RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted November 10, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 10, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Butler Henderson said: Apparently Palmerston is to be released later by Peco/Kato It was announced in the November Railway Modeller with the images of the green versions. Edited November 10, 2022 by PaulRhB 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold mcowgill Posted November 10, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 10, 2022 5 hours ago, JaymzHatstand said: Number 4 would require a bit of work, he has a different smokebox handrails and the nameplates are in a different position, being at the front of the tanks rather than central, so there'd be some carving and repainting to do. I suspect there are several other differences, but those are the two big visual ones that I can think of at present! I'm sure someone can provide a little more detail on that. Hope this helps. Cheers J The biggest difference is the shorter cab, several inches were removed from the back half of Palmerston's cab supposedly to allow it to get into the darkest depths of the LNWR exchange yard at Blaenau. Martin 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Posted November 10, 2022 Author Share Posted November 10, 2022 I rather suspect that number 4 will simply appear with a new livery - the tooling required to model it accurately with the reduced cab is probably a bit too much to be expected in a ‘cost vs benefit’ view Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Watto1990 Posted November 10, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 10, 2022 (edited) On 09/11/2022 at 18:47, Butler Henderson said: I emailed Peco re the crankipins and they have put a set of the new ones in the post free of charge. I just wanted to chime in and say that Peco could not have been more helpful on this front. One of the crank pins on my Prince came loose and pinged off into the ether. I emailed Peco that evening and the spare pins were in the post the next morning. They arrived half an hour ago. I’d grabbed some tweezers and a cup of tea and prepared for a fiddly job, but they come attached to a sprue, making it a simple matter of lining up the holes, pressing the pin home, and snapping off the sprue. Less than two minutes and Prince is happily running again. Edited November 10, 2022 by Watto1990 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Of the three I received one was already broken off the sprue and the one I tried broke off the sprue as soon as I tried to use it to align the connecting rod to the coupling rod. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium SR71 Posted January 4, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 4, 2023 I'm about to sin and ask a speculative question for which I apologise in advance... By way of appeasement and visual aid I offer this image. I'd like to have this train exactly as shown. It was only when I got to the FR shop I clocked that Welsh Pony is a large England and currently Peco have produced the small England's. Had they steamed a small England that day I'd be poorer and the FR richer! What are my options/chances? (And yes I said train deliberately to include the carriages). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted January 4, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 4, 2023 14 minutes ago, SR71 said: I'm about to sin and ask a speculative question for which I apologise in advance... By way of appeasement and visual aid I offer this image. I'd like to have this train exactly as shown. It was only when I got to the FR shop I clocked that Welsh Pony is a large England and currently Peco have produced the small England's. Had they steamed a small England that day I'd be poorer and the FR richer! What are my options/chances? (And yes I said train deliberately to include the carriages). There have been hints about Kato doing the Large Englands but no details of whether that’s a separate moulding. The latest is Palmerston, also a Small England, will be offered later this year. The coaches look like 11 & 12 and Fourdees have just done them as 3D print kits. They are done in batches on their eBay shop so it might be worth contacting him to see when the next batch is due. seller: fourdees_limited Photos ©️ Fourdees 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) The Large Englands have an extra 6" of wheelbase and disc type wheels, rather than spoked. The cabs are longer at the back, the doorway more or less in the middle whereas Prince, Princess and Palmerston cab sheets are all shorter aft of the doorway. Of course the current Prince has a noticeably taller cab than the others (since it re-entered service in 1980) with wider doorways. Edited January 4, 2023 by BernardTPM 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted January 4, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, BernardTPM said: The Large Englands have an extra 6" of wheelbase and disc type wheels, rather than spoked. The cabs are longer at the back, the doorway more or less in the middle whereas Prince, Princess and Palmerston cab sheets are all shorter aft of the doorway. There was rumour that they’d do a generic halfway model to cover all at first but fortunately they have gone with a more accurate decision and the fact that at least two more runs are already announced for 2023 with green ones followed later by Palmerston, (Nov 22 RM), suggests the Small version is doing ok so fingers crossed it leads on to another announcement. Edited January 4, 2023 by PaulRhB 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 As the cab is a separate part I wonder if they may do the modern high cabbed Prince at some point. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium SR71 Posted January 6, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 6, 2023 Thanks you the replies. I guess I'll have to keep an eye on forthcoming announcements for a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiesler Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Green England locos have been spotted over in Japan: Buying a second Princess won't create a paradox... will it? 9 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 13 hours ago, Hiesler said: Green England locos have been spotted over in Japan: Buying a second Princess won't create a paradox... will it? Run the green ones on the starboard track and the red ones on the port track? 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1099 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Just ordered mine from AmiAmi in Japan at a price of 13860 JPY = 87 GBP each https://www.amiami.com/eng/detail/?gcode=RAIL-30729 https://www.amiami.com/eng/detail/?gcode=RAIL-30730 Shipping to Switzerland is 15 GBP. Not much more than shipping from Britain. In case I get them before they are avaliable in the UK, I can post some pictures ☺️ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1099 Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Just got my Princess and Prince from Japan. Thanks to a foam inlay in the packaging, the locos arrived savely. Better pictures to come... 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted February 17, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 17, 2023 Kernow reporting the new Englands as being in stock. Roy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium acg5324 Posted February 18, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 18, 2023 In stock at Monk Bar Models in York too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 92912 Posted February 18, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 18, 2023 Picked up a Prince from Trains 4 U in Peterborough today, it's managed quite a few laps of the layout I'm building without losing any crankpins 😃 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Interesting that Japanese New Englanders have N gauge couplings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre Grouping fan Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 On 18/02/2023 at 18:09, woodenhead said: Interesting that Japanese New Englanders have N gauge couplings. My first batch Princess came with both N Gauge and the usual Peco 009 coupler. Can't remember what was fitted on the loco when in the box now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drt7uk Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, Pre Grouping fan said: My first batch Princess came with both N Gauge and the usual Peco 009 coupler. Can't remember what was fitted on the loco when in the box now. I buy a lot of Kato for a n gauge layout I have so see their promotional posters, and this loco has been promoted to Japanese modellers too, so my guess would be the inclusion of an N gauge coupler is so they can use it with n gauge wagons as they have no oo9 stock to run it with? Seems to be popular with modellers who make custom diorama track sections (can't remember the proper term) which is big in Japan Edited February 20, 2023 by drt7uk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRTrainz Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 On 18/02/2023 at 12:09, woodenhead said: Interesting that Japanese New Englanders have N gauge couplings. That's the norm for Japanese HO narrow gauge models from what I've seen, so makes sense that Kato would supply them for the domestic market with those fitted. A set of brass wagons I saw on eBay once are the only Japanese models I can recall seeing that came with with OO9/H0e/HOn30 loop couplings fitted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold CotBob Posted March 15, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 15, 2023 This is a bit of a request for aid from anyone who has fitted a Digitrax DZ126 to their small England. I am having great difficulty in setting the CV's to give smooth running at low speed it judders a lot when run slowly, without a rather annoying ticking sound from the motor. This noise which doesn't change in frequency as speed changes I can get rid of but only at the expense of the slow speed juddering coming back. Any advice on the CV's around back EMF would be really helpful :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Human8984 Posted June 13, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 13, 2023 Has there been any more Updates on the Fairlie? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre Grouping fan Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Human8984 said: Has there been any more Updates on the Fairlie? I haven't seen anything personally but I think it's pretty much dead now Bachmann have released their version 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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