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All-new Heljan 47 in 00 gauge


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9 minutes ago, GD said:

I did have intensions of buying 47450, 47555 and 47492

 

That's a total of 510 locos, you must be a millionaire!

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2 minutes ago, 'CHARD said:

 

That's a total of 510 locos, you must be a millionaire!

510 locos and not a single 47555....how bizarre!

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I wouldn’t swap my pre new version blue box ones - ima cgually still happy with my 47035 from about 2005 ! That did take hacking around the bodies to change the obvious class 57 bits though , but my more recent one is also good.

 

If I got anymore it’d be the new Bachmann , but have to be well below £200 and the blue ones seem to consistently stay above that 

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6 hours ago, E100 said:

By itself it looks like a good class 47 from any reasonable distance but put a Bachmann 47 there and by comparison there's something not the same when there should be. People will therefore be somewhat inclined to stick with one example going forward and in many cases that will be the Bachmann example.


47s were quite squat, and ironically did look a bit tubby. As soon as I saw a head-on photo of the Heljan offering it looked “pinched” and too tall/thin, and that was without comparing it. 
 

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14 hours ago, Roy Langridge said:


47s were quite squat, and ironically did look a bit tubby. As soon as I saw a head-on photo of the Heljan offering it looked “pinched” and too tall/thin, and that was without comparing it. 
 

Roy

I did preface what I was saying with the below as I know there were some who noticed it straight from the off.

20 hours ago, E100 said:

I think the primary issue for many of us that don't necessary know a 47 inside and out (or even a few who do but can see past the issues) is that a lot already have a recent Bachmann example.

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23 hours ago, GRUNFOS said:

I like mine..........................

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, Albie the plumber said:

Certainly looks good from that angle 👍

 

That looks like the previous Heljan model, not the new one.

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1 hour ago, brushman47544 said:

 

 

That looks like the previous Heljan model, not the new one.

 

Based on the headcode glass geometry alone I'm prepared to bet that IS the first version.

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23 hours ago, dj_crisp said:

A fair review in BRM this month. Hopefully the next model from Heljan (what ever it may be) gets the basics better.

 

I thought so too. Whilst there may possibly be manufacturers that might be somewhat offended by such reviews in press where they pay money for adverts, I'm confident in the long term it pays off and encourages them to do better, as it's constructive feedback (he doesn't just say it's wrong) and gives credit where it's due.

 

Not everything that comes out of manufacturers is gold and I really appreciate that this forum and indeed the fact that BRM isn't afraid to say so to help me make an informed choice.

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You're all correct, tubby duff it is..............

 

 

The bogie side frames are pushed out to match the body width, that makes a difference.

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21 minutes ago, Marcoblanco said:

Mr burkin notes in his express review that the cabs are a separate mould.. perhaps Heljan will correct the cab in next versions and offer replacement..  (?)

They would also need to change the body as well.

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1 hour ago, Marcoblanco said:

Mr burkin notes in his express review that the cabs are a separate mould.. perhaps Heljan will correct the cab in next versions and offer replacement..  (?)

I don’t think they believe anything is wrong with it , so why would they write off any profit doing that .

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10 hours ago, Marcoblanco said:

Mr burkin notes in his express review that the cabs are a separate mould.. perhaps Heljan will correct the cab in next versions and offer replacement..  (?)

I dont think they could swap the cabs, they are tight, and oversprayed.

 

But you can see the joins easy enough.

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compared to the real thing…

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On 06/07/2019 at 09:20, 47606odin said:

the only good news for me is it says the O gauge one is in tooling :D


Hopefully it’ll be  better than the 00. 

Not usually one to whinge. But it looks a bit messy. 

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9 hours ago, adb968008 said:

I dont think they could swap the cabs, they are tight, and oversprayed.

 

But you can see the joins easy enough.

IMG_8851.jpeg

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compared to the real thing…

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It could be the angle admittedly but it looks like the whole bogie could do with moving a few millimetres towards the buffers.

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10 hours ago, adb968008 said:

 

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compared to the real thing…

 

 

 

Perhaps it's the camera lens but that's one hell of an upward curve to the bottom of that cab.  That grey line should be straight.

Has it been forced onto the chassis so that it's warped and fits badly?

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