tank No. 82030 in BR lined green with late crest

31-978A Class 3MT Tank No. 82019 in BR lined black with late crest

32.3594MT Tank No. 80154 in VR lined black with early emblem

 

Diesel locomotives

 

32-029A Class 20 No. 20090 in Railfreight grey / red stripe livery

32-429DS Class 24 No. D5100 in green DCC SOUND

32-430B Class 24 No. D5061 in green

32.328Class 25/1 No. D7581 in green

32.406Class 25/3 No. D5255 in two tone green

32.781Class 37/0 No. 37251 in blue

32.782Class 37/0 No. D6801 in green

32-783DS Class 37/0 No. 37049 in blue DCC SOUND

32.386Class 37/5 No. 37513 in Railfreight Metals livery

32.387Class 37/5 No. 37518 in Railfreight red stripe livery

32.385Class 37/4 No. 37415 in InterCity livery

32-677A Class 45 No. 45120 in blue

31.585Class 70 No. 70006 in Freighliner PowerHaul livery

31.586Class 70 No. 70003 in Freightliner PowerHaul livery

 

Diesel Multiple Units

 

32-900B Class 108 in BR green with speed whiskers (2 car)

32-515 Derby Lightweight in BR green with full yellow ends (2 car)

32.516Derby Lightweight in BR green with speed whiskers (2 car)

32.517Derby Lightweight in BR blue

32.467Class 170 in Transport Scotland Saltaire livery (3 car)

 

Electric locomotives

 

31.676Class 85 No. E3058 in BR electric blue with twin pantographs

31.677Class 85 No. E3056 in BR blue

31.678Class 85 No. 85026 in BR blue

 

Electric Multiple Units

 

31-030 Class 350 No. 350102 in unbranded Silverlink livery

31-031 Class 350 No. 350238 in London Midland livery

31-032 Class 350 No. 350115 ‘Apollo’ in London Midland livery

31-426A Class 411 4Cep in green with yellow ends

31-425A Class 411 4Cep in green with whistle

31-427A Class 411 4Cep in blue / grey

 

Coaches

 

British Railways Mark 1 coaches

 

39-027F Mark 1 SK Second Corridor in crimson / cream

39-127D Mark 1 CK Composite Corridor in crimson / cream

39-079B Mark 1 BSK Brake Second Corridor in chocolate / cream

39-129B Mark 1 CK Composite Corridor in chocolate / cream

39-154B Mark 1 FK First Corridor in chocolate / cream

39-179B Mark 1 BG Full Brake in chocolate / cream

39-229B Mark 1 BCK Brake Composite Corridor in chocolate / cream

39-262A Mark 1 RMB Restaurant Miniature Buffet in green (late)

39-101C Mark 1 RU Restaurant Car in maroon (ER)

39-103B Mark 1 RU Restaurant Car in maroon (WR)

39-126E Mark 1 CK Composite Corridor in maroon

39-151D Mark 1 FK First Corridor in maroon

39-176D Mark 1 BG Full Brake in maroon

39-226C Mark 1 BCK Brake Corridor in maroon

39-271B Mark 1 GUV General Utility Van in maroon

39-025E Mark 1 SK Second Corridor in blue / grey

39-050E Mark 1 SO Second Open in blue / grey

38-075C Mark 1 BSK Brake Second Corridor in blue / grey

39-125C Mark 1 CK Composite Corridor in blue / grey

39-150C Mark 1 FK Corridor Composite in blue / grey

39-175C Mark 1 BG Full Brake in blue / grey

39-182B Mark 1 NCV Full Brake in blue with Newspapers branding

39-250B Mark 1 RFO Restaurant Car in blue / grey

39-727B Mark 1 GUV General Utility Vehicle in blue with Express Parcels branding

39.274Mark 1 GUV General Utility Vehicle in InterCity Motorail livery

39-270A Mark 1 GUV General Utility Vehicle in Rail Express Systems red / grey

 

British Railways BR Mark 1 Pullman Coaches

 

39-300B Pullman SK Second Kitchen No. 334 in umber / cream

 

British Railways Mark 2 coaches

 

39-333A Mark 2 FK First Corridor in green

39-332A Mark 2 FK First Corridor in maroon

39-330A Mark 2 FK First Corridor in blue / grey

 

Wagons

37-034 5 plank steel floor wagon in James Durnford

37-061A 5 plank wood floor wagon in BR grey

37-062 5 plank wood floor wagon in Salt Union Ltd livery

37-081D 7 plank end door wagon in BR grey

37-085 7 plank end door wagon in Crane & Co livery

37-100 7 plank fixed end wagon in Shaka Salt livery

37.1117 plank fixed end wagon in Eales & Roberts livery

37-477B 1 plank wagon in BR bauxite

37-930B 3 plank wagon in BR bauxite with BD container in BR crimson

37-951C Conflat A with BD container in BR crimson

33-079A China clay wagon without hood in BR grey

33-080B China clay wagon with hood in BR bauxite (weathered)

33-081B China clay wagon with hood in BR bauxite (weathered)

