David Stannard Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 48 minutes ago, Dunsignalling said: TBH, I mentally doubled Hatton's predicted price from the word go! John I am pretty much of the same mindset as you, it would be very hard to believe that a model of this type could be sold at a price lower than a standard 4 wheeled wagon made by either Bachmann or Hornby, a price of £35.00 plus would be more believable. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free At Last Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 It was originally priced at more than a standard 4 wheeled wagon from Oxford Rail. Will the price of Oxford Rail wagons double when sold in a Hornby box? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium spamcan61 Posted January 23, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Free At Last said: It was originally priced at more than a standard 4 wheeled wagon from Oxford Rail. Will the price of Oxford Rail wagons double when sold in a Hornby box? This is the 64 thousand dollar question in my opinion, the answer so far has been 'no' judging by the recent batch of Pilchards*, but that may of course change in time, I have no idea what Hornby's strategic plan is for the OR product line in the medium term. * granted they're still in OR boxes... Edited January 23, 2023 by spamcan61 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted January 23, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Free At Last said: It was originally priced at more than a standard 4 wheeled wagon from Oxford Rail. Will the price of Oxford Rail wagons double when sold in a Hornby box? Right now, that's still an if rather than a when. With a new top team in place, and the introduction of TT:120 to muddy the waters, a realignment of Hornby's OO ranges could well be on the agenda, and might be more comprehensive than just subsuming Oxford into the Hornby brand. Notwithstanding that the better Oxford wagons are actually superior to many sold in red boxes, I think Railroad may be considered overdue for some adjustment. An easy way to emphasize such a restructuring might be to keep the stuff that's aimed at the very young as Railroad and reconstitute the rest into a proper "budget" range, possibly under the Oxford Rail brand. John Edited January 23, 2023 by Dunsignalling 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I have taken a chance and already have the crane runner waiting for my GWR conversion of the Oxford. Bygone wagons of Tasmania if anyone else wants one and they deliver to the UK. https://bygone-wagons.com/446779589 Mike Wiltshire 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigherb Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I pre ordered one from Hornby for £23.90 including postage. Not sure where this massive price increase is. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Brit70053 Posted January 23, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 23, 2023 The price on the Hornby adverts I saw was £19.95 . The original Oxford Rail product reference numbers were quoted. Regards, John 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted January 23, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 23, 2023 8 hours ago, Coach bogie said: I have taken a chance and already have the crane runner waiting for my GWR conversion of the Oxford. Bygone wagons of Tasmania if anyone else wants one and they deliver to the UK. https://bygone-wagons.com/446779589 Mike Wiltshire I've stockpiled one of Rapido's SECR 2-plank ballast wagons to make a match truck for my Stewarts Lane crane, though I'm not sure that one will be long enough.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 12 hours ago, bigherb said: I pre ordered one from Hornby for £23.90 including postage. Not sure where this massive price increase is. My pre-order from Rails in Feb 2020 was at £16.50, and they're still listing it at that. Seems to be a bargain compared to the Bachmann Ransomes & Rapier job. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaZagato Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Even given the size difference, definitely. Curious how long it will take the 3D modelers to develop a cab to make a GWR version? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSG Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 8 hours ago, Michael Hodgson said: My pre-order from Rails in Feb 2020 was at £16.50, and they're still listing it at that. Seems to be a bargain compared to the Bachmann Ransomes & Rapier job. It's obviously going to be a lot less complex than the Bachmann crane. But Oxford managed to deliver the rail gun, which is a pretty complicated piece of machinery, at a relatively low price. The venerable Hornby cranes have been around for a while and, while very much of their era (and now downgraded to the Railroad range), are cheap enough. Oxford only need to pitch theirs somewhere in between the Hornby and Bachmann models for it to be good enough for most people. 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted February 17, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 17, 2023 Covered cab aside, has the LNER version got the correct jib for a GWR variant? