rapidoandy Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 4 minutes ago, Jammy2305 said: I made some enquiries - Black with red and white lining, which would fit the dark appearance in the photo. Sadly none of the (to be) announced models fit that yet. - James I’d be interested to see where that is recorded. It’s at odds with what we understood for Gamma. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SHMD Posted February 10 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 10 I really like these fireless locos because they can quite "prototypically" run without requiring all that smoke (and steam) - which other "traditional" steam locos require BUT lack in model form! (This will be the only "steam" loco on my otherwise totally "blue Yellow Ends" Diesel layout. For a paper mill siding.) Will there be a sound option? As to which to choose - 5, 6 or 9 for me. Probably 5, the "Bowaters" No.1 one. Kev. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 10 minutes ago, SHMD said: I really like these fireless locos because they can quite "prototypically" run without requiring all that smoke (and steam) - which other "traditional" steam locos require BUT lack in model form! (This will be the only "steam" loco on my otherwise totally "blue Yellow Ends" Diesel layout. For a paper mill siding.) Will there be a sound option? As to which to choose - 5, 6 or 9 for me. Probably 5, the "Bowaters" No.1 one. Kev. Plenty of steam I'm afraid! Jason 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuffed 1 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Phew! Having just acquired a tiny geared motor and Hornby pug chassis parts, I was about to commence scratchbuilding an Imperial Paper Mills fireless for my impending Gravesend West Street layout. It would have joined the various wagon, coach and loco projects overtaken by highly unlikely RTR products! 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SHMD Posted February 10 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 10 19 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said: Plenty of steam I'm afraid! Jason Nippy little things aren't they! Kev. (OK, some noticeable steam when accelerating!) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZRedBaron Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 11 hours ago, The Johnster said: Even my most liberal interpretation of Rule 1 cannot quite sanction a chemical works, oil refinery, or gunpowder works/munitions depot at Cwmdimbath, so I probably will not avail myself of one of these pretty little things, but I strongly approve of anything that increases the biodiversity avaialble. Good choice of prototype as well. a fairly common and widespread industrial with a good period span. Kudos, Rapido! It it runs as well as the 16" Hunslet, the running chassis will be in demand for kitbuilds and work-ups; perhaps it can be made available separately? Now, how about a jackshaft driven inside-framed 4-coupled 1950s diesel... That may be so, but there are other places that a fireless can work; like a paper mill, or a flour mill- indeed, many fireless engines would have worked at factories that produced foodstuffs.. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted February 11 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 11 True, but Cwmdimbath is a South Wales mining village at the top end of its valley, a ‘one road in same road out’ sort of place. There is some industry besides the colliery, but nothing that would justify a loco, never mind a fireless. There is a rail-served electroplating & galvanising factory which uses some unpleasant chemicals, but this doesn’t present a fire or food contamination list. A food processing plant is possible, but it would be a small one, and flour mills are more associated with docks. Paper mill is unlikely as there was a big one two valleys over at Llangwynyd, near Maesteg; AFAIK this was shunted by GW/BR(W) locos from Tondu. The paper mill in Cardiff had a loco, an RSH 0-4-0, but this was a conventional fired loco. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Roland Matthews Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 As Rapido are in Kent, did the team use the loco preserved at Kemsley Down as a source of measurements, No 1 of 1924? Asking as a former SKLR volunteer 😁 and a big fan of the other fireless loco there, 2ft 6" "Unique" of 1924. Pic credit: wikipedia 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted February 11 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 11 Well, didn't see this coming but I can definitely see one on Sheep Dip which has seen more than a bit of speculation about what exactly is produced within the buildings thereabouts. A great bit of news. Rob 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy2305 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 11 hours ago, rapidoandy said: I’d be interested to see where that is recorded. It’s at odds with what we understood for Gamma. It would appear it was conjecture based on the livery Alpha got painted when it arrived at the same works (for which I apologise) What do you have Gamma as carrying? - James 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Neil Posted February 11 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 11 21 hours ago, Captain Kernow said: These were very common place on outrageously improbable light railways in the Mid Wales area. Two a penny, in fact. If only that was how much they will cost... Yes, I thought they would be. :) 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted February 11 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 11 41 minutes ago, Neil said: Yes, I thought they would be. :) Did you also know that Ivan Petersfield photoed a pair of them, double-heading the Pines Express over Masbury Summit. Unfortunately the negatives got ruined when they fell into a vat of home-made chutney that his housekeeper was making... 