RMweb Premium TheQ Posted April 16, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 16, 2023 (edited) Close.... I don't know but that might be another one in the distance over the tunnel. As for black and Asian people on layouts Remember that even today the combined national total of both minorities is only around about 7%, go back to the days of steam, and that would be less than 1 %, pre war almost unmeasurable nationally. Even today , I can go weeks without seeing either minority in the winter, and only see both in the summer due to them being valued members of my summer sailing club. Edited April 16, 2023 by TheQ 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 33 minutes ago, Jim Martin said: Wasn't Cornbrook on the Manchester tram network originally built as an island platform with no street access? I think it was intended only for interchange between routes. Jim It was but no has an exit as more people live near it now, it was the junction of the Altrincham and Eccles lines, now also for Didsbury and Trafford Centre. The Trafford Centre trams used to turn back at Cornbrook, but sensibly this now takes place in the centre platform at GMEX. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buhar Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Was there passenger access to Trent Junction? Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willie Whizz Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Not by vehicle there wasn’t - and it was a very long walk down grotty lanes to get anywhere. A remarkable place, but not one you’d want to get stranded if you missed your last train … Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold simon b Posted April 16, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 16, 2023 Geoff Marshall made a video on British steel Redcar a few years ago, iirc there was no way to leave the station except by train. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted April 16, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Buhar said: Was there passenger access to Trent Junction? Alan Or Dovey Junction? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSG Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 11 hours ago, Oldddudders said: Or Dovey Junction? No (public) vehicle access, but there's a footpath to the road at Glandyfi. Smallbrook Junction on the Isle of Wight has no external acess at all, not even via a footpath. But that exists solely to provide an interchange between the Island Line (National Rail) and the preserved Isle of Wight Steam Railway, and is a relatively new construction (opened in 1991). Unlike Dovey Junction and Trent Junction, there wasn't a station there at all in pre-Beeching days as there was no real need for an interchange at that point and no nearby settlement. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 13 hours ago, simon b said: Geoff Marshall made a video on British steel Redcar a few years ago, iirc there was no way to leave the station except by train. Similarly, Teeside Airport (or Durham Tees Valley). Just a long walk to the airport and nowhere else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PJT Posted April 17, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 17, 2023 (edited) Surprised no-one's yet mentioned the well-known Riccarton Junction on the Waverley route, where the station together with the community clustered close alongside had no access other than by train. Pete T. Edited April 17, 2023 by PJT Tidied up. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 On 14/04/2023 at 11:39, AY Mod said: ... people in shiny clothes*. * apart from a curious incident with a neighbour. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted April 17, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 17, 2023 Blimey, the Catholic Church has fallen on hard times if they need sponsorship from Michelin. Or is he saying that Ghostbusters didn't fight Mr Staypuft but the holy wotsit? 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phatbob Posted April 17, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 17, 2023 19 hours ago, Jim Martin said: Wasn't Cornbrook on the Manchester tram network originally built as an island platform with no street access? I think it was intended only for interchange between routes. Jim Correct, although there is pedestrian access to Cornbrook Metrolink, it's really for pedestrian egress, i.e. the fire escape! I'm not aware if the fire escape doors can be opened from the outside to get in, so to speak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Padre Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Manulla Jct in western Ireland is a classic of the ‘only rail access’ genre. pic from WikiP 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BachelorBoy Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 (edited) 19 hours ago, TheQ said: As for black and Asian people on layouts Remember that even today the combined national total of both minorities is only around about 7%, go back to the days of steam, and that would be less than 1 %, pre war almost unmeasurable nationally. BR was, in the 1950s and 60s, probably the biggest employer of black people from the Caribbean. https://www.ourmigrationstory.org.uk/oms/london-on-the-move-west-indian-transport-workers EDIT: The NRM website says BR opened a recruitment office in Barbados in 1956. https://www.sciencemuseumgroup.org.uk/blog/asquith-xavier/ Edited April 17, 2023 by BachelorBoy 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSG Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, Irish Padre said: Manulla Jct in western Ireland is a classic of the ‘only rail access’ genre. pic from WikiP If you think it looks bleak in that photo, see the current condition on Google Streetview:https://goo.gl/maps/uDkGGGHawHveKHte9 The main platform has been lengthened, but the shelter has been removed. It can't be a particularly pleasant place to change trains on a wet day in winter. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titanius Anglesmith Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 On 16/04/2023 at 12:27, Peterem said: My pet peeve at exhibitions are stations that have platforms with no obvious passenger access, except presumably over the tracks. Given the frequency show layouts usually operate, a death sentence for any passenger unlucky enough to try. Wickham Bishops on the Great Eastern. Access to the platform from the station building was by crossing the goods siding 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSG Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, Titanius Anglesmith said: Wickham Bishops on the Great Eastern. Access to the platform from the station building was by crossing the goods siding Which, interestingly, has been modelled, and the model is now in the hands of the East Anglian Railway Museum:https://earmnewsletter.blogspot.com/2020/05/wickham-bishops-its-magical-model-layout.html 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 On 16/04/2023 at 06:38, 97406 said: Here you go… I'm amused that they fell it necessary to black out the teeny-tiny 1:87 plastic representations of the bits we all have. I suspect that the other contents of a model railway catalogue are more likely to deprave and corrupt than the miniature nudists 🙂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 97406 Posted April 17, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 17, 2023 24 minutes ago, andyman7 said: I'm amused that they fell it necessary to black out the teeny-tiny 1:87 plastic representations of the bits we all have. I suspect that the other contents of a model railway catalogue are more likely to deprave and corrupt than the miniature nudists 🙂 I did that for added comedy effect on the 'Things that Make You :)' thread. I'll show you the originals for a fee! 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted April 18, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 18, 2023 14 hours ago, Titanius Anglesmith said: Wickham Bishops on the Great Eastern. Access to the platform from the station building was by crossing the goods siding Dovey Junction, only accessible by rail though there is I believe footpath access from Ynyslas Nature Reserve. Access to the single island platform at Treherbert, still a busy terminus but once a very busy end-on junction between the Taff Vale and the R&SB, with a lot of coal traffic passing through, is at ground level, and ungated, across the down main running line, the booking office being separate and on the 'town' side of the railway. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted April 18, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 18, 2023 (edited) On 14/04/2023 at 13:19, Flying Pig said: But buildings almost always have more than the equivalent depth of a sheet of plywood between the ground floor and the crown of the tunnel below Exchange Square, one of the office blocks straddling the tracks at Liverpool Street, is hung from the huge steel arch on its face. I try not to think about it when passing a few cm underneath! Edited April 18, 2023 by Hal Nail 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted April 18, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 18, 2023 On 16/04/2023 at 18:25, TheQ said: Close.... I don't know but that might be another one in the distance over the tunnel. As for black and Asian people on layouts Remember that even today the combined national total of both minorities is only around about 7%, go back to the days of steam, and that would be less than 1 %, pre war almost unmeasurable nationally. Even today , I can go weeks without seeing either minority in the winter, and only see both in the summer due to them being valued members of my summer sailing club. Location, location location! If you were to model some urban areas then Caucasian people would be in a minority! Moreover this is not new - when the Windrush generation came over in the 60s they tended to reside in clumps so to speak (mainly due to racism on the part of property owners) . Anything set in parts of West London from the 1970s for example should have a large Asian contingent while parts of south London would have a large Afro Caribbean makeup in terms of figures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted April 18, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 18, 2023 If we are discussing obscure station access, does Lympstone Commando deserve a mention? 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted April 18, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 18, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, The Johnster said: Access to the single island platform at Treherbert, still a busy terminus but once a very busy end-on junction between the Taff Vale and the R&SB, with a lot of coal traffic passing through, is at ground level, and ungated, across the down main running line Quite interesting to read this and look up a few photos on Google. I've been there a few times without having any inkling as it's been rebuilt as a normal platform. I suspect you were supposed to use the bridge though! Then: and now: https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/4028128 Edited April 18, 2023 by Hal Nail 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted April 18, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 18, 2023 Small layouts that have to have one of every traffic generating feature crammed into an unfeasible track plan and special trains serving each one. A dairy for the milk train. A coal merchant for the coals. A cattle dock for the cows. A clay dries for the clay train. A harbour for the fish Tain. A coal mine or merchant for the coal train. A fuel depot for the tanker train. Etc... Bridges where the supporting beams sit between the abutments not on them. Girder bridges where two beams join mid span and have no form of support. And I'm totally with Andy on the tunnels that have only the thickness of a thin sheet of ply above them upon which sit features that in real life would penetrate into or collapse the tunnel. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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