Graham Farish Autumn 2023 announcements

[Roy L S]

Yes, confirmed by Bachmann that the Black Five is still tender driven with 6pin DCC socket in the tender. Unlike the Standard Five, to provide Next 18 and a speaker would require a complete retool with loco drive, and I guess that just isn't cost effective given that the existing tooling isn't that old and the loco is already a pretty decent model.

[PaulCheffus]

22 hours ago, JBM37404 said:

It's kind of odd the TT rush, railtec transfers which I use a lot these days do TT and 3mm but have much out of stock or not produced N gauge range.

Hi

 

Yes I found it strange that something I have been waiting for since about 2016 has appeared in all the other scales including TT/3mm but not N/2mm. Very annoying / frustrating.

 

Cheers

 

Paul

Edited August 4, 2023 by PaulCheffus

[JBM37404]

3 hours ago, PaulCheffus said:

Hi

 

Yes I found it strange that something I have been waiting for since about 2016 has appeared in all the other scales including TT/3mm but not N/2mm. Very annoying / frustrating.

 

Cheers

 

Paul

There is literally thousands of packs for other scales N seems to have 600 odd. Railtec service always been good and I recommend them but I don't see much going on in the TT world to warrant that much product???? Maybe I'm missing something. Back OT seems a decent run by Farish. An RR Mk2 brake would be good as I'm having to respray one otherwise. 

[railtec-models]

On 04/08/2023 at 15:53, JBM37404 said:

There is literally thousands of packs for other scales N seems to have 600 odd. Railtec service always been good and I recommend them but I don't see much going on in the TT world to warrant that much product???? Maybe I'm missing something. Back OT seems a decent run by Farish. An RR Mk2 brake would be good as I'm having to respray one otherwise. 

 

I'll make a very quick diversion from multiple other projects to chip in and provide some insight. It basically bakes down to the quality of print that you want at such small scale. I could have a nice piece of artwork of, let's say, a crest. Looks epic on the screen. Prints pretty beautifully in 7mm and larger scales - although that in itself will depend on whether (a) you have a home desktop printer that will fit under one arm, or state-of-the-art tech that costs the same as a small house, and (b) you know how to manipulate the software so that the physical hardware actually outputs something exquisite (and there are no courses for that - it arises out of tedious and ever evolving tweaking). That crest in 4mm, well, passable for most people but the trained eye would look at it and probably tell you that it's obviously just had the shrink ray put on it and nothing else. That same artwork when printed at 3mm / TT, again, may be passable for some although it won't look anywhere as great as it could/should, as it will most likely resemble a dark blob maybe with a bit of colour, but as modellers of "niche" scales they're perhaps just thankful to have something that sort of looks like what they want. I don't do that. That same crest at 2mm, forget it. It'll look awful. So here's the crux: every time you jump down a scale, I re-engineer the print so that it looks right in the scale in which it is printed. I don't have to do that, but I want to do that because honestly - I want people to get a product where they see it and think "great" rather than "yeah it'll do", and also because I take pride in my craft. That's Railtec. It's easier to jump down incrementally from 4mm to 3mm, and to TT - even though that's a bit of a pain, but to 2mm scale - that is the hardest "commercial" scale in which to get things looking right. Assuming that you want it to look right. Crests are an extreme example but the same is true of simple text. I suppose I could always decimate the TT catalog to a shadow of what it is now if it helped ease the pain! So if you see something, or don't see something, then there's most probably a good reason why, even if it may not be obvious. Let's not forget that the hobby is supported by a great number of very niche specialists with very specific skillsets producing some pretty amazing stuff. All we often see (and care about) is the end product, but there's often a hugely complex and diverse world of ingenuity under the bonnet to bring us that at the quality we expect.

