RMweb Premium PMP99 Posted September 22, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 22, 2017 That green definitely looks darker (and better) I looked at one in a shop a couple of months ago and my impression was the green was darker/better. Didn't buy the model so can't comment further. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidR Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 (edited) Whilst Coachman looks for his pin vice and knobs,I decided to invest in a Hornby Hall too, R3499. Kernow had them, but sold out and unsure if they could get more at that price. Nearer to home, Bure Valley have them at 54 quid + p&p. Now, where's my 5973 plates, scalpel and sandpaper ? Edited September 22, 2017 by DavidR 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 81C Posted September 22, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 22, 2017 Loose or out of line slide bars seem to be the norm on Hornby loco's of late all the heavy tanks I have had that issue, all my Halls are from the blue team they seem more robust then Hornby one I have and that's been dumped in the spares box ,slide bars gone, rods bent to buqqery, I've given up on it but when it ran it wasn't half bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted September 22, 2017 Author Share Posted September 22, 2017 I have never liked the Bachmann Halls. Apart from being poorer runners with old-hat bodies, they require a lot of effort to put DCC sound in them. I did three (two were Modified Halls using Brassmaster conversion kits) and they were disappointing runners on DCC but ran well enough on DC. Attention to slidebars was no great shakes. The Hornby Halls generally have a smooth running fly-wheel chassis. Their 'design clever' bodies are great subjects for super-detailing, although I never fit new outside steam pipes, and they are ready for DCC sound. The Railroad Tender has a lot more free space in it for the speaker. I have a few days free time ahead of me and so I am looking forward to doing yet another Hall. Owing to the Tender swap, it will probably inherit sound. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted September 22, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 22, 2017 My only Hornby GW locos with slide bars is a 42xx heavy tank, and the slidebars are fine on it, as they are on my Baccy 4575 and ancient Airfix 61xx which masquerades as a 5101. This last loco is prone to an occasional drop of the piston from the hole in the cylinder, though! It is my oldest stock of any sort, still runs well, in fact better than ever, and is 33 years old. Wonder if any of my other stuff'll last that long; I certainly won't! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted September 23, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 23, 2017 I'm back home now and I've dug out my one and only 35 mm slide of the bus, a front view taken in Pickering on our trip to the NYMR in May 1977 - Barry O of this parish was there too. David "Grasscroft Halt" is definitely my University compatriot. I haven't seen him since that same summer. I'll scan the slide when I have a chance and post it here. As I said earlier, it's a small world. Here's the photo, taken on Sunday 1/5/77. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted September 23, 2017 Author Share Posted September 23, 2017 (edited) Here's the photo, taken on Sunday 1/5/77. 295 SHMD Daimler 61 at Pickering 750501.jpg That's fantastic and so nostalgic to me being born in Newton, Hyde. I've crawled all over it (David 'Grasscroft' painted the roof for me however), renewed frame timbers and panelling, then fully repainted it from the truly awful utility light green to the original dark green & cream lined out in pale green. I don't know if David painted over the cream after he bought it from me, as I inadvertently got too much yellow in the mix. I still have some original SHMD gold/black transfers for the running number '61'. Also some tunic buttons. I occasionally wore a Joint Board drivers jacket with white arm band (for hand signals) when driving the school bus in Wales (usually a City of Oxford exposed rad AEC Regent V but sometimes an Aldershot & District Leyland PD2) in the early 1970's. If No.61 had had a Gardner engine, I would have brought the bus home to Wales but the engine was the weakest part. I was later told SELNEC sold its worst vehicles to preservation! Sorry about the deviation from railways, but I am aware some railway enthusiast also take an interest in buses. Edited September 23, 2017 by coachmann 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted September 23, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 23, 2017 That's fantastic and so nostalgic to me being born in Newton, Hyde. I've crawled all over it (David 'Grasscroft' painted the roof for me however), renewed frame timbers and panelling, then fully repainted it from the truly awful utility light green to the original dark green & cream lined out in pale green. I don't know if David painted over the cream after he bought it from me, as I inadvertently got too much yellow in the mix. I still have some original SHMD gold/black transfers for the running number '61'. Also some tunic buttons. I occasionally wore a Joint Board drivers jacket with white arm band (for hand signals) when driving the school bus in Wales (usually a City of Oxford exposed rad AEC Regent V but sometimes an Aldershot & District Leyland PD2) in the early 1970's. If No.61 had had a Gardner engine, I would have brought the bus home to Wales but the engine was the weakest part. I was later told SELNEC sold its worst vehicles to preservation! Sorry about the deviation from railways, but I am aware some railway enthusiast also take an interest in buses. You're welcome Larry. If I can work out how to get my scanner to make a higher-resolution copy I'll send it to you and David by private message. Don't hold your breath though! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwordsmith Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 I'm also a bus enthusiast. I used to run Motor Transport magazine in the early '80s, and did my PSV test to be able to road test new coaches and buses for articles I learnt the ropes on an ex Devon General Lodekka, with a Gardner 150 and three speed crash gearbox I even ended up acquiring an ex BEA one and a half decker that had been used running from Cromwell Road to LHR- an unusual claim to fame! 