34theletterbetweenB&D Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Cute though the ex-GER E4 may be, the clear commonality with the J15 suggests 'wait a while' on this idea to me. (Stratford was into standardisation big time, and very successfully so.) Any small LNER group tender engine of pre-group origin would be good to offset the long time surfeit of big engine power for this group, and Hornby have lately been doing rather well in that direction. Only one prediction, 46256 Sir William Stanier in BR Maroon but with yellow cab stripe. Despite being withdrawn in 1964, it would still fit with the end of BR steam 50th anniversary in 2018 and would satisfy the demand not filled by the first model, whilst being slightly different. Definitely with the idea of 'slightly different' applied to the two Ivatt Duchesses, there's no lack of options. Hornby would be mad not to make as much hay as possible with this never previously available variant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulzer27jd Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Being a LNER fan I'd like to see a super detailed D49, maybe an E4 and original B16 to compliment already produced models. However can we not get a range of restaurant vehicles from the Big Four so we can model realistic trains for Hornby's fabulous locomotives to haul Being an LNER fan, we cannot get a decent vestibule coach, let alone a catering vehicle. I wish Hornby would announce they are going to do the Gresleys properly. John 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Definitely with the idea of 'slightly different' applied to the two Ivatt Duchesses, there's no lack of options. Hornby would be mad not to make as much hay as possible with this never previously available variant. I quite agree with that. I might very well manage to hold out against City of Birmingham, despite seeing it close up being jacked along the track in the Birmingham museum may years ago, but what would make me crumble would be a semi in BR blue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 You may be right on that one. Carried for only a matter of weeks, the disfiguring stripe was detested by enthusiasts at the time, but is apparently popular today....At least on RMweb! Railway Modeller has already done an article on how to apply the stripes as well as some basic detailing and weathering. So I would think that there are probably a few now adorned. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 7013 Posted January 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 5, 2018 Been away in the wilds for the last month, has anyone speculated on a Lord Nelson? I am too jet lagged to plough through 36 apges. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted January 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 5, 2018 Been away in the wilds for the last month, has anyone speculated on a Lord Nelson? I am too jet lagged to plough through 36 apges. You may have missed the alleged catalogue cover which was pixelated out , but which someone recognised as a picture containing a Lord Nelson. Of course could be a complete red herring......................... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted January 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 5, 2018 Been away in the wilds for the last month, has anyone speculated on a Lord Nelson? I am too jet lagged to plough through 36 apges. Yes - just put Nelson in the search box. There was mention of cute and GER - how about a J69 Buckjumper - Liverpool Street pilot please. Cheers, Mick 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr chapman Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 If the Nelson is announced I hope and will be waiting for a schools with a Nelson tender. That would be very pretty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chamby Posted January 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 5, 2018 If the Nelson is announced I hope and will be waiting for a schools with a Nelson tender. That would be very pretty . So a Half Nelson then... (Ouch) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted January 5, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 5, 2018 If the Nelson is announced I hope and will be waiting for a schools with a Nelson tender. That would be very pretty I've recently acquired a Railroad Schools and a Bachmann tender with just that in mind, so you may be onto a winner there. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Of course could be a complete red herring... I didn't realise that herrings ever carried the gulf red livery. P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 It proves nothing but I'd be interested in all of these apart from the E4 I'll take your E4 Stewart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 . So a Half Nelson then... (Ouch) Just in case someone doesn’t know, the Schools used three Nelson cylinders, leading to them being described as three-quarter Nelsons. Someone is bound to suggest that, because Hornby already has the cylinders, it would be very easy to produce a Nelson around them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted January 5, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 5, 2018 Just in case someone doesn’t know, the Schools used three Nelson cylinders, leading to them being described as three-quarter Nelsons. Someone is bound to suggest that, because Hornby already has the cylinders, it would be very easy to produce a Nelson around them. The bogie is the same, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Being an LNER fan, we cannot get a decent vestibule coach, let alone a catering vehicle. I wish Hornby would announce they are going to do the Gresleys properly. That means cannibalising their own existing gangwayed Gresley stock. Looks like a natural for a competitor TBH. Hattons tooling up O gauge specimens, who knows where that might lead? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 (edited) With the new version Class 87 due in the next few months, for the InterCity swallow livery version, I would expect Hornby to re-release their Mk 3 DVT in swallow livery, if they are thinking joined up, as the 87s in that livery only ran coach sets with the Mk 3 DVT afaik. The original release in that livery flew off the shelves, and has been very difficult to obtain 2nd hand, probably the most sought after Mk3 DVT. If a new 86 is announced as well!! Edited January 5, 2018 by rembrow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuffed 1 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 When did crimson and cream disappear, for the most part ? I’m good for Hornby mk1’s but the passengers using them complain they are hungry.... Really started to disappear around 60-61, but a Collett Riviera 2nd and D127 Brake 2nd were used on the last day of the Fairford branch, June 1962. The odd Mk1 was still knocking around the Western into 1964, as indeed were several on the Eastern. If Hornby want to really make an impact with coaches, then a set of Bulleids - any type - would be manna from heaven. When the competition is Bachmann's antediluvian affairs, Comet or Southern Pride (if you can get them), they'd be onto a sure-fire winner. As for locos, a LBSCR K mogul or revamped Hawksworth County would be nice... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Really started to disappear around 60-61, but a Collett Riviera 2nd and D127 Brake 2nd were used on the last day of the Fairford branch, June 1962. The odd Mk1 was still knocking around the Western into 1964, as indeed were several on the Eastern. In fact, blood & custard really started to disappear as soon as the paintshop foremen received a directive to paint all future coaches BR lined maroon in 1956. Slowly at first as is to be expected. Colour albums are a good indication as to percentages of blood & custard to maroon stock in train formations. Still plenty in 1957 and 1958 but far fewer in 1959. Then as the 1920-s built coaches fell due for withdrawal, blood and custard disappeared far more rapidly until by 1963 it was a case of "Ooh look, a blood & custard". I imagine the livery went from Southern Region stock far more quickly and seemed to last longest on the London Midland Region. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 If the Nelson is announced I hope and will be waiting for a schools with a Nelson tender. That would be very pretty I hope they do Sir Martin Frobisher in early BR Apple green. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 In fact, blood & custard really started to disappear as soon as the paintshop foremen received a directive to paint all future coaches BR lined maroon in 1956. Slowly at first as is to be expected. Colour albums are a good indication as to percentages of blood & custard to maroon stock in train formations. Still plenty in 1957 and 1958 but far fewer in 1959. Then as the 1920-s built coaches fell due for withdrawal, blood and custard disappeared far more rapidly until by 1963 it was a case of "Ooh look, a blood & custard". I imagine the livery went from Southern Region stock far more quickly and seemed to last longest on the London Midland Region. Hornby's blood and custard has now become blood and lime! I know because I brought a new Maunsell low window coach last year and the custard does not match my older SK made ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mooresby Posted January 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 5, 2018 in my crystal ball I see 67s in Colas and Pullman livery. Oh, and an HST in the GWR Old Oak Common livery. This might turn out to be more balls than crystal though.... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 You missed, "nothing there for me, another fail Hornby" And not forgetting that long suffering leather friend, the ever faithful but often hard done by: - 'My Wallet'! Not to mention "my bank manager" or "SWMBO" who will be variously pleased or troubled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted January 5, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 5, 2018 (edited) You may have missed the alleged catalogue cover which was pixelated out , but which someone recognised as a picture containing a Lord Nelson. Of course could be a complete red herring......................... Err, well, I suppose so, if you look at it from a certain angle, but I think it's a Nelson myself... Edited January 5, 2018 by adb968008 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
APOLLO Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 So it's five new engineers wagons then !!! Brit15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 5, 2018 (edited) I can't wait for Monday, when we can start guessing or telling Hornby what I want now. OK Next year, As for the Nelson a blue one with half yellow panels coupled to a green one with full yellow panels with the correct headcode to be on a Littlehampton service. Edited January 5, 2018 by Clive Mortimore 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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