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Could be interesting if the Loco has a 'broken back' as suggested.............imagine the sinking feeling of seeing that thing crash land !

 

Cranes fascinate me in a way because like gypsies, you never see them arrive or leave afterwards...........they just simply appear / disappear !

 

Hope it's just a case of dented pride and nothing else for the staff involved..........

 

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Dave

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Bet it was one hell of a bang though! Reports from my own grapevine suggest that '012 penetrated the hold decking into the bilge area and due to the extent of damage to the loco, it will be returning to Erie for 'component recovery'

 

As always, this info is subject to confirmation.

 

Dave.

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Bet it was one hell of a bang though! Reports from my own grapevine suggest that '012 penetrated the hold decking into the bilge area and due to the extent of damage to the loco, it will be returning to Erie for 'component recovery'

 

As always, this info is subject to confirmation.

 

Dave.

 

Working only from the information in this thread: If theres a grain cargo beneath the locos (a few locos do not fill a Handymax ship) then the loco cannot have penetrated the bilge.

 

From the above quote: Whilst it may not have damaged the bilge of the vessel, it may have damaged the tween deck (inbeTWEEN the hold cover and floor) which the locos would have been secured to in transit.

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If it had been the Royal Mail, they would have just roughly shoved all the bits into a clear plastic bag, stuck a pre printed 'apologetic' note on it and delivered it anyway!

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Working only from the information in this thread: If theres a grain cargo beneath the locos (a few locos do not fill a Handymax ship) then the loco cannot have penetrated the bilge.

 

From the above quote: Whilst it may not have damaged the bilge of the vessel, it may have damaged the tween deck (inbeTWEEN the hold cover and floor) which the locos would have been secured to in transit.

 

Beluga Endurance is not a Handymax ship, which would be around 28,000 deadweight tons. She was built in China in 2004, and is 9,611 gross tons & 12,714 deadweight tons. The latter is the relevant tonnage as it refers to the actual weight in tons that the ship can carry, less the weight of any fuel, ships stores, spare parts etc. She does not have a tween deck, it would be a very rare modern ship that did have one.

 

The company she is owned by specialises in 'project' cargos and it is unlikely that she would have any other cargo than the Class 70's on board. She has 2 x 120 ton cranes and is specially designed for heavy unit cargo, normally called 'project' cargo, which means that her tank tops, i.e. bottom of the hold, can withstand heavy point loadings such as a locomotive. She is also built to FA Ice Class 1A which is probably why she was used to ship the locos out of Canada in mid winter.

 

If, as is likely, the slings slipped or broke at one end of the locomotive, the kinetic energy generated by one end, and possibly the other, of the locomotive falling 30 feet would be enough to penetrate the tank top, but not enough to put the ship in any danger.

 

On a lighter note, the one thing that is certain is that anyone in the hold at the time would have suffered an involuntary bowel movement . ohmy.gif

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Apologies, I didn't realise it was a specialist vessel, I'll go back to the ashes!

 

Hi Cunnungduck,

 

No need for ashes, in fact please accept my apologies. I wrote the post when I got in last night. I've just re-read it and it doesn't half sound "I know it all". As Bridget Jones would say "Memo to self; don't answer posts after visiting your neighbour and helping him sample the bottle of malt whisky he was given for Christmas."

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It makes me think - have any other locos ever been damaged badly before entering service?

 

I am sure that it will go back and be stripped with all usable parts removed for err... re-use!

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It makes me think - have any other locos ever been damaged badly before entering service?

 

 

One of my Drivers collided a brand new HST set, arriving on its delivery trip from works, with an extremely substantial stopblock (railbuilt but surrounded with built-into it stonework - basically a block of stone and concrete in structural terms) which resulted in the entire set having to be lifted to check for damage and the damage that was found then to be repaired at main works. Nothing scrapped but not a cheap job.

 

 

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Whatever broke, 70012 dropped about 13ft. Has brokwn axles and bent frame. Sounds fatal but no gen yet.

 

Quote from Freightliner engineer who saw it happen.

 

"It's f*@&£d"

 

:O

 

Mick

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It makes me think - have any other locos ever been damaged badly before entering service?

 

One of the bogies of the first 'Leader' was badly damaged while on test at Brighton Works as a result of the works manager ordering that it be thrown into reverse at full speed. The damage was repaired, but it was never the same again and this is one of the main reasons why 'Leader' was initially so unreliable.

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I'm currently (and very slowly) working my way through this thread and the 50+ page thread on WNXX to compile all sighting and workings of the class so far for a fleet history. I wish there was a more detailed record of the early workings of the 37's so I figured I'd start one for 70's from new. Keep posting your gen here and it'll go in the archive.

 

GE's are hell. You wouldn't catch me doing this for GM's.

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If's it's going to be scraped, why ship the whole thing back to Eire? Why not just scrape it over here then send the reusable parts back in a container or 2?

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It makes me think - have any other locos ever been damaged badly before entering service?

 

There's quite a few examples of brand new locos that were lost at sea - the divable Thistlegorm with it's 8Fs are probably the best known example (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jbardo/4232635714/). There was a cracking article in Railway Magazine documenting a lot of wrecks a little while back.

 

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It makes me think - have any other locos ever been damaged badly before entering service?

 

I believe EMD ran a 59 off the end of the London ON test track which delayed it's delivery for a couple of months, have a feeling they pulled the same trick with a 66 as well.

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