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnick Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Hummm... no longer listed on the Hornby website. Does that mean it's quietly getting dropped??? Given previous delays (3yrs and counting for my H class) it feels unlikely Hornby will remove it just because they don't have an eta yet? My pre-order is still visible as pending in my orders (first pre-order with Hornby direct to lock in the price, given likely price hikes prior to delivery), and it is still listed as a future release on the Oxford Rail website, so fingers crossed still in development Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted July 25, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 25, 2023 1 hour ago, drnick said: Hummm... no longer listed on the Hornby website. Does that mean it's quietly getting dropped??? Given previous delays (3yrs and counting for my H class) it feels unlikely Hornby will remove it just because they don't have an eta yet? My pre-order is still visible as pending in my orders (first pre-order with Hornby direct to lock in the price, given likely price hikes prior to delivery), and it is still listed as a future release on the Oxford Rail website, so fingers crossed still in development Could equally be that Oxford Rail are about to be liberated from The Empire! 😇 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BlueLightning Posted July 25, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 25, 2023 As a retailer I've heard nothing about the cranes since I got a price list from Oxford with them on last July, usually listing them on the price list means they are close, the fact it's been a year and we've had nothing else does worry me. Gary 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted July 25, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 25, 2023 Going to keep hold of my kit for a while longer I think. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Downer Posted July 25, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 25, 2023 They’re waiting until people have forgotten how low the original asking price was. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Johan DC Posted July 26, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 26, 2023 The J26 seems to be missing as well. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3489gibson Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 On 25/07/2023 at 12:30, drnick said: Hummm... no longer listed on the Hornby website. Does that mean it's quietly getting dropped??? Given previous delays (3yrs and counting for my H class) it feels unlikely Hornby will remove it just because they don't have an eta yet? My pre-order is still visible as pending in my orders (first pre-order with Hornby direct to lock in the price, given likely price hikes prior to delivery), and it is still listed as a future release on the Oxford Rail website, so fingers crossed still in development All preorders on the Hornby site have been cancelled as they no longer stock OR... Had an open wagon and the SR Crane cancelled on me :( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSG Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 35 minutes ago, D3489gibson said: All preorders on the Hornby site have been cancelled as they no longer stock OR... Had an open wagon and the SR Crane cancelled on me :( I wonder if Hornby have changed their mind about bringing the Oxford brand in house, so to speak. The Oxford Diecast website is still being updated with product news, albeit solely vehicles at the moment with nothing recent in the Oxford Rail section. So maybe the OR products that were listed at Hornby will simply shift back to OR. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 Pre orders maybe. Still plenty of stock otherwise. https://uk.Hornby.com/catalogue/collections/oxford-rail-models?langPath=Hornby-uk&filters[mandatory_filter_by][product_collection]=Oxford Rail&filters[mandatory_filter_by][product_brand]=Oxford Rail&page_id=120805&sort_by=8&page=1 I reckon the cranes are probably going to be removed from sale and reposted at a sensible price. Anyone thinking they would be still be £17 is very optimistic. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaZagato Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 Probably for the best, if that's the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted August 3, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) 17 hours ago, Steamport Southport said: Pre orders maybe. Still plenty of stock otherwise. https://uk.Hornby.com/catalogue/collections/oxford-rail-models?langPath=Hornby-uk&filters[mandatory_filter_by][product_collection]=Oxford Rail&filters[mandatory_filter_by][product_brand]=Oxford Rail&page_id=120805&sort_by=8&page=1 I reckon the cranes are probably going to be removed from sale and reposted at a sensible price. Anyone thinking they would be still be £17 is very optimistic. Jason I took that with a large spoonful of salt when they were first announced. Realistically, I expect the price to be around three times that if/when they do eventually materialise. When you only want one of something, the cost is less important, though... John Edited August 4, 2023 by Dunsignalling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Old Bruce Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 17 hours ago, Steamport Southport said: I reckon the cranes are probably going to be removed from sale and reposted at a sensible price. I can live with that! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Downer Posted August 4, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 4, 2023 (edited) This crane is dead. It has fallen off its rails; it has gone to meet its scrapyard. It has ceased to be. Edited August 4, 2023 by Downer 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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