RMweb Premium Chamby Posted October 30, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 30, 2017 Well this is a bit odd... Hattons website is now displaying R3555 Sir William Stanier as sold out on pre-order, but they have more than 10 in stock, now listed at the full RRP of £189.99. Hopefully there’s not another gremlin in their stock control system! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) Probably just received more stock than was available pre order. Now showing as not available. Jason Edited October 30, 2017 by Steamport Southport Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Midland Mole @ Footplate Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) We spoke to Hornby this morning and our order is definitely coming this week, most likely Wed/Thurs/Fri. Anyone who has pre-ordered them from us will be getting a phone call from me as soon as they are on my desk. All our Staniers and SECR H Classes are accounted for, but we do have more stock of Atholl available. Alex Edited October 30, 2017 by Midland Mole @ Footplate 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted October 30, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 30, 2017 46256 runs smoothly and silently straight out of the box.Pony truck in common with some other Hornby models a little light and wayward over baseboard joins/variations in track i.e it derails light engine at certain points where there is a lift or drop in height.However when under load .....9 on......things are dramatically different and the annoying habit ceases.This is one powerful beast that can shift at low input and crawl with a load at prototypical speed.It's fully in command of the situation....as indeed a Duchess should be. Acknowledgements to Little Dan at Derails for testing her and delivering her ex-works in fine,secure style.Oh,thanks too to the livery guru...nice job 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted October 30, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 30, 2017 Well this is a bit odd... Hattons website is now displaying R3555 Sir William Stanier as sold out on pre-order, but they have more than 10 in stock, now listed at the full RRP of £189.99. Hopefully there’s not another gremlin in their stock control system! It won’t even show up for me, whereas R3553 shows, with a price of £161. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 46256 runs smoothly and silently straight out of the box.Pony truck in common with some other Hornby models a little light and wayward over baseboard joins/variations in track i.e it derails light engine at certain points where there is a lift or drop in height. Mine looks like it's had some heavy landings on its travels and one of the traits was that the front wheels were not making full contact with the desk or railhead. A quick tweak of the metal cradle above the bogie has sorted that. Otherwise it would have derailed as soon as it encountered any pointwork. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chamby Posted October 30, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 30, 2017 It won’t even show up for me, whereas R3553 shows, with a price of £161. yes you are right, it has now disappeared. I promise you it was there an hour ago! Hattons have been having problems with their listings since their stock take early last month, perhaps there are still some residual gremlins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb900f Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 First one I've seen on e bay . Full price £189. Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) Having looked at the loco SWS on ebay, the right hand cylinder in the photograph appears to out of alignment to the running plate. It may be the camera angle, but definitely worth checking out considering mine fell apart on the first run. Edited October 30, 2017 by Black 5 Bear Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Well this is a bit odd... Hattons website is now displaying R3555 Sir William Stanier as sold out on pre-order, but they have more than 10 in stock, now listed at the full RRP of £189.99. Hopefully there’s not another gremlin in their stock control system! They most probably came in and went out again. The SECR H also just suffered the same glitch. Neither appear on their site now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Mark Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Having looked at the loco SWS on ebay, the right hand cylinder in the photograph appears to out of alignment to the running plate. It may be the camera angle, but definitely worth checking out considering mine fell apart on the first run. I suspect this may apply to many. I rejected the first Sir William I was shown as the cylinders seemed too angled on both sides. Lots of studying the pictures in my Irwell book suggests the Coronations had the cylinders angled very slightly ....say 2 degrees. It all depends on the impact of light from the sky on a clean cylinder or a mucky one. I have resigned myself to adjusting the cylinders on my Stanier FRS when I am sure how they should really be. On another matter, despite being pleased overall, I do not like the slidebars. Too thin and I strongly suspect the same product used on Hornby's last edition. Also the crosshead piece of valve gear ( can someone offer the proper name !) also seems to be from the old model. The giveaway is that it should be fluted and like the old model it is not. Anyone got any ideas about sorting that ? Do Comet or Alan Gibson do etched valve gear for the Coronation ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Mark Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 At the risk of being the party pooper on this thread....and I emphasise I am happy overall....otherwise I would not have bought it.....I do not like the thickness of the tender sides both at the front cab part and at the rear. Very like the old ( ancient ? ) tooling of the Stanier 4000 tenders with the Black 5's and Scots/Patriots. I may just put up with it or thin them down. Easier said than done ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tim Hall Posted October 30, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 30, 2017 Mine looks like it's had some heavy landings on its travels and one of the traits was that the front wheels were not making full contact with the desk or railhead. A quick tweak of the metal cradle above the bogie has sorted that. Otherwise it would have detailed as soon as it encountered any pointwork. Had similar with a couple of rebuilt Bulleids, but on the 2nd axle of the front bogie. As you say, a gentle stretch brings them back into position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb900f Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 I suspect this may apply to many. I rejected the first Sir William I was shown as the cylinders seemed too angled on both sides. Lots of studying the pictures in my Irwell book suggests the Coronations had the cylinders angled very slightly ....say 2 