Edited August 7, 2023 by railtec-models

[queensquare]

On 06/08/2023 at 17:05, railtec-models said:

 

I'll make a very quick diversion from multiple other projects to chip in and provide some insight. It basically bakes down to the quality of print that you want at such small scale. I could have a nice piece of artwork of, let's say, a crest. Looks epic on the screen. Prints pretty beautifully in 7mm and larger scales - although that in itself will depend on whether (a) you have a home desktop printer that will fit under one arm, or state-of-the-art tech that costs the same as a small house, and (b) you know how to manipulate the software so that the physical hardware actually outputs something exquisite (and there are no courses for that - it arises out of tedious and ever evolving tweaking). That crest in 4mm, well, passable for most people but the trained eye would look at it and probably tell you that it's obviously just had the shrink ray put on it and nothing else. That same artwork when printed at 3mm / TT, again, may be passable for some although it won't look anywhere as great as it could/should, as it will most likely resemble a dark blob maybe with a bit of colour, but as modellers of "niche" scales they're perhaps just thankful to have something that sort of looks like what they want. I don't do that. That same crest at 2mm, forget it. It'll look awful. So here's the crux: every time you jump down a scale, I re-engineer the print so that it looks right in the scale in which it is printed. I don't have to do that, but I want to do that because honestly - I want people to get a product where they see it and think "great" rather than "yeah it'll do", and also because I take pride in my craft. That's Railtec. It's easier to jump down incrementally from 4mm to 3mm, and to TT - even though that's a bit of a pain, but to 2mm scale - that is the hardest "commercial" scale in which to get things looking right. Assuming that you want it to look right. Crests are an extreme example but the same is true of simple text. I suppose I could always decimate the TT catalog to a shadow of what it is now if it helped ease the pain! So if you see something, or don't see something, then there's most probably a good reason why, even if it may not be obvious. Let's not forget that the hobby is supported by a great number of very niche specialists with very specific skillsets producing some pretty amazing stuff. All we often see (and care about) is the end product, but there's often a hugely complex and diverse world of ingenuity under the bonnet to bring us that at the quality we expect.

 

Nothing to do with the latest Farish annoncments but a link to my post in praise of Railtec. The sheet I refer to contains S&D crests which, whilst not used on the latest loco, are superb. As a hobby we are incredibly lucky to have the likes of Railtec who produce such an enormous range - some of which probably sells in the tens! 

 

Jerry

 

 

[whoppit]

Well wishlist remains a wishlist

RF red stripe class 47 (no problem with 37s they churn out in that scheme)
GW 150 green class 47 (some one must want a Brunel/Churchward/Gooch/Great Western?)
RF red stripe class 31 (no doubt they will release another 37 in that scheme..)
Dutch class 31 (guess what class there is several in dutch..)
class 25/3 (reckon thats gonna be a real long wait..)

Luckily Dapol are ticking a few boxes with their announcements...  😁

[JBM37404]

20 hours ago, whoppit said:

Well wishlist remains a wishlist

RF red stripe class 47 (no problem with 37s they churn out in that scheme)
GW 150 green class 47 (some one must want a Brunel/Churchward/Gooch/Great Western?)
RF red stripe class 31 (no doubt they will release another 37 in that scheme..)
Dutch class 31 (guess what class there is several in dutch..)
class 25/3 (reckon thats gonna be a real long wait..)

Luckily Dapol are ticking a few boxes with their announcements...  😁

 

Still no Mainline 37/4 (The IC stripes not Freight company) Still no white roof FOs glass half full says money saved.....

[Davexoc]

23 hours ago, whoppit said:

GW 150 green class 47 (some one must want a Brunel/Churchward/Gooch/Great Western?)

 

Nope, I've already got one...

 

 

Suppose I could add IKB or GJC to go with GW though

[The Pilotman]

On 10/08/2023 at 21:30, whoppit said:

Well wishlist remains a wishlist

RF red stripe class 47 (no problem with 37s they churn out in that scheme)
GW 150 green class 47 (some one must want a Brunel/Churchward/Gooch/Great Western?)
RF red stripe class 31 (no doubt they will release another 37 in that scheme..)
Dutch class 31 (guess what class there is several in dutch..)
class 25/3 (reckon thats gonna be a real long wait..)

Luckily Dapol are ticking a few boxes with their announcements...  😁

Yes, me! Any of them would be good (although a “Royal Train condition” 484 or 500 would be my choice) but if they did a special box set of all four I’d be up for that too. 

