RMweb Gold Asterix2012 Posted September 27, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 27, 2022 The 9ft-5 point that Martin has mentioned a couple of times sounds interesting. Otherwise an A5 and a three way. This is one of those questions that could end up with a big list 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuffer Davies Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 7 hours ago, Wayne Kinney said: Hi Guys, I've just released the 00-SF 1in7 Single Slip kit: https://www.britishfinescale.com/product-p/finetrax-00-sf-1in7-singleslip.htm Working on the EM Gauge Single Slip kit this afternoon, hopefully have this on the website this evening :) What kits do you guys want to see next? EM 1:6 diamond, single slip and double slip to compliment the EMGS's B6 points and plain track. I think a 1:6 range in OO-FS would also become popular. Regards, Frank 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AW Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 OO gauge A5 and three-way. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted September 27, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 27, 2022 7 hours ago, Nick C said: Having used Wayne's 00-SF kits on my current layout, I wouldn't bother with standard 00 any more (except in fiddleyards perhaps). Most RTR wheels are fine on SF - I just tried a quick test, pushing a rake of three Mainline and two 'made in England' era Hornby wagons went through a B7 quite happily - so unless someone is using Lima or Tri-ang wheels you ought to be fine... (My bold) I built a copper clad based 00-SF B6 and ran an unmodified Lima class 31 through without any problem. I admit I didn't have any Lima wheeled rolling stock so that might be a different story. The depth of the flanges and the back-to-back are obviously key. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium NFWEM57 Posted September 27, 2022 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 27, 2022 (edited) Hi, My planned EM layout requires (bold already satisfied) : Curved Crossovers which will likely need to be hand made but I will see if I can curve a BF 1:7 crossing Double Slip B7 Crossing Pairs B8, C8, C10 from BF as well as D12, G16 and G18 which I will need to hand make Turnouts B6, B7, B8, C9, C10 from BF as well as D10, G14, G16 and G18 which I will need to hand make Catch Points Edited September 27, 2022 by NFWEM57 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted September 27, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 27, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, martin_wynne said: Long curved turnouts actually save space. It means you can build pointwork into the curves at the end of the layout, leaving more space for the station area on the straight. I use a lot of curved points in my storage loops for exactly that reason. 00 B8s with an outer radius of approx 48" and an inner radius of approx 30", length about 9" from crossing nose to switch tips. Edited September 27, 2022 by St Enodoc add gauge 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradfordbuffer Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 Stop messing around with this '00' stuff it will never catch on!😉 14.2mm 3mm scale double slip and diamond would be nice but personaly in reality... prob in short term only would need 2 of each for next ish project but don't let that put you off! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Nick C Posted September 28, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 28, 2022 11 hours ago, NFWEM57 said: Catch Points Catch points would be a 'quick win' as they're basically just the first third of a normal turnout... 2 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dominion Posted September 28, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 28, 2022 (edited) I would vote for a B6 turnout in OO-SF. (or which ever combination of switch length and crossing type would give the smoothest running in a number 6 turnout.) Edited September 28, 2022 by Dominion 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Kinney Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Thanks for all your suggestions, Guys! As it was almost finished, I've just released the 00 Gauge A5 kit: https://www.britishfinescale.com/product-p/finetrax-00-a5.htm Going to do the 00 Gauge B7 Standard Crossover next... 9 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roythebus1 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 On 27/09/2022 at 22:05, Ramblin Rich said: (My bold) I built a copper clad based 00-SF B6 and ran an unmodified Lima class 31 through without any problem. I admit I didn't have any Lima wheeled rolling stock so that might be a different story. The depth of the flanges and the back-to-back are obviously key. There shouldn't be a problem As I may have mentioned on other threads, the MRC's "New Annington" layout built in the late 1970s/early 1980s had the branch track built to 16.2mm gauge by the late Frank Dyer of "Borchester "fame. We had no problems with Lima cheeses cutter wheels except with f/s bullhead rail used elsewhere on the layout the flanges sometimes ran on the sleepers! The branch had a double slip to about 2' radius and that worked perfectly, but them most things Frank built did work perfectly and even looked right. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roythebus1 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 23 minutes ago, Wayne Kinney said: Thanks for all your suggestions, Guys! As it was almost finished, I've just released the 00 Gauge A5 kit: https://www.britishfinescale.com/product-p/finetrax-00-a5.htm Going to do the 00 Gauge B7 Standard Crossover next... What track centres for the crossover?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Kinney Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, roythebus1 said: What track centres for the crossover?? Haha, exactly what I'm reseaching right now as you posted. I have already made a design at 50mm track centres, but this is not prototypical (too far apart)! I would love to hear peoples input on track centres. Remember that exactly scaling down of the 6 foot way doesn't work as that measures from the insides of the running rails, and of course 00 Gauge doesn't use a prototypical track gauge! So it's best to use prototypical 'track centres' and work from there... Edited October 11, 2022 by Wayne Kinney 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted October 11, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, Wayne Kinney said: So it's best to use prototypical 'track centres' and work from there... Agreed. 45mm works for straight track in 4mm scale. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roythebus1 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Yes, I'm aware of all those problems which is why I mentioned it! Then we have the "enlarged" 6 foot to 10 foot in stations to think about... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Kinney Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 I beleive 44.67mm is prototypical... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Harlequin Posted October 11, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 11, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Wayne Kinney said: I beleive 44.67mm is prototypical... Yes... But 45mm is a nice round number that's easier to measure! 😃 Edited October 11, 2022 by Harlequin 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roythebus1 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, Harlequin said: Yes... But 45mm is a nice round number that's easier to measure! 😃 That's what I was thinking. It doesn't work on sharp curves though. :) Especially with Mk3 coaches or GWR 70 footers. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted October 11, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 11, 2022 Just now, roythebus1 said: That's what I was thinking. It doesn't work on sharp curves though. :) Especially with Mk3 coaches or GWR 70 footers. That's right but for Wayne's points in standard configuration on straight track it's the right starting point (pun intended). 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold martin_wynne Posted October 11, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 11, 2022 27 minutes ago, Wayne Kinney said: I believe 44.67mm is prototypical... Hi Wayne, For Standard 00 I suggest the established centres of 51mm (2") to match the Peco bullhead range. Users of that track might want to try Finetrax, and at 51mm centres it would be a drop-in replacement for a Peco crossover. For 00-SF and EM I suggest 44.67mm. It's prototypical and gets more pointwork in a smaller space. Users of those gauges know what they are doing when it comes to curves, and will appreciate stuff being correct to prototype. cheers, Martin. 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyW Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 As Wayne said for OO, a drop in replacement for Peco would be ideal. Tony 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithHC Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 And a new range for TT 120………. Just saying………. Keith 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradfordbuffer Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 2 hours ago, KeithHC said: And a new range for TT 120………. Just saying………. Keith Go on upset peco! And Hornby all at once, Looking at pictures of Hornby tt120 the wheels look nice just right for BF track ...would that be on code 50 rail Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Kinney Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 15 hours ago, KeithHC said: And a new range for TT 120………. Just saying………. Keith 12 hours ago, bradfordbuffer said: Go on upset peco! And Hornby all at once, Looking at pictures of Hornby tt120 the wheels look nice just right for BF track ...would that be on code 50 rail Wow, I've only just seen the announcement! Looking really good! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted October 12, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 12, 2022 20 hours ago, Wayne Kinney said: Haha, exactly what I'm reseaching right now as you posted. I have already made a design at 50mm track centres, but this is not prototypical (too far apart)! I would love to hear peoples input on track centres. Remember that exactly scaling down of the 6 foot way doesn't work as that measures from the insides of the running rails, and of course 00 Gauge doesn't use a prototypical track gauge! So it's best to use prototypical 'track centres' and work from there... It's not too far apart for GWR double track that was relaid on broad gauge spacings. 😉 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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