degrees. It all depends on the impact of light from the sky on a clean cylinder or a mucky one. I have resigned myself to adjusting the cylinders on my Stanier FRS when I am sure how they should really be. On another matter, despite being pleased overall, I do not like the slidebars. Too thin and I strongly suspect the same product used on Hornby's last edition. Also the crosshead piece of valve gear ( can someone offer the proper name !) also seems to be from the old model. The giveaway is that it should be fluted and like the old model it is not. Anyone got any ideas about sorting that ? Do Comet or Alan Gibson do etched valve gear for the Coronation ? Comet etched valve gear LM 2 £12.50 Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Mark Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Comet etched valve gear LM 2 £12.50 Pete Thanks Pete. I think it might be worth the work to enhance what is a good model and get the best out of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Brasher Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Still running in my 'Duchess of Atholl' light engine. Tender derailed a couple of times and front bogie derailed on nearly every circuit running backwards. After running in is finished I will try running it with a rake of Palitoy and Bachmann coaches and a Hornby milk van as shown in the pictures. I will need to add to my rake of LMS Stanier coaches. They are getting expensive now in comparison to my Airfix Stanier brake that I bought from Hobbytime of West Wickham for £3.50 and treated it to a coat of gloss varnish. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 ... one of the traits was that the front wheels were not making full contact with the desk or railhead. A quick tweak of the metal cradle above the bogie has sorted that... Have Hornby fitted a spring on the bogie pivot? Hornby's service diagrams often suggest a spring, but on most of their models with a bogie it's up to the owner to supply and fit something suitable. Simple and worthwhile in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_sterling Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) Hi Folks, My consignment from Rails arrived yesterday, nice little compliments slip (a touch another firm I order significant amounts from could definitely learn from). I'm very impressed by 46256, it looks stunning, and the colour (and its sheen) looks just right. I placed by loco Drive Duchess of Sutherland (from the Northern Belle set) alongside, and for the most part, about the footplate, it stands up to 46256 reasonably well, underneath the newer model is far superior, frame detail and shape much better. Running performance of both is good, though 46256 is slightly quieter (but both are what I would describe as quiet running anyway, so splitting hairs with that one) But the biggest difference is definitely the livery, 46256 blows 6233 out of the water in that respect. 6233 is very pale, flat and much lighter than it ought to be, perhaps this has faded in my ownership, but it has never been stored in direct sunlight. Anyway, really impressed with 46256, Hornby and Rails for that matter too! well done folks! Paul. Edited October 31, 2017 by Paul_sterling 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Have Hornby fitted a spring on the bogie pivot? Hornby's service diagrams often suggest a spring, but on most of their models with a bogie it's up to the owner to supply and fit something suitable. Simple and worthwhile in my opinion. There is a spring on the pivot screw which is free to laterally slide in the guide slot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Lots of studying the pictures in my Irwell book suggests the Coronations had the cylinders angled very slightly ....say 2 degrees. It all depends on the impact of light from the sky on a clean cylinder or a mucky one. I remember reading somewhere that Stanier's class 5 mogul was his last design with horizontal cylinders. Assuming this is true, the Coronation's should indeed be slightly inclined. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted October 31, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 31, 2017 Rails quick off the mark with a new variant (sloping smokebox) Ltd Edition 1948 LMS black BR numbered 46229 Duchess of Hamilton. £190, 250 produced 'available mid November'. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 I've just secured a replacement SWS from Hereford Model Centre for £164.95 including p+p. If anyone is still trying to secure one, they currently have seven left. Thank you Ian for the heads up. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) I was a bit late to the parade ordering 46256 but when I enquired of my usual dealer a few months back who said his allocation was already pre-sold I thought I'd better try and secure one and was still able to get an order with Rails. Got the despatch email yesterday, Parcelfarce, not my favourite carrier....was in all morning, came back this afternoon to find a note 'parcel round the back'. Now as the only way to do this is to drop the item over a wall for a 8 foot drop onto paving, this is not recommended. However, parcel had avoided an end on dent and thankfully it has arrived in one piece. I know that standard practice is for Hornby to design the packaging to survive what they deem a 'drop test' but this is the first time I have had it demonstrated. Model is lovely BTW, so it's all worked out OK. Edited October 31, 2017 by andyman7 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Brasher Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 I was a bit late to the parade ordering 46256 but when I enquired of my usual dealer a few months back who said his allocation was already pre-sold I thought I'd better try and secure one and was still able to get an order with Rails. Got the despatch email yesterday, Parcelfarce, not my favourite carrier....was in all morning, came back this afternoon to find a note 'parcel round the back'. No as the only way to do this is to drop the item over a wall for a 8 foot drop onto paving, this is not recommended. However, parcel had avoided an end on dent and thankfully it has arrived in one piece. I know that standard practice is for Hornby to design the packaging to survive what they deem a 'drop test' but this is the first time I have had it demonstrated. Model is lovely BTW, so it's all worked out OK. My 'Duchess of Atholl' came by Parcelforce (Parcelfarce) from Rails as well. Not my favourite carrier but they left it with a neighbour. Rails sent my H class by Royal Mail which I prefer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Rails quick off the mark with a new variant (sloping smokebox) Ltd Edition 1948 LMS black BR numbered 46229 Duchess of Hamilton. £190, 250 produced 'available mid November'. A semi! It looks very attractive but I’m just spent out. Still, It hints at a main-range semi at some stage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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