McGomez Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Completely off topic but a near coincidence all the same. 70013 was the number called on the Spanish lottery last Thursday. Lucky for some. Unfortunately not me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
APOLLO Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Allready in Wikipedia 70012 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_70_(diesel) American built locomotive falling off a Chinese built boat during unloading in Wales - You could not make it up !!! Previous poster was correct re Brush & Loughborough - We have no longer any decent manufacturing / design capacity for so many things these days. Let's not go there replied one, no, we will not go there, ever again, unfortunately. This country is so FUBAR, and our whole future is bleaker than bleak. Just why are new 70's being bought and class 66's stored / sent abroad ? - Economics of the madhouse rule the Iron Road these days. Just my thoughts anyway. I'm sure the 70's are technically very good machines, just a shame they are not clad in a stylish & swish Kestrel like shell - then even I would (partly) welcome them. Such is progress. Brit15 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wobblybob Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 That will be some serious repair bill. Regarding our lack of manufacturing skills and capacity, I couldn't agree more. More than centuries ago the economist Adam Smith saw where we were heading when he wrote The Wealth of Nations and observed: To found a great empire for the sole purpose of raising up a people of customers, may at first sight, appear a project fit only for a nation of shopkeepers. It is, however, a project altogether unfit for a nation of shopkeepers, but extremely fit for a nation whose government is influenced by shopkeepers. Government has been malignly influenced by shopkeepers of one sort or another for a very long time: giving buying and selling priority over manufacturing. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tankerman Posted January 9, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2011 Ther is a very nice photo of the Beluga Endurance, carrying a deck cargo, on the Marinetraffic site. Google 'Beluga Endurance' and click on the link to the Marinetraffic site. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stuart A Posted January 9, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2011 Video on youtube of 008 being loaded just before Christmas: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted January 9, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2011 70012 is being returned to the manufacturer for a warranty repair The Beluga Endurance heads for the high seas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted January 9, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 9, 2011 Regarding our lack of manufacturing skills and capacity, I couldn't agree more. More than centuries ago the economist Adam Smith saw where we were heading when he Not on topic but purely from personal experience I have over the past 5 years been very pleasantly surprised by the wealth of maufacturing expertise that I have found in little back street workshops while sourcing parts for the restoration of a horsetram. Last week the group took delivery of 2 assembled wheelsets that were totally manufactured in Yorkshire. These were of a type and design that have, s far as we know, not been manufactured in Britain for over a century. The chilled iron wheels were cast in Huddersfield, the axles forged in Sheffield and the wheelsets machined and assembled in Fetherstone by the same company that is currently repairing Tornado's pistons. Along with family run fabricators, rubber engineers and general engineering I have been very very surprised and delighted by the skills and workmanship that I have found. So it is not all bad news. Jamie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted January 9, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 9, 2011 70012 is being returned to the manufacturer for a warranty repair Unconfirmed reports that there is a bent 70 on a low-loader at Newport Docks earlier today........ Have they dropped another one? Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250BOB Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Unconfirmed reports that there is a bent 70 on a low-loader at Newport Docks earlier today........ Have they dropped another one? Cheers, Mick Apparently those reports are now confirmed....it has left Newport docks on a low loader. Unconfirmed reports are that it is on its way to either LNWR or MR for component recovery..???? Bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Right off topic, but worth pointing out that Flightradar24 doesn't show any radar information at all. All it shows are positions reported via satellite only from those aircraft equipped with certain equipment (not used for air traffic control purposes). Not all airlines use this kit, and many aircraft are not equipped. Also, geographically large areas of Europe have no coverage (no data provided). It's used by companies tracking their planes and for certain air traffic management purposes. At any one time over the UK, it will show anything between only 10 and 50% of all commercial traffic. It's historic too, with an inherent delay of several minutes. Back to the 70's then (locos that is)..... Just had a look Ron very interesting site thanks for putting it up. chris lmsforever Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted January 9, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 9, 2011 Apparently those reports are now confirmed....it has left Newport docks on a low loader. Unconfirmed reports are that it is on its way to either LNWR or MR for component recovery..???? Bob It is definitely bent......... 70's at Newport Docks Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted January 9, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 9, 2011 Apparently those reports are now confirmed....it has left Newport docks on a low loader. Unconfirmed reports are that it is on its way to either LNWR or MR for component recovery..???? Bob On another forum there were reports earlier today that 70012 was dumped on the floor near the other ones. Any update about this wold be welcome especially if it's heading for Leeds Jamie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted January 9, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 9, 2011 Thanks for posting a link to those photo's Mick, it doesn't look quite right does it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted January 9, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2011 Apparently those reports are now confirmed....it has left Newport docks on a low loader. Unconfirmed reports are that it is on its way to either LNWR or MR for component recovery..???? Bob On its way to Midland Road for assessment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WR Tim Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 It is definitely bent......... 70's at Newport Docks Cheers, Mick Website currently unavailable due to being over its quota. You have to go up to the top level to get that information though - the link itself is just giving a 404 message. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_long Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Theres a rather low quality image on fotopic now, you can tell its a little poorly even from the other side of the docks. 70012 with a bad back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixteen 12by 10s Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Dose falling from a crane, and then ending up in that shape, mean that it can now be called a “flying banana†Gary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted January 10, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2011 On its way to Midland Road for assessment. Latest rumour is it's awaiting the return of ship, and will then go back. Other 70s on their way to Stoke Gifford later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ste234 Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Just seen my first class 70 today, I think it was 70002+66XXX in between Middlesbrough and Tees Yard (possibly even heading towards Thornaby), 70002 was at the front, no wagons in tow, just the two Locos, the 70's certainly are ugly, however quite different I suppose. Any one have any idea where this one was going to/coming from? Would be nice to know Ste Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Apparently those reports are now confirmed....it has left Newport docks on a low loader. Unconfirmed reports are that it is on its way to either LNWR or MR for component recovery..???? Bob I don't understand that, surely it'd be better for the manufacturing plant to rip it apart, and the easiest way to transport all of those components back would be in the actual loco, rather than having to individually package them up and put them in containers...? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Welly Posted January 10, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 10, 2011 Dose falling from a crane, and then ending up in that shape, mean that it can now be called a “flying banana†Or shall we call 70012 "Banana Betty"! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted January 10, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2011 I don't understand that, surely it'd be better for the manufacturing plant to rip it apart, and the easiest way to transport all of those components back would be in the actual loco, rather than having to individually package them up and put them in containers...? Read my reply - above Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 66 502 failed at Wilton when allocated the Felixstowe containers. 70 002 and 66 575 worked to Wilton. 66 575 took the train whilst 70 002 hauled the dead 66 502 to Leeds Midland Rd. Saw the pair at Yarm about 15:10. Thanks to all the Teesside enthusiasts who kept me up to date with the info today as I couldn't chase myself. Mike Wiltshire Just seen my first class 70 today, I think it was 70002+66XXX in between Middlesbrough and Tees Yard (possibly even heading towards Thornaby), 70002 was at the front, no wagons in tow, just the two Locos, the 70's certainly are ugly, however quite different I suppose. Any one have any idea where this one was going to/coming from? Would be nice to know Ste Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted January 10, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 10, 2011 I don't understand that, surely it'd be better for the manufacturing plant to rip it apart, and the easiest way to transport all of those components back would be in the actual loco, rather than having to individually package them up and put them in containers...? Having seen Beasts reply about it possibly going back on the ship, I can give a reason why there might be / have been consideration into cutting it up here. Cost of shipping. IF you could put the components into a couple of containers you remove the need for specialist shipping, both on the ocean and between the port and manufacturing location. Is the manufacturing plant set up to rip things apart? If not then why send it there, why not use somewhere that is set up for this task. These are just theoretical observations about what could happen not what is going to happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_long Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Surely the cost of return shipping would be a case for the insurance company working for the shipping company or the Docks company and not the manufacturers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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