37-731A GWR 12 Ton ventilated van in BR (W) bauxite

37-754B GWR 12 Ton fruit van in BR bauxite

37-778B GWR 12 Ton Mogo van in GWR dark grey

37-779B GWR 12 Ton Mogo van in BR bauxite

37-802B LMS 12 Ton ventilated van in BR bauxite

38-070D SR 12 Ton planked ventilated van with large SR logo

38-081B SR 12 Ton planked ventilated van in BR (M) grey

38.380LNER 12 Ton ventilated van corrugated ends in early BR bauxite

38.381LNER 12 Ton ventilated van corrugated ends in late BR bauxite

38.375 LNER Ton ventilated van planked ends in late LNER oxide

38.376 LNER 12 Ton ventilated van planked ends in early BR bauxite

38.385LNER 12 Ton ventilated Fruit van in early BR bauxite

38.386LNER 12 Ton ventilated Fruit van in late BR bauxite

38-170B BR 12 Ton plywood ventilated van in early BR bauxite

38-171B BR 12 Ton plywood ventilated van in late BR bauxite

38-180B BR 12 Ton plywood fruit van in early BR bauxite

38-181B BR 12 Ton plywood fruit van in late BR bauxite

38-230A BR 12 Ton planked ventilated van with plywood doors in early

BR bauxite

37-225F 16 Ton mineral wagon with top flap doors in BR grey

37-226F 16 Ton mineral wagon with top flap doors in BR bauxite

37-250F 16 Ton mineral wagon with top flap doors in BR grey

37-252D 16 Ton mineral wagon with top flap doors in BR bauxite

37-376B 16 Ton pressed end door steel mineral wagon in MOT bauxite

37-377F 16 Ton pressed end door steel mineral wagon in BR grey

37-426B 16 Ton slope sided pressed side door steel mineral wagon in MOT bauxite

37-451B 16 Ton slope sided pressed side door steel mineral wagon in MWT brown

37-275E 27 Ton steel tippler wagon in BR grey with Iron Ore branding

37-276B 27 Ton steel tippler wagon in BR grey with Chalk branding

37-354B 13 Ton steel sand tippler wagon in BR grey

37-355B 13 Ton steel sand tippler wagon in BR bauxite

38.325LNER 13 Ton high sided open wagon with chain pockets in early

BR bauxite

38.326LNER 13 Ton high sided open wagon with chain pockets in late

BR bauxite

38.327LNER 13 Ton high sided open wagon with smooth sides in early

BR bauxite

38.328LNER 13 Ton high sided open wagon with smooth sides in late

BR bauxite

38.329LNER 13 Ton high sided open wagon with smooth sides /

wooden door in early LNER oxide

33-856C 30 Ton bogie bolster wagon in BR grey

33.92830 Ton bogie bolster wagon in BR grey with steel girders

33.92930 Ton bogie bolster wagon in BR grey with pipe load

33.87945 Ton bogie well wagon in LNER grey with boiler load

33.90145 Ton bogie well wagon in BR grey

38-152A 80 Tonne BDA bogie bolster wagon in EWS livery

38.15880 Tonne BDA bogie bolster wagon in BR bauxite with steel pipe load

38.15980 Tonne BDA bogie bolster wagon in Railfreight livery with steel beam load

38.350BAA steel carrier in EWS livery with steel coil load

38.351BAA steel carrier in Railfreight Metal sector with steel coil load

38.352BAA steel carrier in Railfreight red / black with steel coil load

37-658A 14 Ton tank wagon with large filler in Fina livery

37-659A 14 Ton tank wagon in National Benzole livery

37-675B 14 Ton tank wagon in Mobil livery

37-607A Set of 3 14 Ton wagons in Tarmac livery (weathered)

37.66014 Ton tank wagon in National Fertilizers livery

37.68314 Ton tank wagon in John Robinson (Bristol) livery

37-575A 45 Ton TTA tank wagon in BP green livery

37-576A 45 Ton TTA tank wagon in Esso grey livery

37-577A 45 Ton TTA tank wagon in Shell / BP livery

37-583A 45 Ton TTA tank wagon in Mobil grey livery

38-110A 100 Ton TEA tank wagon in Shell grey livery

38-111A 100 Ton TEA tank wagon in BP green livery

38-113A 100 Ton TEA tank wagon in Esso grey livery

37-854A 104 Tonne HTA Bulk coal hopper wagon in EWS livery

38-030B 100 Tone HHA bogie hopper wagon in Freightliner Heavy Haul

livery with sliding end doors

37-502B 24 Ton Ore hopper wagon in BR grey

38-131A 45 Tonne Seacow YGB hopper wagon in Departmental (Dutch) livery

38-132A 45 Tonne Seacow YGB hopper wagon in EWS livery

38-056A 21 Tonne OCA Dropside open wagon in Railfreight red livery

38-095B 34 Ton PNA ballast / spoil 5 rib wagon in Railtack livery

38-085B 34 Tonne Limpet ZKA open ballast wagon in Dutch livery

38-005A 46 Tonne H S A hopper wagon in BR bauxite

38-006A 46 Tonne HEA hopper wagon in Railfreight red / grey

38-013A 24 Tonne MFA open box mineral wagon in EWS livery (weathered)