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted September 23, 2017 Author Share Posted September 23, 2017 (edited) I'm also a bus enthusiast. I used to run Motor Transport magazine in the early '80s, and did my PSV test to be able to road test new coaches and buses for articles I learnt the ropes on an ex Devon General Lodekka, with a Gardner 150 and three speed crash gearbox I even ended up acquiring an ex BEA one and a half decker that had been used running from Cromwell Road to LHR- an unusual claim to fame! Crosville retained Lowdekka's for driver-training as you probably know even though the service fleet was semi-automatic. The thinking behind this was, if they can drive a bus with a crash box, they can drive anything. I see today's drivers swinging buses of a length undreamed of in my day but I wonder how they would go on if they also had to change their own gears ha ha.... The longest I drove were 30' PD3's. I would expect a preserved bus becomes something of an albatross in old age. Edited September 23, 2017 by coachmann 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post coachmann Posted September 23, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2017 (edited) Wobert (the Lisp) Woberts, news hack from the Cawwog Chwonicle, was out with his camera to record 6854 'Morehampton Grange' on the outskirts of Carrog hauling a Barmouth-Chester train this morning... Edited September 23, 2017 by coachmann 31 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiket4 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Others post tipped-out-of-box models, so here's another new addition to the stud. I'm a sucker for these Railroad Halls and a snip at the price.... Now where's me pin vice and handrail knobs.... WEB Hall @ Carrog 6.jpg Is it my imagination or are these locos in a darker than usual green....? WEB Hall @ Carrog 7 jpg.jpg Looks a nice model not sure if one would visit an ex GWR Branch line. Regards Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted September 23, 2017 Author Share Posted September 23, 2017 Angawdd York, railway raconteur and sheep charmer, managed to capture the train on his Soho Reflex as well.... Two of the first LMS Stanier corridor thirds to D1860. Note the shallow sliding vents and torpedo roof vents... The D1899 with deeper window vents followed and batches were built from 1933 until 1939. The nearer coach is a D2119 which appeared in 1946 with welded underframe and continued to be built until the advent of 'Porthole' coaches in 1950... A 1939-built D1899 with extra roof vents over the corridor. The nearer coach is another D2119 showing the two extra doors on the corridor side... 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted September 23, 2017 Author Share Posted September 23, 2017 Looks a nice model not sure if one would visit an ex GWR Branch line. Regards Mark I'm not sure whether I mentioned it or not on 'Carrog', but I pretend under Rule 1 that the Llangollen line was upgraded to red-route during the war. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwordsmith Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Blimey Larry you got that lot painted a bit sharpish! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted September 23, 2017 Author Share Posted September 23, 2017 (edited) Movie of those coaches on test around the layout and yard. The Hornby Grange is reputed to be a slippery loco, but modification I made to the bogie pin obviously sorted the problem and it had no difficulty with these six brass coaches.... Edited September 23, 2017 by coachmann 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Nice ones Larry, I've been out to the GCR at Loughborough today and caught Witherslack Hall on Video, it on my KM thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Focalplane Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 The comparison between your Grange and the real thing (well, Hall) at GCR is convincing. The Grange's driver certainly knows how to get that train moving! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted September 23, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 23, 2017 Wobert (the Lisp) Woberts, news hack from the Cawwog Chwonicle, was out with his camera to record 6854 'Morehampton Grange' on the outskirts of Carrog hauling a Barmouth-Chester train this morning... WEB etched coaches 1.jpg That's nice. It deserves G F Heiron's signature in the corner. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Focalplane Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Ye olde steam in the 50's......A down ECS move slowing for the token at Carrog before getting a signal to carry on....Featuring the brass coaches again.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2KaOgf06gs I can imagine that same train passing through Penmaenpool nearly two hours later in the day! Very atmospheric in black and white too. Has anyone ever actually constructed a layout in black and white? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Siberian Snooper Posted September 24, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 24, 2017 I can imagine that same train passing through Penmaenpool nearly two hours later in the day! Very atmospheric in black and white too. Has anyone ever actually constructed a layout in black and white? Not quiet, but 50 shades of grey, a 3mm shunting diorama. Sorry no photos, but there might be one on the Exeter show thread. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted September 24, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 24, 2017 It's just missing that BBC RP accent of the 1950s commentary. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwordsmith Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Beautifully smooth running there Larry - not sure about sound, still haven't made my mind up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cctransuk Posted September 24, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 24, 2017 Has anyone ever actually constructed a layout in black and white? I think so - I certainly had an enquiry for greyscale roling stock transfers. Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted September 24, 2017 Author Share Posted September 24, 2017 (edited) Beautifully smooth running there Larry - not sure about sound, still haven't made my mind up. I wouldn't attempt to convince anyone they should adopt sound. When friend PGH (of this forum) first brought round a sound fitted American loco, I didn't 'bite'. Then he built a North American layout with DCC Sound and it kind of passed over my head. Then he asked me to pop round to see something as he had spent some weeks rewiring his colliery layout and had fitted a couple of industrials with sound. That was it for me. His 40 year old layout had been brought to life and I began thinking in terms of 'sound' from that moment. Visitors seem to like it but I think the tiny mic on my DSLR is barely capable of picking up a decent sound, afterall, video is is merely an option on what was designed as a top rate still camera. If I filmed it on my old camcorder with a Sennheiser mic, I suspect things would sound as they should. Edited September 24, 2017 by coachmann 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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