RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted January 9, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2013 The early models (can't recall the number) carried this version - try the -800?. Look just look for the sye and two-piece rad shutters on a green one Thats always been the problem with the Bacchy issues Jon! Bacchy have yet to do a Serck fitted GSYP loco - D1500 D1572 and D1744 are all GSYP and all had the original 3 piece fixed grills plus I think the round boiler port D1764 in GFYE had the correct Serck grills but I cant see the boiler port, think its still the round one Which means that AFAIK D1677 is the first one with Serck grills and the square boiler port - but of course is GFYE too Kind regards Phil 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted January 9, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 9, 2013 Thats always been the problem with the Bacchy issues Jon! Bacchy have yet to do a Serck fitted GSYP loco - D1500 D1572 and D1744 are all GSYP and all had the original 3 piece fixed grills plus I think the round boiler port ...and when they do one, please can the SYP be the correct size for once. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon020 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Thats always been the problem with the Bacchy issues Jon! Bacchy have yet to do a Serck fitted GSYP loco - D1500 D1572 and D1744 are all GSYP and all had the original 3 piece fixed grills plus I think the round boiler port D1764 in GFYE had the correct Serck grills but I cant see the boiler port, think its still the round one Which means that AFAIK D1677 is the first one with Serck grills and the square boiler port - but of course is GFYE too Kind regards Phil Thanks for the correction... I'm guessing the bolier ports are an easy "fix"... the rad shutters/gills are less so. I just wish Bach would bring out a blue one with rad shutters and 4-digit train reporting panel; it's taking me a while to convert one to get to this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 thanks Phil, that was a error on my part I did spot it was 54 on the close up and checked on br database but put 64 by mistake. good that they do the correct bodyshell but ill wait until they do it in SYP. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted January 9, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2013 (edited) You are welcome Michael If you can live with a Heljan TubbyDuff their GSYP gives the configuration you seek Phil Edited January 9, 2013 by Phil Bullock Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 (edited) cheers Chaps, Im in no real hurry for one so dont mind waiting.theres just something about that circle vent one I dont like. do hope they do it but. when they will reveal the next liveries, March maybe? shot of the roof the only thing on this shell would be the windscreen rivets which I dont mind too much filing down, unless they can do something about it at their end. Edited January 9, 2013 by Michael Delamar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jim s-w Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Hi Michael Are you comparing the model to the prototype picture? If so the cantrail grills look different styles to me. The prototype looks more like one of the 'generator' style locos Cheers Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon020 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Hi Michael Are you comparing the model to the prototype picture? If so the cantrail grills look different styles to me. The prototype looks more like one of the 'generator' style locos Cheers Jim ... more like one of the first ten "generator" locos.... yes, a good catch that Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted January 10, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2013 Thats a new one on me - bearing in mind the cooler group is at the far end in the prototype shot what do we think is the difference chaps? Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon020 Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Thats a new one on me - bearing in mind the cooler group is at the far end in the prototype shot what do we think is the difference chaps? Phil If you look at this pic of 47414 http://www.class47.co.uk/c47_zoom_v3.php?img=0998050269210, you will see that the grills are each split by two further ribs.... each big grill split into three groups. If you look at this pic of 47401 http://www.class47.co.uk/c47_zoom_v3.php?img=0724050015210 you'll see that those extra ribs aren't there... and each grill isn't split. So on 401 you have 4 grills each split in half; on 414 (411 and subs) you have the same, but each of the half grills is split in three. The Bachmann one is similar to that on 414... so caters for most of the locos. I was quite gutted when this was pointed out to me (by Mike "Enterprisingwestern")... so decided to not change it (how?) and chose one of the 2nd batch rather than first. HTH Jon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed-farms Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Has anyone got a Doncaster Enterprise yet? Surprised we have not seen any pics on here of one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted January 12, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 12, 2013 Has anyone got a Doncaster Enterprise yet? Surprised we have not seen any pics on here of one. There's a separate thread with photos also running a few below this as I post. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted January 12, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 12, 2013 Thats a new one on me - bearing in mind the cooler group is at the far end in the prototype shot what do we think is the difference chaps? Phil Thanks Jon - see what you mean. Assume all locos after 1510 had the additional ribs? Kind regards Phil 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon020 Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Thanks Jon - see what you mean. Assume all locos after 1510 had the additional ribs? Kind regards Phil I've got to be honest... I'm not sure about all of them; so the best option is now that you know what to look for, take a look at photos of your chosen prototype and decide. That's what I had to end up doing anyway. Good luck Jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed-farms Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 There's a separate thread with photos also running a few below this as I post. Thanks Brushman, somehow I totally missed that thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 ive not been on the lookout but this is the first shot I can recall seeing of the type Bachman do with circle roof vent and 3 grills. D1589 Malvern Link 15 4 1966 by phil c ford, on Flickr 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47423 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 How does the battery boxes/water tanks come off on a 47/57. I am wanting to swap a pair of loco`s round to get the correct item on each and assumed they just clipped on. The parts leaflet does show it as just been clipped on but this one is not moving at all. Before i get too rough with it, is there an easy way to get them off. Thanks Jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon020 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 How does the battery boxes/water tanks come off on a 47/57. I am wanting to swap a pair of loco`s round to get the correct item on each and assumed they just clipped on. The parts leaflet does show it as just been clipped on but this one is not moving at all. Before i get too rough with it, is there an easy way to get them off. Thanks Jon Yes, if you just squeeze either side they should start to budge. If you look here and scroll down, you'll see the ones I reworked... and you can see the 4 clips that attach it to the chassis frame - reinforced as I snapped one. HTH Jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47423 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Thanks Jon, some cracking work going on there!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted February 10, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 10, 2013 Thats always been the problem with the Bacchy issues Jon! Bacchy have yet to do a Serck fitted GSYP loco - D1500 D1572 and D1744 are all GSYP and all had the original 3 piece fixed grills plus I think the round boiler port Just out of interest, is the Backy 3 piece fixed grill just an etch over the Serck moulding? Noticed a blue Bachmann on e bay at the moment with roller blind headcode panels and serck grills which is claimed to be an ex 47148 (which was one of the 3 piece models). Which got me wondering.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted February 10, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 10, 2013 Hi there Assume thats this one? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bachmann-class-47-no-47148-BR-blue-/160969085019?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item257a81505b The grilles in question - and therefore the cooler group - are at the far end of the loco in the piccies and are the fixed 3 piece originals -- not Sercks - as released by Bacchy on 47148 so that fits with this being the unadulterated original model. Are part of the body moulding not a seperate fit Kind regards Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted February 11, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 11, 2013 Hi there Assume thats this one? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bachmann-class-47-no-47148-BR-blue-/160969085019?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item257a81505b The grilles in question - and therefore the cooler group - are at the far end of the loco in the piccies and are the fixed 3 piece originals -- not Sercks - as released by Bacchy on 47148 so that fits with this being the unadulterated original model. Are part of the body moulding not a seperate fit Kind regards Phil Hi, No wasn't that one - link attached hopefully: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bachmann-00-Gauge-Class-47-236-Professionally-detailed-and-weathered-/271152025101?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item3f21eb8e0d. I suspect its a GFYE respray although it doesn't say as such. Anyway thanks for info re the 3 piece moulding. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted February 11, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 11, 2013 Think you are right! He has 4 listed from 2 different base models at least deffo not all 47148 as listed. Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kintbury jon Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 I assume this has only just been released. Shouldn't the lower section of 47835 be white and not beige? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bachmann-CLASS-47-BODYSHELL-IN-INTERCITY-SWALLOW-LIVERY-47-47835-WINDSOR-CASTLE-/160982341256?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item257b4b9688 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted February 27, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 27, 2013 I assume this has only just been released. Shouldn't the lower section of 47835 be white and not beige? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bachmann-CLASS-47-BODYSHELL-IN-INTERCITY-SWALLOW-LIVERY-47-47835-WINDSOR-CASTLE-/160982341256?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item257b4b9688 This looks like the body off the Bachmann limited edition it sold through its website a year or so ago (alongside 47975 in Dutch livery) - apparently a retailer limited edition that was not taken up. The lower bodycolour does look too beige but I'm not sure it should be as pure white as the bodyside white band. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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