33-435A 51 Tonne SSA scrap wagon (weathered)

38.300OTA (xVDA) timber wagon with lumber load in BR Railfreight

38.301OTA (xVDA) timber wagon with lumber load in EWS livery

38.345FNA nuclear flask wagon with flat floor and round buffers

38.346FNA nuclear flask wagon with sloping floor, changeover valve and oval buffers

38.347FNA nuclear flask wagon with sloping floor and round buffers

37-305A 2 x Intermodal wagons with 45ft DHL containers

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Derby Lightweight! Awesome! That's one hunch right then, and I'm just off for a slice of humble pie regarding the Siemens 350, hell obviously having frozen over hereabouts wink.gif

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Thanks Andy.They're doing another batch of 92220 Evening Star then.That will please quite a few.

 

I like the sound of the new figures and animals range especially the seated passengers.

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I am particularly excited about the horses, cows, pigs and sheep :)

 

You might be - but I bet the cows will be in the wrong livery for a layout set in South Wales in the early 1960s (the sheep might be ok tho', wonder if they'll do a bulk pack?)

 

Strange that I predicted a while back that 2009 would be the 'year of the 2-8-0', must buy a new sacrifical lamb - ah, don't say it ;)

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Good news on the LNER opens too

 

I agree, Im jest getting my head around the different stock that were used c1970 and I think these fit the bill!

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Yet more OTAs? Seems complete overkill as Hornby are powering ahead with theirs. Unless there is a variant that isn't covered by the Hornby model? Nice to see pre-srouping locos been given an airing.

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Yet more OTAs? Seems complete overkill as Hornby are powering ahead with theirs. Unless there is a variant that isn't covered by the Hornby model?

 

See earlier post Paul - these are ex-VDA, Hornby's are ex-OCA. A smart move IMO

 

 

I agree, Im jest getting my head around the different stock that were used c1970 and I think these fit the bill!

 

Oh, just a bit B) They were very numerous, although the design continually evolved over the build run. It looks like they'll cover all the major variations apart from the soda ash derivatives and the later BR design with strengthening rib

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Class 85!!!!! Wow, I wonder what year that will be out???? I will order a couple of them!!! Was going to get a Heljan 86 but can now save for a bit longer!!!!! Shame there is no new class 40 models but can't have it all.

Hey now we can all recreate the test with the peak and the nuclear flask!!!!

Well done Bachmann, This has made Hornbys annoucement look flimsy in my view.

Gary ( Off to build some overhead wires!!!!)

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Looks like a modellers e-wish list come true to me..... S&DJR 2-8-0, MR 3F 0-6-0, Original Derby Lightweight DMU, Class 85 Electric. I can find a home for the 3F and DMU.smile.gif

 

But no new chassis under a Ivatt/BR Class 2 2-6-0 or 2-6-2T?????

 

No Big four coaches????? The mind boggles!

 

Yes there are bound to be dissapointments, but to completely miss out on railway carriages built between 1924 and 1951 is weard when most of the locos and wagons in the catalogue are from that era.

 

If Bachmann has been put off my Hornby's apparently poor sales of Stanier and Gresley coaches, they shouldnt. All modellers want are plain simple RTR coaches with moulded on handles and couplings attached to bogies, not expensive to produce fragile over-engineered models as Hornbys undoubtedly are. I mean what is so difficult in grasping that modellers want 'typical' coaches like suburbans and run of the mill corridor coaches?

 

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Yet more OTAs? Seems complete overkill as Hornby are powering ahead with theirs. Unless there is a variant that isn't covered by the Hornby model? Nice to see pre-srouping locos been given an airing.

 

The OTA were converted from two types of wagons the VDA and OBA/OCA it might be that Hornby and Bachmann are doing the same ex VDA type it might be better for Bachmann to do both types as they have the OBA/OCA chassis and VDA chassis so a little compition but at least they have a broader range of wagon variants.

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Yet more OTAs? Seems complete overkill as Hornby are powering ahead with theirs. Unless there is a variant that isn't covered by the Hornby model? Nice to see pre-srouping locos been given an airing.

The Hornby ones, when/should they appear, represent the ones with angular ends converted from former OCA opens. The Bachmann ones have a different style of end, it being that of the VDA van from which they were converted. Within both groups, there are different arrangements of stanchions. When these wagons first entered traffic, batches were converted as specific flows were gained, and it would be normal to see rakes of vehicles of the same design working together. Some were even liveried for particular flows; ones that come to mind are Thames Board Mill (later Iggesund)(pale blue) and Forestry Commission (dark green).

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The OTA were converted from two types of wagons the VDA and OBA/OCA it might be that Hornby and Bachmann are doing the same ex VDA type it might be better for Bachmann to do both types as they have the OBA/OCA chassis and VDA chassis so a little compition but at least they have a broader range of wagon variants.

 

[Oh no not again mode]

 

Already covered - the pictures here show that Hornby's is the ex-OCA version

 

[/Oh no not again mode]

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