Willie Whizz Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Flying Pig said: My favourite pub has a railway running through the cellar, but it makes the beer taste funny (that could be the effect of the churchyard next door though). Reminds me of the Thurland Street - Weekday Cross tunnel on the GCLE near Nottingham Victoria, where the navvies “accidentally” tunnelled into it during construction! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinnylinny Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 1 hour ago, BMacdermott said: Island platforms that are so narrow as to give the Health & Safety Executive apoplexy and platform end ramps so steep that they make the north face of the Eiger look easy.🙂 I acknowledge that these are both underground, one in London and one in Glasgow, but... 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted April 14, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Willie Whizz said: Reminds me of the Thurland Street - Weekday Cross tunnel on the GCLE near Nottingham Victoria, where the navvies “accidentally” tunnelled into it during construction! Don't forget the pub near the station that has a canal running through it - Those moorings were very popular, as before the relaxing of licencing laws said barges were "resident" so could drink as long into the night as the landlord permitted 😁 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Nick C Posted April 14, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Flying Pig said: For that matter, town centres sitting on perfectly square plots raised above the surrounding landscape by 20' or so are pretty unusual. Rye comes pretty close - the old town isn't perfectly square, but is roughly 4-sided at least... 2 hours ago, Enterprisingwestern said: or a plastic bodied locomotive with a sodding great electric motor driving it on four foot gauge track. and a 300ft sheer drop just outside the railway fence. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 3 hours ago, AY Mod said: ... seeing a church over a tunnel. I give you Stockport Tiviot Dale 1 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted April 14, 2023 Author Moderators Share Posted April 14, 2023 9 minutes ago, woodenhead said: I give you Stockport Tiviot Dale That's brilliant, it brought its own rock to sit on. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westernviscount Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 In the real world I cannot ever recall the trains being more realistic than the surroundings ;-) ...Or hearing a locomotive at the same volume for a quarter mile and more. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, AY Mod said: That's brilliant, it brought its own rock to sit on. And as a added bonus never have I ever - the four track tunnel Except of course it isn't, it's a four track overbridge and underneath were the end of loop points leading to the twin track single bore tunnel. The bus on the bridge cliche would also fit nicely here too and be perfectly plausible. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dave John Posted April 14, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 14, 2023 True Skinnylinny, and the Glasgow subway does have a rather nice Gilbert Scott church over it. https://gilbertscott.org/st-marys-episcopal-cathedral-great-western-road-glasgow/ As it happens I can see the top half of the spire from my kitchen window, though the church was built 40 years before the subway was tunnelled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSG Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 14 minutes ago, westernviscount said: ...Or hearing a locomotive at the same volume for a quarter mile and more. Being serious for a moment (sorry!), that's one of the reasons why I'm still not really convinced by DCC sound. It works OK in an physically restricted environment, such as a shunting plank, where you could reasonably expect most sounds to carry equally well. But on a big roundy roundy, it doesn't scale to trains at the far end of the line from my vantage point. And the complete absence of a doppler effect is a huge barrier to realism. 3 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BMacdermott Posted April 14, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 14, 2023 Hello Skinnylinny The Angel station (London) has been rebuilt as that platform did give the HSE apoplexy.🙂 My comment was directed at 'wildly narrow' island platforms on 'main line' layouts, where train speeds would be very high. And, adding to the point made my Happy Hippo, my 'gripe' was with exhibition layouts where there has been little or no attention to real detail and the modeller puts - such as - a 2-wagon coal siding off a main line facing point. There are, no doubt, plenty of examples of 'sidings off main line facing points' - Exeter Central carriage sidings being one. Brian 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Skinnylinny said: I acknowledge that these are both underground, one in London and one in Glasgow, but... Probably designed before obesity became a national pastime! 🤣 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold D9020 Nimbus Posted April 14, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 14, 2023 3 hours ago, BMacdermott said: Island platforms that are so narrow as to give the Health & Safety Executive apoplexy and platform end ramps so steep that they make the north face of the Eiger look easy.🙂 You haven’t ever travelled on the Glasgow Subway, have you? Also has 4ft gauge track and is a pure "roundy-roundy". 3 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Flying Pig Posted April 14, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 14, 2023 1 hour ago, woodenhead said: And as a added bonus never have I ever - the four track tunnel Except of course it isn't, it's a four track overbridge and underneath were the end of loop points leading to the twin track single bore tunnel. The bus on the bridge cliche would also fit nicely here too and be perfectly plausible. See - if you put a couple of layers between the tunnel and the building it all looks a lot more believable. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold D9020 Nimbus Posted April 14, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 14, 2023 How about… Coaches with doors that never open. Services to a station where nobody ever boards a train. Ground which has puddles but where it never rains. Passengers who never actually move, even if they appear to be walking or running. Rivers or streams that look wet but which never move. Flat earth, not spherical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted April 14, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 14, 2023 Never mind a church - do I not recall some sort of problem with a supermarket being built over a tunnel? 2 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted April 14, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 14, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, BMacdermott said: Hello Skinnylinny The Angel station (London) has been rebuilt as that platform did give the HSE apoplexy.🙂 My comment was directed at 'wildly narrow' island platforms on 'main line' layouts, where train speeds would be very high. And, adding to the point made my Happy Hippo, my 'gripe' was with exhibition layouts where there has been little or no attention to real detail and the modeller puts - such as - a 2-wagon coal siding off a main line facing point. There are, no doubt, plenty of examples of 'sidings off main line facing points' - Exeter Central carriage sidings being one. Brian Although, in the operational sense, Platform 2 at Central was effectively treated as a terminal road in steam days. The only movements that ran through were goods workings and they used the middle lines. Nothing really ran over the facing points other than when slowly departing from the platform. Down passenger trains were almost universally split, often with part of the formation being placed in the aforementioned sidings, and many also receiving a change of locomotive, before proceeding "downstairs" to St. Davids and beyond. Unlike today, Exmouth branch trains didn't penetrate into (G)WR territory. John Edited April 14, 2023 by Dunsignalling 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted April 14, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 14, 2023 8 minutes ago, D9020 Nimbus said: How about… Coaches with doors that never open. Services to a station where nobody ever boards a train. Ground which has puddles but where it never rains. Passengers who never actually move, even if they appear to be walking or running. Rivers or streams that look wet but which never move. Flat earth, not spherical. Though I have seen quite a few baseboards that do not conform to your final observation. 😁 John 1 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 13 minutes ago, D9020 Nimbus said: How about… Coaches with doors that never open. Services to a station where nobody ever boards a train. Ground which has puddles but where it never rains. Passengers who never actually move, even if they appear to be walking or running. Rivers or streams that look wet but which never move. Flat earth, not spherical. The first time I went to Warley was when I was taken there by my parents aged around eight or nine. I remember seeing an N Gauge layout that had a stream with running water. Name escapes me but I think it was modern image as it had a Voyager and IIRC 66 on it. Miniatur Wunderland in Hamburg also has a large inlet for the Scandinavian section of real water, which the model ships navigate through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrel Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 Cars waiting at level crossings and none of them have drivers or passengers in them. Buses at bus stops and none of them have drivers or passengers. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadLeaves Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 20 minutes ago, Oldddudders said: Never mind a church - do I not recall some sort of problem with a supermarket being built over a tunnel? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrards_Cross_Tunnel 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpendle Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 4 hours ago, BMacdermott said: Hello again Island platforms that are so narrow as to give the Health & Safety Executive apoplexy and platform end ramps so steep that they make the north face of the Eiger look easy.🙂 Brian Salford Crescent has I believe been subject to HSE inspections because of it's narrow platforms. John P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BMacdermott Posted April 14, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 14, 2023 27 minutes ago, Dunsignalling said: Although, in the operational sense, Platform 2 at Central was effectively treated as a terminal road in steam days. The only movements that ran through were goods workings and they used the middle lines. Nothing really ran over the facing points other than when slowly departing from the platform. Hello John Agreed but the point I am making is that the facing points were there for valid operational reasons - not simply such as a randomly positioned 2-wagon coal siding. Brian 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted April 14, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 14, 2023 A coupling that looks like this 4 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derekstuart Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 Terminus stations with 4 or more platforms, each one only capable of taking one locomotive and a couple of coaches. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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