ATME Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Am I correct in saying there will be a new unrebuilt West Country released soon? Not sure by whom, but assume Hornby? If not, How do I find out which of the previous incarnations are the DCC ready versions so I can purchase a secondhand loco? thanks 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Are you talking about ‘oo’? There’s nothing been announced about a new model in this scale, but any model of the newest Hornby tooling should be DCC ready - depending upon the specific mode you are after they can be picked up for reasonable second hand prices Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium spamcan61 Posted October 25, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 25, 2022 (edited) If you have a specific R number then run a search on the model rail database and it'll say if it's DCC ready or not https://www.modelraildatabase.com/# Edited October 25, 2022 by spamcan61 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATME Posted October 25, 2022 Author Share Posted October 25, 2022 Yes, OO scale. Was sure I had read somewhere about a xmas (or thereabouts) release, but I guess there would be a lot more info about if that was the case! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 If Hornby was planning a new one soon then it would almost certainly be announced in January at the earliest. Might be worth waiting until then unless you are in a hurry. The "recent" Hornby tooling is after all over 15 years old and starting to show its age. Apart from the Platinum Jubilee purple version I think this was the last one they did, and I think it sold out pretty quickly. https://www.hattons.co.uk/337752/hornby_r3618_class_7p6f_rebuilt_battle_of_britain_4_6_2_34050_royal_observer_corps_in_br_gree/stockdetail ` Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATME Posted October 25, 2022 Author Share Posted October 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, spamcan61 said: If you have a specific R number then run a search on the model tsil database and it'll say if it's DCC ready or not https://www.modelraildatabase.com/# Thanks, just what I was looking for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted October 25, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said: If Hornby was planning a new one soon then it would almost certainly be announced in January at the earliest. Might be worth waiting until then unless you are in a hurry. The "recent" Hornby tooling is after all over 15 years old and starting to show its age. Apart from the Platinum Jubilee purple version I think this was the last one they did, and I think it sold out pretty quickly. https://www.hattons.co.uk/337752/hornby_r3618_class_7p6f_rebuilt_battle_of_britain_4_6_2_34050_royal_observer_corps_in_br_gree/stockdetail But the OP specified unrebuilt. 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Spare Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 R30114 34046 Braunton was originally scheduled for 4th quarter release but has been put back to next Summer. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 34 minutes ago, Oldddudders said: But the OP specified unrebuilt. Oops. My point still stands as that also needs a retool and is probably due since nearly all the big 4-6-2 and 4-6-0s have now been retooled or updated. But how can something be unrebuilt? Always was a daft term.... Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted October 26, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 26, 2022 9 hours ago, Steamport Southport said: But how can something be unrebuilt? Always was a daft term.... Indeed. I liked the term I heard from spotters at Wimbledon in 1961 - Flat-top. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PhilH Posted October 26, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 26, 2022 12 hours ago, Steamport Southport said: But how can something be unrebuilt? Always was a daft term.... Jason According to the BBC (they should know…hmmm) the prefix un means not so I guess it is correct terminology…sort of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 3 hours ago, Oldddudders said: Indeed. I liked the term I heard from spotters at Wimbledon in 1961 - Flat-top. C'mon ............. they're Spam Cans ! 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted October 26, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 26, 2022 Original Bulleid and Rebuilt Bulleid surely? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted October 26, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 26, 2022 14 hours ago, Steamport Southport said: Oops. My point still stands as that also needs a retool and is probably due since nearly all the big 4-6-2 and 4-6-0s have now been retooled or updated. But how can something be unrebuilt? Always was a daft term.... Jason 1 hour ago, Wickham Green too said: C'mon ............. they're Spam Cans ! 1 hour ago, MikeParkin65 said: Original Bulleid and Rebuilt Bulleid surely? I wonder how many more decades this debate will persist. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JST Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 I found a second hand R3115 “Exeter” fitted the bill for me. It is DCC ready, is un-rebuilt, and has the articulated rear pony. I strongly dislike the fixed rear pony with flangeless wheels. The fact that I was brought up in Exeter, did my train spotting there and saw this loco there did not, of course, influence my decision at all! 😁😁 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted October 26, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 26, 2022 15 minutes ago, JST said: I strongly dislike the fixed rear pony with flangeless wheels. Each to their own - but although the wheels might look a tad better for having flanges that totally non protypical huge gap in the lower firebox / ashpan area which is needed to make the wheels able to pivot looks even worse. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Johan DC Posted October 26, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 26, 2022 Don't they run with the flanged Wheels on radius 4 and above? My Duchesses and A4's do. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) What always surprises me is the Hornby pricing policy of the current airsmooth W/C and BofB, compared to the far superior in every way, newly tooled Merchant Navy class. I can't see it being too long before someone brings out a new version up to current standards! Edited October 26, 2022 by Black 5 Bear 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PeterStiles Posted October 26, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Black 5 Bear said: I can't see it being too long before someone brings out a new version up to current standards! Given how long Dapol have been working on their "n" gauge version... I *can* see it being Too Long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 4 hours ago, Johan DC said: Don't they run with the flanged Wheels on radius 4 and above? My Duchesses and A4's do. Yes. Mine do. I'm afraid if you want to run massive engines around train set curves then compromises are a must. Either unprototypical pony trucks flailing about like Bobby Charlton's combover* or you need flangeless wheels. IMO the fixed truck is by far the best solution. If you want to change it to something finer ISTR Comet and RT Models do replacement pony trucks for Bulleids. *Change to Donald Trump if you can't remember Sir Bobby Jason 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 4 hours ago, PeterStiles said: Given how long Dapol have been working on their "n" gauge version... I *can* see it being Too Long. Does it have to be Dapol? Low hanging fruit for some new boys on the block - Accurascale, Rapido etc I would have thought! 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted October 27, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 27, 2022 17 hours ago, JST said: I found a second hand R3115 “Exeter” fitted the bill for me. Wasn’t Exeter the one that sold out almost instantly and everyone was going nuts over for whatever reason? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PeterStiles Posted October 27, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 27, 2022 10 hours ago, Black 5 Bear said: Does it have to be Dapol? That's now what I meant. What I meant was "someone else" has been trying to produce one (albeit in N) and it's taken yonks. Seriously long yonks. No one pulls a locomotive out of a hat quickly, plus I strongly suspect if there's a hint that Someone Else is wanting to produce a WC/BoB model Hornby will get in to Fighting Terrier Mode... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Hilux5972 said: Wasn’t Exeter the one that sold out almost instantly and everyone was going nuts over for whatever reason? From memory, that was on the first run. The Exeter WC was seriously short in supply from the Chinese manufacturer, leaving retailers short and customers with unfulfilled pre-orders Because of this, Hornby announced/released a second batch shortly afterwards. Edited October 27, 2022 by Black 5 Bear 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 (edited) 57 minutes ago, PeterStiles said: That's now what I meant. What I meant was "someone else" has been trying to produce one (albeit in N) and it's taken yonks. Seriously long yonks. No one pulls a locomotive out of a hat quickly, plus I strongly suspect if there's a hint that Someone Else is wanting to produce a WC/BoB model Hornby will get in to Fighting Terrier Mode... TBH,neither you nor I know what Hornby is planning. I'd be very surprised if they are about to release a new W/C or BOB as they have two versions of the current model scheduled for Summer release in 2023. It could be that they will scrap these models and produce a "surprise all new loco" for next year in the new model range. Bachmann for example, are one such company, who only announce a loco just before release. Time will tell, but I don't think the wait will be too long before someone picks up the baton! Edited October 27, 2022 by Black 5 Bear 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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