RMweb Gold 46444 Posted December 1, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 1, 2020 I seem to remember a snap by the esteemed photographer B. J Ashworth capturing 1504 hard at work at Bilson Yard in 1963 with a train of Berry Wiggins tanks in tow ready to head towards Whimsey. Then again did I eat too much Lincolnshire Poacher before bed time? Either way I'll be ordering one. Great news from Rapido and like wise with the Hunslet announcement too.. Cheers, Mark 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 The 15xx was surely too heavy for the Forest of Dean? (Or maybe no one cared by 1963.) 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted December 1, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 1, 2020 10 minutes ago, Miss Prism said: The 15xx was surely too heavy for the Forest of Dean? (Or maybe no one cared by 1963.) It surely was, Miss P, but in the intervening years since the closure of all those lines, bridges have been strengthened, track re-laid and new track layout and traffic configurations developed, all of which demand the presence of such motive power. 1 4 1 1 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 It's a good job Rapido didn't announce The Great Bear, otherwise you'd have that trotting around the minerals loop. 2 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted December 1, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 1, 2020 (edited) Here's interesting and at a spiffing price considering all the separate bits which will need to be assembled onto it. Folk should however take care if their WR layout has ground signals because these engines had reputation for demolishing such things. Fortunately (for me) the Newport District had 4 of them for almost all of their working lives there is a published photo (just the one to my knowledge) of one working a main line trip freight so they weren't solely employed on shunting. So it would be nice to have had one of the South Wales running numbers among those announced but relacement etched plates will no doubt be available. They had the excellent advantage of being able to negotiate tight curvature due to their very short wheelbase of only 12' 10" - the shortest wheelbase of any 20th century GWR 0-6-0T except for the small 1361/66 classes. The short wheelbase allowed them to negotiate curves down to 3 chain radius at dead slow speed (and was responsible for one of them going to Southall to take over the work that had been performed by the last GWR inside cylinder saddle tank to remain in service and for which every other engine which had been tried had failed to do the job). So despite their intended role as heavy shunting tanks and their association with Paddington ECS work they could be seen on the mainline working freight trips and they were ideal for tight curvature. So forget the Red Route Availability restriction as it makes them just the sort of engine many a cramped model railway layout needs PS While they were too heavy for the original weight restrictions on the Forest of Dean branches they were permitted between Grange Court, and Rotherwas Jcn via Ross at a maximum speed pf 20mph. Edited December 1, 2020 by The Stationmaster 2 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Torn between the preserved 1501 and the NCB red 1509... decisions, decisions... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted December 1, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 1, 2020 22 minutes ago, Edge said: Torn between the preserved 1501 and the NCB red 1509... decisions, decisions... Plenty of photos on the Warwickshire Railways site of both to whet your appetite. https://www.warwickshirerailways.com/misc/misc_cc012.htm https://www.warwickshirerailways.com/misc/misc_cc021.htm https://www.warwickshirerailways.com/misc/misc_cc011.htm https://www.warwickshirerailways.com/misc/misc_cc104.htm https://www.warwickshirerailways.com/misc/misc_cc013.htm 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 I see Richard F's influence here. At Model Rail we looked very closely at the 15XX after the USA 0-6-0T but went for the J70 instead, mainly because the 15XX was too much like the USA. It's a good choice. (CJL) 10 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted December 1, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 1, 2020 Don't like Panniers........Don't like Panniers......Don't like Panniers.....Don't like Panniers...... 1 1 4 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 20 minutes ago, gwrrob said: Plenty of photos on the Warwickshire Railways site of both to whet your appetite. https://www.warwickshirerailways.com/misc/misc_cc012.htm https://www.warwickshirerailways.com/misc/misc_cc021.htm https://www.warwickshirerailways.com/misc/misc_cc011.htm https://www.warwickshirerailways.com/misc/misc_cc104.htm https://www.warwickshirerailways.com/misc/misc_cc013.htm I notice that one of those captions refer to the loco 'running tender first'. Oops Nontheless, thanks for those 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozzer models Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 1 hour ago, The Stationmaster said: Here's interesting and at a spiffing price considering all the separate bits which will need to be assembled onto it. Folk should however take care if their WR layout has ground signals because these engines had reputation for demolishing such things. Fortunately (for me) the Newport District had 4 of them for almost all of their working lives there is a published photo (just the one to my knowledge) of one working a main line trip freight so they weren't solely employed on shunting. So it would be nice to have had one of the South Wales running numbers among those announced but relacement etched plates will no doubt be available. They had the excellent advantage of being able to negotiate tight curvature