JZ Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Picked up mine (D6320) from East Somerset Models this morning. What a lovely beast this is. Body nice and easy to remove to fit a decoder. This is when I note a problem. All my loco's are fitted with crew, but it looks like so much glue has been used to stick the cab in, that removing it may cause some damage. Has anyone managed yet ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Yes, it does look like a lot of glue has been used but, at least on my D6331, it was fairly easy to remove the cab interior by gentle, but persistent use of a scalpel. Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZ Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Thanks Nick. I will try later. Not that I have a crew to fit at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Pannier Tank Posted January 14, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 14, 2012 Ultrascale will not be going ahead with a drop in replacement wheelset. See:- http://www.ultrascale.co.uk/show_notice.php?noteid=39 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 That's very disappointing news, though not entirely surprising. Whilst waiting to hear whether they would go ahead, I've been wondering about alternatives. One possibility, at least for those with a lathe, might be to turn down the tread and flange of the existing wheel so that a tyre from, say, a Gibson coach wheel could be fitted. Has anyone tried anything like this? I wonder if Dave could comment on the availability of spare wheelsets? I've a mind to try this myself, but don't want to risk destroying the existing wheels. Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapolDave Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Ok well I had a quote from China regarding these wheels. However it's a lot of money for Dapol and would have to be charged at about £35.00 per set. Now luckily the wheel can be used on Kernow's 6xx so that's good, but as Ultrascale say, there don't seem to be many takers. Is there a society that might want to collate interest from modellers ( sorry but I don't have the time)? The problem for me is the financial " leap of faith" that this will entail and at the moment, probably because I don't know the scale, I cannot justify it. However I'm willing to be proved wrong. Can someone get some figures together for me and we'll see where we go with it? Cheers Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D605Eagle Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Ok well I had a quote from China regarding these wheels. However it's a lot of money for Dapol and would have to be charged at about £35.00 per set. Now luckily the wheel can be used on Kernow's 6xx so that's good, but as Ultrascale say, there don't seem to be many takers. Is there a society that might want to collate interest from modellers ( sorry but I don't have the time)? The problem for me is the financial " leap of faith" that this will entail and at the moment, probably because I don't know the scale, I cannot justify it. However I'm willing to be proved wrong. Can someone get some figures together for me and we'll see where we go with it? Cheers Dave Dont forget the D61xx as well Dave! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 (edited) That's very disappointing news, though not entirely surprising. Whilst waiting to hear whether they would go ahead, I've been wondering about alternatives. One possibility, at least for those with a lathe, might be to turn down the tread and flange of the existing wheel so that a tyre from, say, a Gibson coach wheel could be fitted. Has anyone tried anything like this? I wonder if Dave could comment on the availability of spare wheelsets? I've a mind to try this myself, but don't want to risk destroying the existing wheels. Nick I have been thinking about this as well. although I was thinking along the lines of using their 3'6" loco wheels since the tyre is a bit more chunky looking than a coach wheel. I guess it all comes down to how easy the material is to machine and if machining results in any corrossion problems in case there are protective coatings on the wheels. I need to run it in in 00 for a while first though to run it in! If I am lucky, it might be possible to have a P4 version running on Clutton at Expo EM. Regards Mark Humphrys Edited January 15, 2012 by Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Thanks, Mark. Yes, you're probably right about using loco rather than coach wheel tyres. Do let us know if you try this route. Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinWales Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Ultrascale will not be going ahead with a drop in replacement wheelset. See:- http://www.ultrascal...e.php?noteid=39 Just a thought chaps-with the arrival of the 21/29 surely this will be viable?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Pannier Tank Posted January 15, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 15, 2012 Just a thought chaps-with the arrival of the 21/29 surely this will be viable?? With only 32 (P4 & EM & OO) registering an interest in Class 22 Ultrascales survey, I don't think so unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluex5 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Are we sure the 21/29 wheels are the same though, considering the rest of the bogie is nothing like the 22 one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor H Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 (edited) http://www.rmweb.co....__fromsearch__1 Edited March 16, 2012 by Trevor H Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D605Eagle Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 (edited) Just a thought chaps-with the arrival of the 21/29 surely this will be viable?? Is there an echo in here? echo in here?in here?here? Are we sure the 21/29 wheels are the same though, considering the rest of the bogie is nothing like the 22 one? Yes they are, both 3'7" 11 spoke Edited January 15, 2012 by D605Eagle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZ Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Gave mine a bit of a run in yesterday. Nice smooth mechanism, if a little noisy, though it did quieten down after a few minutes running. One of the cab lights not working. Have checked the wiring I can get at and that seems OK, maybe a dry joint at the LED itself. No big deal though, as none of my other loco's have one. Still not got around to getting the cab out, with big windows it is crying out for a crew. Have yet to look through the whole thread on here, but has anyone fitted the headcodes ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 ...has anyone fitted the headcodes ? Yes, but because the letters/numbers are translucent, rather than white, some have had better looking results using (IIRC) Heljan Hymek sheets. It's back there in the thread somewhere... Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZ Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Cheers Nick, I will look for that. I have a load made up from the Heljan sheets. Scanned then copied a pasted to get the headcodes of some train that I work. Will make some for Weymouth trains as this will appear on my, very loosley based on Weymouth, next layout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Endacott Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Precision labels headcodes work well. You can see what they look like at Calne this coming weekend. Geoff Endacott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westerner Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I've used Precision Labels the 3.6 mm ones. and as Geoff says they've worked well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZ Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) Precision labels headcodes work well. You can see what they look like at Calne this coming weekend. Geoff Endacott 'Fraid not. Working. Edited January 17, 2012 by JZ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) Hi Jules, here's a quick reminder to save you trawling back through the tread.... Heljan headcodes placed in the boxes to see how they fit, before colouring the edges etc... EDIT : if you stand back from your pc monitor about five feet I think they look about right... Edited January 17, 2012 by Rugd1022 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren01 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) HI All I have just got my class 22 today and what an amazing model it is, one thing i would like to ask is when running only one light comes on ,one red at the back and one white at the front ,is this right?. Also i have noticed that the cab light's up when running ,is their a way of turning this off as it looks a bit funny with the cab light on when running. Well done Dapol for bring this model to use and such a fine model as well!. All the best Darren Edited January 17, 2012 by darren01 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluex5 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 , one thing i would like to ask is when running only one light comes on ,one red at the back and one white at the front ,is this right?. That is correct, all the hydraulic classes were wired with one red and one white light on each end in addition the the headcode illumination. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
exmoordave Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Sorry if I'm repeating a question, that may have already been asked but does anyone know if Dapol are going to release a D63xx in green without any yellow panels/ends? I seem to remember that one of these was listed in their first launch batch, but perhaps it was just wishful thinking??!! Many thanks exmoordave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Sorry if I'm repeating a question, that may have already been asked but does anyone know if Dapol are going to release a D63xx in green without any yellow panels/ends? I think it would require a new front-end tooling to accomodate as I think only the locos with headcode discs wore this livery, only Dapol can comment on whether that would economically viable. Hopefully the strong sales of the first batch are a good omen for other variants but we will have to wait and see. Even if Dapol decided to do a batch in original condition tommorrow, I doubt we would see them this year. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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