Glorious NSE Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Can we assume that the teething problems on these have now been ironed out as I thought they wern't allowed near passenger lines until the breakdowns had stopped? If that was true they wouldn't be able to do much of anything in this country! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted April 28, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 28, 2010 p.s. the original order was for 30 locos. I have seen conflicting reports on this matter. Some say that the order was only for twelve in two batches of six with an option to order more taking the numbers up to thirty but that nothing on those extras had been signed or agreed. Presumably there is a line in the order for the first twelve that Freightliner can take up that offers a nice healthy returning customer discount of some kind. I am wondering how much GE have discounted the selling price on the 70's to get the business and a foothold in the UK/European market? If they can get them to work well (and there are signs that the inevitable teething troubles are now starting to be ironed out) then once the global economy recovers, GE will be in a strong position to sell more across the continent. By the way, anyone know when we can expect to see one of these head down south sometime? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 I have seen conflicting reports on this matter. Some say that the order was only for twelve in two batches of six with an option to order more taking the numbers up to thirty but that nothing on those extras had been signed or agreed. From Freightliner. Date: 26 November 2007 A new beginningFreightliner Group Ltd has placed an order for 30 freight locomotives of a new design From GE. Erie, Pa., U.S.A. (Oct. 7, 2009) - GE Transportation announced today the shipment of the first two of its newest global-class PowerHaul Series freight locomotives to its customer Freightliner Group Ltd in the United Kingdom. The PowerHaul Series locomotive represents GE Transportation's first entry to the U.K. and European marketplace.These two locomotives are the first of a 30-unit order placed in November 2007 by UK-based Freightliner. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidH Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 But the press releases don't prove it beyond doubt, the headline order of 30 is much more striking and newsworthy than "12 ordered with an option for 18 more". The UK government are experts in grandstanding headlines that don't give the full story ... I assume you'd need to go back to the actual contract to find out what really was the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 By the way, anyone know when we can expect to see one of these head down south sometime? Depends on your definition of "Down South" I guess - one has been working Felixstowe-Lawley St (via London) workings pretty regularly over the past months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcazar Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Saw my first one on the Doncaster-Immingham line last week. 70003. Ugly as hell and not making much noise on the flat next to the canal at Godnow Bridge, but got a good pic anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 But the press releases don't prove it beyond doubt, the headline order of 30 is much more striking and newsworthy than "12 ordered with an option for 18 more". I agree. However out of all news reports, quotations and press releases, I don't recall them mentioning an order plus options. All I know is they're supposed to have postponed further (already scheduled) deliveries TFN. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Digital Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 First one down the North Wales coast 70002 on a ballast from Penmaenmawr - ta to Nick for the tip off. Dundas Sidings (Sandycroft) site - 27 April 2010 6L56, Penmaenmawr - Chesterton Junction 70 replaced by a 66/5 at Crewe. I was further up the line at Mostyn John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Williams Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 I still think they're as ugly as sin, but that one does look a bit better weathered John. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clay Country Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 But the press releases don't prove it beyond doubt, the headline order of 30 is much more striking and newsworthy than "12 ordered with an option for 18 more". The UK government are experts in grandstanding headlines that don't give the full story ... I assume you'd need to go back to the actual contract to find out what really was the case. There really is nothing sinister about this story, it is exactly as Freightliner and GE said in their press relases when the contract was signed. This is an order for 30 locomotives. What isn't set in stone is the delivery schedule, and Freightliner intends to take batches of locomotives from GE as and when it needs them. While freight is in the doldrums and surplus sheds are being packed off to Poland, the last thing Freightliner needs is another boatload of 70s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted April 30, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 30, 2010 Looks like 70006 failed this week on S&C. Although reported that there could be TWO Class 70 diagrams on the S&C next week! Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsOatcake Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 Went pop near Haltwhistle between Newcastle and Carlisle on the empties. Dragged to Midland Road by a shed. There will be more trials both north and south of the border for a few weeks. Need to familiarise the Crews at various depots. So it looks like more maybe on the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted May 6, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 6, 2010 Went pop near Haltwhistle between Newcastle and Carlisle on the empties. Dragged to Midland Road by a shed. There will be more trials both north and south of the border for a few weeks. Need to familiarise the Crews at various depots. So it looks like more maybe on the way. More S&C trips including Chalmesrton-Fidlers via Blackburn (and past my back door.........) Seen and heard my first one today - going better than a 66 on a 1in100 greasy rail with 19 HHA in tow. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisis Rail Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 More S&C trips including Chalmesrton-Fidlers via Blackburn (and past my back door.........) Seen and heard my first one today - going better than a 66 on a 1in100 greasy rail with 19 HHA in tow. Cheers, Mick Any times for this diagram Mick? - Bamber Bridge if possible - Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 The ridges onthe light clusters are an anti climb device to prevent the wagons riding up and onto the loco in the event of a collision. However for them to work surely the wagons too must be fitted with anti climb devices? It's not to stop the wagons over-riding, it's to stop a second Class 70 from over-riding when double-heading or crashing head-on at low speed; nothing else is fitted with them at that height. In other words, they're to mitigate the most unlikely of events (one would hope that the ordianry buffers deal with any shunting incidents around depots!). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durranhill Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Hi all, I have just seen (5pm)70002 or 3 parked up in the down side of Kingmoor yard . Stewart . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reevesthecat Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 Hi Stewart saw 70002 heading up through lancaster about 2.30ish yesterday so probably that one you saw cheers mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted May 8, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 8, 2010 Any times for this diagram Mick? - Bamber Bridge if possible - Thanks. You have a PM. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durranhill Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Spotted 70002 in Kingmoor down yard again today at 5.10pm as i was going home , is this a regular working ?? . Off subject now, there was a GBRF 66 on the same road for a few days at the end of last week , don't think i've seen one of those up here B4 . Stewart . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 70008 to 70012 in transit to the UK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted December 21, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 21, 2010 The ship was expected to depart yesterday, so they should be on their way over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Harvey Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Dave That would make a good train for the new layout Dave. Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted December 21, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 21, 2010 interesting dockside shunter http://www.erieshipnews.com/images/Erie10/121910/Loco/DSC_0269.JPG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted December 21, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 21, 2010 Dave That would make a good train for the new layout Dave. Pete Can you do an etch for a 3.5mm/ft class 70 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Harvey Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 I'm sure that I could produce something Dave. Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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