[47475]

On 11/08/2023 at 01:30, whoppit said:

Well wishlist remains a wishlist

RF red stripe class 47 (no problem with 37s they churn out in that scheme)
GW 150 green class 47 (some one must want a Brunel/Churchward/Gooch/Great Western?)
RF red stripe class 31 (no doubt they will release another 37 in that scheme..)
Dutch class 31 (guess what class there is several in dutch..)
class 25/3 (reckon thats gonna be a real long wait..)

Luckily Dapol are ticking a few boxes with their announcements...  😁

 

A Dutch 31 would be hard to resist, as would a Dutch 47.

 

21 hours ago, JBM37404 said:

 

Still no Mainline 37/4 (The IC stripes not Freight company) Still no white roof FOs glass half full says money saved.....

 

I agree. I've been waiting a long time for one of those - and hopefully not 401 in the short-lived 'black numbers' variation. Something more representative would be great.

 

I've been researching the InterCity charter rakes today, so they are fresh in my mind. Some InterCity white roof MK1s (and MK2A BFK!) wouldn't go amiss and would go rather nicely with a Mainline 37/4.

[John M Upton]

One of the last old tooling Class 37's was an Intercity Mainline one (37431?) so I reckon that would be quite far down the list.  Need more Large Logo 37's though (not the modern DRS ones) as 37407 sold out very quickly and still gets snapped up for silly prices even now.  An unrefurbished centre head code Large Logo would be preferred and a tooling is desperately needed for cut buffer beams split box with doors still in place, an odd omission from the tooling suite.

[Davexoc]

14 hours ago, The Pilotman said:

Yes, me! Any of them would be good (although a “Royal Train condition” 484 or 500 would be my choice) but if they did a special box set of all four I’d be up for that too. 

 

I'd go for 500 in banger blue in full royal bulled up finish, but surely we need some 47/3s, the non-boiler fitted freight staple on MGR and Freightliners in the earlier days. Them and where are the Stratford grey roof versions that got everywhere? I had to resort to a 47/7 de-conversion to get this one...

 

[JBM37404]

8 hours ago, 47475 said:

 

A Dutch 31 would be hard to resist, as would a Dutch 47.

 

 

I agree. I've been waiting a long time for one of those - and hopefully not 401 in the short-lived 'black numbers' variation. Something more representative would be great.

 

I've been researching the InterCity charter rakes today, so they are fresh in my mind. Some InterCity white roof MK1s (and MK2A BFK!) wouldn't go amiss and would go rather nicely with a Mainline 37/4.

They did a white roof BCK but no FOs or Catering vehicles. The 37401 would be better than nothing mind. The cocktail stick would soon have it renumbered. I'm sitting on a large logo one (37418) which is soon to be dipped to become 37402 in 1993 IC Mainline. Whats the odds as soon as I peel of the last of the masking tape Barwell hey presto one into the announcements.....

[47475]

5 hours ago, JBM37404 said:

They did a white roof BCK but no FOs or Catering vehicles. The 37401 would be better than nothing mind. The cocktail stick would soon have it renumbered. I'm sitting on a large logo one (37418) which is soon to be dipped to become 37402 in 1993 IC Mainline. Whats the odds as soon as I peel of the last of the masking tape Barwell hey presto one into the announcements.....

 

From what I have read, that BCK was converted for staff use and had various interior modifications including bunks, a shower, etc. I purchased one recently for a bargain price. It seemed strange to release that without the matching stock it operated with.

[JBM37404]

38 minutes ago, 47475 said:

 

From what I have read, that BCK was converted for staff use and had various interior modifications including bunks, a shower, etc. I purchased one recently for a bargain price. It seemed strange to release that without the matching stock it operated with.

Same logic as the RR mk2s with no brake. Again I have an NsE one waiting the dip slowly....

[47475]

1 hour ago, JBM37404 said:

Same logic as the RR mk2s with no brake. Again I have an NsE one waiting the dip slowly....