due to their very short wheelbase of only 12' 10" - the shortest wheelbase of any 20th century GWR 0-6-0T except for the small 1361/66 classes. The short wheelbase allowed them to negotiate curves down to 3 chain radius at dead slow speed (and was responsible for one of them going to Southall to take over the work that had been performed by the last GWR inside cylinder saddle tank to remain in service and for which every other engine which had been tried had failed to do the job). So despite their intended role as heavy shunting tanks and their association with Paddington ECS work they could be seen on the mainline working freight trips and they were ideal for tight curvature. So forget the Red Route Availability restriction as it makes them just the sort of engine many a cramped model railway layout needs PS While they were too heavy for the original weight restrictions on the Forest of Dean branches they were permitted between Grange Court, and Rotherwas Jcn via Ross at a maximum speed pf 20mph. 247 Developments do the full class in etched plates 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpplumy Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 2 hours ago, NHY 581 said: Don't like Panniers........Don't like Panniers......Don't like Panniers.....Don't like Panniers...... industrial pannier... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozzer models Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 2 hours ago, NHY 581 said: Don't like Panniers........Don't like Panniers......Don't like Panniers.....Don't like Panniers...... NCB 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted December 1, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 1, 2020 41 minutes ago, mozzer models said: NCB Bless you! 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted December 1, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 1, 2020 I don't need a 15xx, on the other hand ay least 3 got to Stafford Road Works and one was snaffled to work a passenger train from Wolverhampton and was photographed at Worcester on a train for Leamington via Stratford. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham456 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 4 hours ago, NHY 581 said: Don't like Panniers........Don't like Panniers......Don't like Panniers.....Don't like Panniers...... If that's the case! why do you have a sheep logo by your name with sticky out pannier type ears then Go On answer that ! 2 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 5 hours ago, Miss Prism said: It's a good job Rapido didn't announce The Great Bear, otherwise you'd have that trotting around the minerals loop. What else would be the purpose of Rule 1? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 I'd been thinking of pulling out of OO when NO PLACE reaches the end of its exhibition life span. However an NCB 15xx renumbered to one of those that didn't reach preservation, plus a 16" Hunslet in the next couple of years has set me thinking again...... Les It will take another year before Bregenbach gets anywhere near finished so I've plenty of time to think.. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
7821 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 9 hours ago, 5050 said: I'm tempted, sorely tempted, really tempted etc. etc...................................... How will it be for conversion to P4 and EM? Plenty of room between the valve gear and crossheads for instance? 1/8" axles? Drop out wheelsets? Warren shepard etched chassis ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted December 2, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 2, 2020 (edited) What's that sound? Oh, it's OK, Rule 1 has gone in the bin... Yes please, I'll be having one of those. Can I (please ) suggest a DC version only? That way, it can be packed with lead to the gunwales. Between the 15" Hunslet and this little beastie, it's been a good week for me. Nice, nice, nice. Edit. Just checked Eric Mountfords book on Caerphilly, and he lists 1504, 6, 7, 8 as having attending the works. It's a bit of a no-brainer now. Cheers, Ian. Edited December 2, 2020 by tomparryharry More research obtained. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stafford Railman Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Want one, not in 2022, but Now!! Love the real thing and often pondered on how well a RTR model would look, 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted December 2, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 2, 2020 16 hours ago, Captain Kernow said: It surely was, Miss P, but in the intervening years since the closure of all those lines, bridges have been strengthened, track re-laid and new track layout and traffic configurations developed, all of which demand the presence of such motive power. Well that's it then. One will be acquired for F.O.D. work. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted December 2, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 2, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, Graham456 said: If that's the case! why do you have a sheep logo by your name with sticky out pannier type ears then Go On answer that ! Really. Edited December 2, 2020 by NHY 581 3 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Blandford1969 Posted December 2, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 2, 2020 Well that gives 2 years to get the Warren Shepherd 7mm kit shrunk to 4mm built ! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clearwater Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, Blandford1969 said: Well that gives 2 years to get the Warren Shepherd 7mm kit shrunk to 4mm built ! My new nu-cast one is glaring balefully me from the workbench next to me.... 2 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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