RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted October 10, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 10, 2022 9 hours ago, Ben Dapol said: our model of 7802 will have the white front features Isnt it bare metal rather than white? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamingWales Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Hal Nail said: Isnt it bare metal rather than white? The embellishments I have found are a bit of a mine field as I have been researching them to add to my 7802 from the "other" manufacturer. This photo from 1959 they look to be silver paint, think there is a colour photo on Colour Rail or one of the other photo archive sites At some point shortly after this the paint used changed to white. My layout is set in 1960 and by this point the paint was white Which part of the front end is painted also isn't consistent. It's a bit mix and match from.... Consistent: Buffers Smokebox dart Inconsistent: Smokebox hinges Lamp irons Edge of smokebox number lined out Front coupling and screw link Front coupling only (no screw link) Front of pony truck/guard irons Front face of cab steps I guess it all depends on how accurate you want your model to a time period (like myself) and reference to dated photos is important I don't think you could go wrong though with painted buffers, dart and hinges as a start as these are the most consistent having just flicked through a few books Edited October 10, 2022 by SteamingWales 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted October 10, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) Definitely white paint on 7802 in the picture on This page . Not the top picture on the page … scroll down to the photo at Aberystwyth. Edited October 10, 2022 by Phil Bullock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarryscapes Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 15 hours ago, Hal Nail said: Isnt it bare metal rather than white? No, it's silver or white paint depending on the particular day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamingWales Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 16 minutes ago, Quarryscapes said: No, it's silver or white paint depending on the particular day. White seems to be the more commonly used colour of the two though. Like I said above what was and wasn't painted is also a bit inconsistent. If you were specifically modelling 15th May 1959 then silver would be more appropriate. For most of us though I guess we have picked a certain time frame (for me 1960 +/- a year) so what Dapol end up offering is likely to be accurate at some point in that time frame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted October 11, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 11, 2022 40 minutes ago, SteamingWales said: White seems to be the more commonly used colour of the two though. Like I said above what was and wasn't painted is also a bit inconsistent. If you were specifically modelling 15th May 1959 then silver would be more appropriate. For most of us though I guess we have picked a certain time frame (for me 1960 +/- a year) so what Dapol end up offering is likely to be accurate at some point in that time frame Don't forget that these were unofficial embellishments and what was or wasn't painted with what colour paint depended entirely on the whim (artistic temperament??) of the shed staff who wieded the paint brush and their local boss. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall5 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, Phil Bullock said: Definitely white paint on 7802 in the picture on This page . Not the top picture on the page … scroll down to the photo at Aberystwyth. The white painted buffers, smokebox hinges etc, on 7802 was the work of the Aberystwyth shedmaster Danny Rowlands who, apparently, bought the white paint out of his own pocket. It was locally known as "Danny's Bull" as mentioned upthread. Ray. Edited October 11, 2022 by Marshall5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall5 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 (edited) As a family we spent most of our holidays on the Cambrian section from 1960 to the end of steam and saw most of the Aberystwyth Manors. Days out were often spent at Shrewsbury where one of 89C's 'bulled up' Manors would be seen arriving on the up CCE and departing on the down - and the buffers etc were always white, never silver. I'm sure other sheds may have used silver but I never saw it on one of Danny's Manors. The story of Danny buying his own white paint has been mentioned in several books/periodicals. The photo below shows 7818 at Aber prepared for the up CCE. Ray. Edited October 11, 2022 by Marshall5 added photo 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Dapol Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 On 10/10/2022 at 11:45, tommyliam021 said: Hi Ben is there any chance you know the shedcodes on the the second batch? cheers 7821 - 84E - Tyseley 7822 - 84K - Chester 7817 - 84J - Croes Newydd (Wrexham) 7802 - 89C - Machynlleth As for the painted features on 7802, most photos show white and nearly all of them have different combinations as @SteamingWales mentioned. The buffers and dart are a definite and I quite like the painted hinges as well. The photo I attached was one that I had bookmarked. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89A Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 On 31/08/2022 at 15:49, coeurdelyon said: Hi, As I understand the decoders are expected imminently, then we will start fitting, so should be in the shops towards the end of next month. Thanks, Regards, Richard Still no sign of the sound fitted versions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 1 hour ago, 89A said: Still no sign of the sound fitted versions? No - latest update I had was due between Oct and Dec🤞 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallpaul69 Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 On 13/10/2022 at 12:28, Gopher said: No - latest update I had was due between Oct and Dec🤞 I bet the Accurascale sound fitted versions are available first? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Kaput Posted October 14, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) Accurascale will be using ESU decoders, Dapol currently use Zimo for factory sound. Will be very different lead times and Zimo seem to be having major stock shortages in general lately. Edited October 14, 2022 by Kaput 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markn Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 TMC have a few of these (Torquay, Fringford, Hinton, Lydham & Draycott) in a 24hr sale, with several down to as low as £107. I was waiting to see what the other one was like before I bought, but at that price I think I'll fold. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry 84F Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Evening all, Apologies if I've missed this further back. Has anyone successfully removed a nameplate from one of these? How is it done? Thanks, Henry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIA185 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 On 04/12/2022 at 17:42, Henry 84F said: Evening all, Apologies if I've missed this further back. Has anyone successfully removed a nameplate from one of these? How is it done? Thanks, Henry Yes. I've done it. The nameplate and the splasher front/beading are all in one piece of brass. You need to remove it, cut the nameplate off, clean up and refit the splasher front. Then you fit the new nameplate as you would on any other GWR loco. (CJL). 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted December 11, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 11, 2022 (edited) Fyi ive used Fox nameplates for GWR locos in the past and found they came with nameplate and splasher, with an orange lining transfer. Effect was pretty good. Edited December 11, 2022 by adb968008 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIA185 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 4 hours ago, adb968008 said: Fyi ive used Fox nameplates for GWR locos in the past and found they came with nameplate and splasher, with an orange lining transfer. Effect was pretty good. The Fox plates have the nameplate and the green curved support plate but on the Dapol model the actual splasher front is also part of the nameplate. This picture should show what I mean. (CJL) 1 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted December 16, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 16, 2022 Decent video of Dapol sound fitted examples - looks to be a good sound project on this evidence 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted February 8, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 8, 2023 Just found this piece which I thought was very impressive… https://www.Dapol.co.uk/blogs/news/model-success-for-oo-gauge-dinmore-manor-locomotive £22.5k is an impressive amount to donate 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RMweb Gold Harlequin Posted July 29, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 29, 2023 20 minutes ago, VIA185 said: Great photos! Would you like to post them in the Accurascale Manor thread? https://www.rmweb.co.uk/topic/161894-accurascales-first-steam-locomotive-gwr-collett-78xx-manor-class/?do=findComment&comment=5238143 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted August 16, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 16, 2023 I've just received my, (checks over shoulder and lowers voice), Accurascale Manor. Beautiful. Sadly they are sold out as I think I might want another. Serious question; do I go for a Dapol one? I love my Dapol 63XX and 73XX Moguls, so I'm tempted. Thanks Phil 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B15nac Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 I've not got a accurascale one yet as my Bradley manor has not arrived but the Dapol one in my opinion is superb. From the pictures I've seen the accurascale one has pushed it even further with detail but I still feel the Dapol one is right up there. Mine runs superb. Regards Neil 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted August 16, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 16, 2023 5 hours ago, Mallard60022 said: Serious question; do I go for a Dapol one? Given there are some notable differences - boiler shape, green colour etc. I'd have thought there's a chance you are going to prefer one over the other, and I'd want two of that one, personally. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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