 

One type that has not been covered at all with the MK2As is the BFK. It was common in the Waterloo-Exeter sets to have 2 x BFK back-to-back. Having a BFK would also allow InterCity / InterCity Charter to be done too, as well as various other liveries including Regional Railways and the ScotRail version of RR.

[JBM37404]

1 minute ago, 47475 said:

 

One type that has not been covered at all with the MK2As is the BFK. It was common in the Waterloo-Exeter sets to have 2 x BFK back-to-back. Having a BFK would also allow InterCity / InterCity Charter to be done too, as well as various other liveries including Regional Railways and the ScotRail version of RR.

I'm going to alter the inside to make it a BFK as the Scotrail hauled sets on the Highland Mainline had a vac braked mk2a BFK usually in the consists in 1993.

[5944]

On 13/08/2023 at 06:12, 47475 said:

 

From what I have read, that BCK was converted for staff use and had various interior modifications including bunks, a shower, etc. I purchased one recently for a bargain price. It seemed strange to release that without the matching stock it operated with.

Is it bad form to copy one of your previous posts on the forum?!

 

"2833 and 2834 were AU5 vehicles, converted from BCKs. The first class compartments have single berths in them, the second class compos had a set of bunk beds. The vestibule between the first class and the guards compo had the doors removed and plated over, and a shower installed. The middle toilet also has a CET tank underneath now, the end toilet is a store cupboard."

 

Both still survive - 2833 at Carnforth and 2834 at the Dean Forest Railway. 

 

2833 is an odd choice for Farish to do, when there were several other IC white-roofed BCKs. 21274 at Shildon for example.

[47475]

On 13/08/2023 at 11:27, JBM37404 said:

I'm going to alter the inside to make it a BFK as the Scotrail hauled sets on the Highland Mainline had a vac braked mk2a BFK usually in the consists in 1993.

 

Different roof shell vent arrangement to the BSO as well, I believe.

[JBM37404]

On 14/08/2023 at 16:25, 47475 said:

 

Different roof shell vent arrangement to the BSO as well, I believe.

That's true yes. Not too hard to sort out.

[acourtrail]

The Thompson coaches didn't take long to hit the shops - they are starting to appear brand new on a famous online auction site!

[Roy L S]

4 hours ago, acourtrail said:

The Thompson coaches didn't take long to hit the shops - they are starting to appear brand new on a famous online auction site!

Good, hopefully that means the four maroon ones I have preordered won't be too far away.

 

Roy

[Chris M]

The Bachmann product announcement scheme seems to be working well. They announced a new batch of  Farish Mk1s and these coaches arrived as stated. I am a happy customer who has filled a small gap in my fleet. 

[Ed-farms]

On 11/08/2023 at 18:56, JBM37404 said:

 

Still no Mainline 37/4 (The IC stripes not Freight company) Still no white roof FOs glass half full says money saved.....

 
This is the missing link in 37/4 for me for anyone modelling Scotland west highlands in the 80's or 90's (as I fully intend to do) you need at least one intercity example. Hopefully a future release will see large logo and intercity done 

 

On 10/08/2023 at 22:30, whoppit said:

Well wishlist remains a wishlist

GW 150 green class 47 (some one must want a Brunel/Churchward/Gooch/Great Western?)
 

 

I have a suspicion we will see the GWR 150 47 as sale rep model, most likely  south west area. Other guesses include:-

 

East Midlands, East & Southeast - Anglia 47714 or NSE 47

Scotland & North East - 47465 Trans Pennine Provincial

 

West Midlands, Wales etc. not a clue what they would pick but I could be wrong with any of them
 

[woodenhead]

6 hours ago, Chris M said:

The Bachmann product announcement scheme seems to be working well. They announced a new batch of  Farish Mk1s and these coaches arrived as stated. I am a happy customer who has filled a small gap in my fleet. 

And with the usual 15% discount the prices are under those currently seen on a lot of Ebay items.

 

Quite who would be paying Ebay prices over the new price item at a model shop I don't know, don't people look or don't these Ebay items actually sell (perhaps not).