1 1 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mol_PMB Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Captain Kernow said: Did you also know that Ivan Petersfield photoed a pair of them, double-heading the Pines Express over Masbury Summit. Unfortunately the negatives got ruined when they fell into a vat of home-made chutney that his housekeeper was making... A fireless loco did once haul a Royal Train. I kid you not! Edited February 11 by Mol_PMB picture added 7 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Good Lord! And which one was that ? Any Clues ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mol_PMB Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 4 minutes ago, Caledonian said: Good Lord! And which one was that ? Any Clues ? It can probably be narrowed down to a shortlist. Working at an 'important munition works in the north of England' and in use prior to mid-1918 (the publication date of the article). It's clearly a Barclay 0-6-0, and has dumb buffers and electric lighting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 I'm inclined to wonder, given the obvious scale of the enterprise, whether it is in fact Gretna 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackRat Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Fantastic! Always wanted a fire less loco, ever since I tried to make one from an Airfix Pug driven by an elastic band powering Romford 3 hole disc wheels. It did run……after a fashion 😆 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Neil Posted February 11 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 11 Ahead of the game here .... 11 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted February 11 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 11 1 hour ago, Neil said: Ahead of the game here .... What a lovely looking loco! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted February 11 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 11 1 hour ago, Neil said: Ahead of the game here .... 6 minutes ago, Captain Kernow said: What a lovely looking loco! Lilliput ? R 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapidoandy Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 5 hours ago, Jammy2305 said: It would appear it was conjecture based on the livery Alpha got painted when it arrived at the same works (for which I apologise) What do you have Gamma as carrying? - James Hi James. I dont have the source here but believe Gamma was delivered in blue lined black and yelllow - but with the Colmans bull on the nose. We have used this as the basis of 965002 both physically and the livery. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Neil Posted February 11 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 11 8 minutes ago, NHY 581 said: Lilliput ? R Yes, spot on. They also do a beefier six coupled version. I suppose this demonstrates that there should be a healthy market for a UK fireless loco. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatofludham Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 On 10/02/2024 at 11:12, AY Mod said: The Cream Soda can is top of my list as a local loco that I used to see most days on a rail trip. I can recall the smell of Four Ashes right now just looking at the pic. I remember an A level trip to Croda Four Ashes where the most memorable part of the trip was seeing the fireless loco and me impressing our guide that I knew what it was. Given I failed my A level Chemistry, the rest of the visit wasn't terribly relevant although I remember one of my fellow students describing it as a "different smell round every corner" and the alarm caused when passing one particular mysterious spray our guide referring to the process at that point producing carcinogenic compounds. Turned out the spray was water but not before we all edged away from it. I too could be tempted by the Croda pressure cooker even though Wednesford has no need of one. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Gasbag at Carnforth is my favourite fireless. Why? Because, as a working loco, it was based at Cambridge, and a friend of my best mate bought it for preservation. Now off my head I can't remember if it is the same as the model (I'll look later), but I would buy it. Not in the Gasbag livery mind, but in its workaday livery which I've forgotten! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 3 minutes ago, stewartingram said: Gasbag at Carnforth is my favourite fireless. Why? Because, as a working loco, it was based at Cambridge, and a friend of my best mate bought it for preservation. Now off my head I can't remember if it is the same as the model (I'll look later), but I would buy it. Not in the Gasbag livery mind, but in its workaday livery which I've forgotten! A Sentinel I'm afraid. Now at Ribble Steam Railway. https://ribblesteam.org.uk/exhibits/steam/sentinel-8024-1929-gasbag/ Jason 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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