Guest jim s-w Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 For a modeller? No problem at all - for a manufacturer it would mean adding material to the tooling. Not so easy. Bachmann 47 with Heljan tanks and bogie sideframes. Cheers Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Stafford Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 For original build 47/0s I'm pretty sure that they've corrected the sideframes in the latest batches but those tanks still annoy me. I might have to order HJ replacements for my 1537. Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Just seen the preproduction shots of 47365 on Kernow's website............... It seems an odd livery , I would like to know what the basis is or whether this is a cock up in the making... Original RFD 3TG, but with revised RFD lettering, logo position, channel tunnel polos and blue roof ? surely not ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Not original 3tg as the line between the two greys is too far down the body side. Looks ok for the RFD interntional livery apart from the upper grey colour being far too light. Hopefully colour corrected on production run... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jim s-w Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Hi Rob I assume you have put 47365 into google or flickr and had a look? Cheers Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 I have and on class47.co.uk there is a shot of her in this livery with very much the dark grey upper sides. I can't say for sure she didn't fade or carry a non std look at some point tho... I've mailed Bach to see if they could correct for production... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Yes, jim, did that and also class 47.co.uk. As matt put it a bit more succinctly - all details right for rfd revised except glaring upper grey band which is far too light. I emailed Bachmann too, and kernow as well as it may grab their attention better from a retailer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon020 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 OK... because I can't upload to the gallery at the moment, I'll post this here. This is the reworking of a Bachmann 47 bogie that I've in work at the moment... making it all look a little more accurate... and yes, I probably am mad! 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted October 6, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 6, 2012 DISASTER!!! Just putting my locos to bed for the night and have just noticed that the windscreens of my 47975 have fogged badly: The other end is fine: As are all the other locos in the collection, just the windscreens in this one loco have gone completely opaque. Now assuming that the driver isn't smoking sixty a day in there, something has gone seriously wrong here. Has anyone else experienced a horror like this and will Bachmann be sufficiently moved to sell me a replacement front windscreen set if I email them the picture? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon020 Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 DISASTER!!! Just putting my locos to bed for the night and have just noticed that the windscreens of my 47975 have fogged badly: The other end is fine: As are all the other locos in the collection, just the windscreens in this one loco have gone completely opaque. Now assuming that the driver isn't smoking sixty a day in there, something has gone seriously wrong here. Has anyone else experienced a horror like this and will Bachmann be sufficiently moved to sell me a replacement front windscreen set if I email them the picture? Hi John, I've replaced (or I'm in the progress of replacing) the windscreens with Laser glaze items on mine. But my loco is the early Domino headcode Blue one... but you're welcome to my original screens if you want them. Just drop me a pm and I'll pop them in the post. Jon 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
43179 Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Has anyone else experienced a horror like this and will Bachmann be sufficiently moved to sell me a replacement front windscreen set if I email them the picture? My Parcels livery 47 did the same - but at both ends it had been in my display cupboard thingy since I bought it - no exposure direct sunlight or anything. Lucky Mr Hanson does some very nice replacement glazing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted October 8, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 8, 2012 For a modeller? No problem at all - for a manufacturer it would mean adding material to the tooling. Not so easy. Cheers Jim Maybe but look how many other diesels Bachmann has had numberous goes at... 37, 40, 45.. yet this only requires the cabs (and cab door window at the same time as it appears to be part of the same tool) to be addressed. Just seen the preproduction shots of 47365 on Kernow's website............... It seems an odd livery , I would like to know what the basis is or whether this is a cock up in the making... Original RFD 3TG, but with revised RFD lettering, logo position, channel tunnel polos and blue roof ? surely not ? Not original 3tg as the line between the two greys is too far down the body side. Looks ok for the RFD interntional livery apart from the upper grey colour being far too light. Hopefully colour corrected on production run... My guess is that Bachmann has made a decision (sensible in my view) to change the livery version of this model to avoid producing the same model and livery as the Rail Exclusive ViTrains version of 47365 that is about to arrive. Whilst Bachmann could have changed the loco number, I presume they want to keep the (Queen's) Diamond Jubilee link through the nameplate. The "wrong" upper bodyside colour has presumably not yet been corrected on the pre-production loco. They probably prefer to show the change of livery style than worry about showing an incorrect colour that most of us would expect them to correct in the production version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Possibly, but if I assume they'll change it, I could make an ass out of u and me .... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the penguin of doom Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 (edited) OK... because I can't upload to the gallery at the moment, I'll post this here. This is the reworking of a Bachmann 47 bogie that I've in work at the moment... making it all look a little more accurate... and yes, I probably am mad! Jon. Looking at this, I think you are mad but my, you're flippin good at it! ;o) DISASTER!!! Just putting my locos to bed for the night and have just noticed that the windscreens of my 47975 have fogged badly: The other end is fine: As are all the other locos in the collection, just the windscreens in this one loco have gone completely opaque. Now assuming that the driver isn't smoking sixty a day in there, something has gone seriously wrong here. Has anyone else experienced a horror like this and will Bachmann be sufficiently moved to sell me a replacement front windscreen set if I email them the picture? John. Keep your head together. It's frustrating when this happens, but there are solutions. Chin up! All. I'm going to have to have a good read of this thread from page one, but I'm hoping that it's one of those where I could mention the numbers of the 5 loco's I intend to model and someone will miraculously come up with all the roof details I'll require for each..... Anyone?..... Cheers. Sean. Edited October 8, 2012 by the penguin of doom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47423 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 All. I'm going to have to have a good read of this thread from page one, but I'm hoping that it's one of those where I could mention the numbers of the 5 loco's I intend to model and someone will miraculously come up with all the roof details I'll require for each..... Anyone?..... Cheers. Sean. Fire away. You could also check the gallery in this excellent website for help too. http://www.class47.co.uk/c47_intro_v2.php 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raffles Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 As Jon said, fire away, we'll have you an answer in no time. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the penguin of doom Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Fire away. You could also check the gallery in this excellent website for help too. http://www.class47.co.uk/c47_intro_v2.php As Jon said, fire away, we'll have you an answer in no time. Ok chaps. My comment was a little tongue in cheek, but since you've offered, the loco's I'll be doing are D1502, D1611, D1622, D1673 and D1962. I'd like to know what sort of condition all were in between 1965 - 1967 and to put a spanner in the works, I have differing body styles, (I can't remember in what ratio - serek and the original roof vents, but in an ideal world, the numbers will match). I did have a brief look at that site you linked to some time ago 47 423 and found it very informative. Since these loco's are in a long queue, I didn't do too much research, but seem to remember one of my chosen quintet had reverse headcode blinds, i.e. Black letters on White background so that will be a must I guess. Anywho, as I said above, my comment was a bit tongue in cheek, so if you can't help in my quest, no worries. Cheers. Sean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raffles Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 (edited) Before I go hunting, this is what comes off the top of the head. As always, the final choice is yours as to how far you go (if it looks right etc...). D1502 has different cantrail grilles to the bodyshells produced. 1500-1509 had a single vertical bar in the centre. The rest of the class has extra bars fitted to their grilles. Boiler-wise, this one had a Spanner MkIII fitted so, it had a round exhaust. D1673 (I think) was air braked from new so would have had Serck louvres from Day 1 (if not, very soon after). Clayton boiler on this one so big square exhaust. D1611 here. Three part grilles and a Spanner boiler (round exhaust). Edited October 8, 2012 by Raffles Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47423 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Ok chaps. My comment was a little tongue in cheek, but since you've offered, the loco's I'll be doing are D1502, D1611, D1622, D1673 and D1962. I'd like to know what sort of condition all were in between 1965 - 1967 and to put a spanner in the works, I have differing body styles, (I can't remember in what ratio - serek and the original roof vents, but in an ideal world, the numbers will match). I did have a brief look at that site you linked to some time ago 47 423 and found it very informative. Since these loco's are in a long queue, I didn't do too much research, but seem to remember one of my chosen quintet had reverse headcode blinds, i.e. Black letters on White background so that will be a must I guess. Anywho, as I said above, my comment was a bit tongue in cheek, so if you can't help in my quest, no worries. Cheers. Sean. I will have a look after my tea for you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47423 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 1502/1611 - Spanner (round hole) (1502 will have had original rad grilles till about 69/70, 1611 had air brakes fitted in 5/70 and will have gained the Serek grilles then) 1622 - Stones (Small exhaust near cab) - still in Br green and has old rad grilles in Feb 71 1673 - Clayton (Large square exhaust0 - will have had Serek quite soon after being built. 1962 - Stones (Small exhaust near cab) - was Serek from new 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the penguin of doom Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Thanks 47423. Looks like I'll have to source another s kits stones boiler port then. If I'm correct, these are the ones moulded on the Lima 47's? Cheers. Sean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
(The) Youth Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Shawplan also do a cl47 boiler port etch, might be of use Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the penguin of doom Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Shawplan also do a cl47 boiler port etch, might be of use Simon Thanks Simon. I did not know this. Cheers. Sean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47423 Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Thanks 47423. Looks like I'll have to source another s kits stones boiler port then. If I'm correct, these are the ones moulded on the Lima 47's? Cheers. Sean. I cant remember ! Its been a while since my Lima 47 has seen the light of day!!Anyway here`s sister 47265 (D1965/47804) showing its boiler port. http://www.class47.co.uk/c47_zoom_v3.php?img=0696020983000 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47423 Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 And here is D1622 in `68. http://www.class47.co.uk/c47_zoom_v3.php?img=1133051076211 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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